Depeche Mode C or D/S& D

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Hey, it's the other remixes that I'm after on that single! ;-) (Did the E6 do that live, I seem to remember hearing about that.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The E6 didn't just do it live, it's their new single.

The Mike Shinoda remix is great though, fuck the other remixes, I mean none of them answered the time honored question, "What if Depeche Mode was actually Linkin Park?"

Allyzay Needs Legs More (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link

it's their new single

Hahaha. That IS useless. Orgy's "Blue Monday" made more sense (ie, none at all).

"What if Depeche Mode was actually Linkin Park?"

The only difference anyway between the two bands are louder guitars and rapping, of a sort. Even the rhyme structures are similar! (Alternate example of said-mega-obvious style of rhyming: Placebo.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

(Best/worst Depeche rhyme -- 'houses'/'trousers')

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

It's the rapping that's really important, though.

Commparing EITHER song to Orgy's Blue Monday is pretty much worth a punch in the face, Ned.

Allyzay Needs Legs More (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Shall I pull an Edward Norton and beat myself up?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

"I'm kicking my own ass!"

Allyzay Needs Legs More (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 05:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe the appropriate move here would be an "Artie Fufkin."

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 05:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyway, here's the actual tracklisting for the fourth disc:

behind the wheel/route 66 (megamix)
dream on - morel's pink noise club mix
master and servant (u.s. black & blue version)
nothing - justin strauss mix
people are people - special edition on-usound remix
little 15 (bogus brothers mix)
freelove - josh wink dub
personal jesus (kazan cathedral mix)
but not tonight - extended remix
but not tonight (margouleff dance mix)
freelove - powder productions remix
slowblow (mad professor mix)
rush - black sun mix

(That last one, I should note, is the semi-legendary never-exactly-released-as-such Coil mix -- Coil themselves offered it up on their site a while back very briefly so it's not rare per se, but it's nice to see it resurface again.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Depeche Mode always seemed to be taken more seriously, and appreciated more deeply, outside of their native country.

I’m old enough to remember their first UK TOTP appearance, yet despite enjoying the odd single on the radio I always found them pretty lightweight, and am continually surprised how substantial their influence has been on so much electronic music - from the Horrorist to Black Strobe who drop 'World In My Eyes' in their ‘Essential Mix’.

stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 10:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Their first two albums were completely different than the stuff they did later. They contained several big UK hits, which meant that the UK audiences always remembered their early stuff, something which most of the audiences outside of UK didn't.

And, for some reason, "Speak & Spell" has never been fully accepted the way, for instance "Dare", "Rio" and "Lexicon Of Love" have, although the former is also another good example of a brilliant lightweight early 80s pop album.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
bt delivered "Devotional" to my hard drive over the weekend. I hadn't seen it in about ten years ... OMG, it's even better than I remember it.

Would it be cruel to say that part of me misses Crazy Heroin Dave? He was such a great showman. The Happy Fun Dave of today is more reserved, is a better singer, and will survive each tour with certainty. Of course, those aren't criticisms.

The key moment, of course, is the instant when the live drums come crashing into "I Feel You". That's the DM equivalent of turning the volume knob from 10 up to the full 11.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link

they peaked with violator " everything since has been patchy.

my fave song is " nothng"

pimpf boy, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 06:57 (nineteen years ago) link

i have no desire for remixes but the singles cds ingles box set was amazing, revealing some rarities.

pimpf boy, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:01 (nineteen years ago) link

"I Feel You" is their most underrated single, I think; it's certainly the only one that captures the same sense of roar-and-swagger as "Never Let Me Down Again".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

FEAR MY "POSTING SOMETHING I'VE ALREADY SAID TO A THREAD" WAYS

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
I finally heard Violator!


It's great!

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

:-) Bless you, my son.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

What did you like most about it, out of curiosity?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Lots of things!

The production's great, it's very much of a piece, also nice to feel some of the brooding goth romantisicm stuff that I like in Superpitcher/Koehncke/Alex Smoke echo back across the decades.

You don't get enough ROCK albums that sound like this.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I only got interested in Depeche in the past couple years, having ignored them for a long time - busy being aggro, but totally loved "It's No Good" in spite of that. The nice part is that I got to hear all their albums at once, and found I liked most of Ultra and Exciter just as much as the 80's stuff. Oh, I see they are playing in DC this fall, I may have to go!

What I like most about Violator is "Policy of Truth," though I couldn't tell you why..

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 18 August 2005 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam, get Ultra!!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 18 August 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Any hard dates on the U.S. tour yet?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 18 August 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam, get Ultra!!

That's for damn sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 August 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Ultra AND Exciter, really. I've relistened to both over the past couple of days just to get myself in the mood again with the new album coming up, and while it's crystal clear that Ultra was a magnificent success, I'm honestly surprised at how some folks underrate Exciter -- in the same way that Tim notes Ultra could easily be Tim Simenon's best album, I might be so bold as to say Exciter is Mark Bell's (I realize the Björk crowd will disagree). From a distance of four years now it's almost like they made a microhouse album of sorts without it being described as such -- the bass lines throughout are amazing and the whole album is incredibly crisp and focused, brisk. At moments of contrast between that and a more 'typical' Depeche sound -- the instrumental/orchestral conclusion on "I Am You" then sliding into a minimal synth ending, say -- the effect is breathtaking.

I used to worry that Alan Wilder's departure would cripple Depeche completely but as brilliant an arranger as he was, switching to a new model of working where each new producer becomes the key collaborator/arranger has resulted in Depeche becoming fresher by default, and based on "Precious" Ben Hillier is going to make it three for three here...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

"I used to worry that Alan Wilder's departure would cripple Depeche completely"

I thought they were dead when he left. Their post-Alan output has been surprisingly decent, but they were still a better band with him in it.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned, do you know anything about Ben Hillier's past stuff?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Ultimately I think that without Alan being around they would never have gotten as far as they did, but now that he's left he's obviously much more content -- Recoil is never going to be anything more than his own private indulgence but he can afford to have it be so -- while the band situation is less fraught. But the whole tension in between Exciter and Playing regarding whether or not Dave would get some songs in this time shows it's hardly completely over, yet clearly it got resolved (and after Paper Monsters I'm quite content to see what he comes up with).

Hillier was most well known to me for producing at least some of the Doves stuff, which given their own previous incarnation at Sub Sub is actually kinda promising as a resume item. He's part of the 140db mob, and here's his resume from that site, I think slightly in need of updating. Elbow, Blur, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, various earlier remix and engineering credits -- bit of a dog's breakfast of a career but if he doesn't seem to have a distinct sound as such he might be a useful foil in general.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Bump cause I wanna.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I need to d/l the Exciter singles, I don't remember how any of them go.

I'm right that none of them are as good as "Precious" though, yeah?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, although "I Feel Loved" is pretty fucking massive.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

The trick with Exciter lies with the album cuts -- "The Sweetest Condition," "When the Body Speaks," "I Am You," "Breathe"...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"When The Body Speaks" is ridiculously gorgeous.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

And damn, that bassline...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd love to know what posessed Danny Tenaglia to sample "My Secret Garden" for the remix of "I Feel Loved", because it totally makes the track.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

The Thomas Brinkmann remix of that track is also U&K.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
can anyone recommend the re-issues/ remasters? they are releasing them in a weird order aren't they?

am intrigued to know how they sound and how these mini-docus look. the photos inside the '...masses' one are gaaargeous.

piscesboy, Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Same question here.

A pity they haven't included videos in those bonus DVDs. In the Talking Heads remasters, the videos were almost half of the fun.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

(Best/worst Depeche rhyme -- 'houses'/'trousers')

Clearly, that is the best. I really have nothing new or constructive to add here, but this band is still fucking great,

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 6 April 2006 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

saw them monat at wombley arena - awesome, intense and touching.

geordie racer (geordie racer), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

saw them monday at wombley arena - awesome, intense and touching.

geordie racer (geordie racer), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Wombles Arena.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Did we ever do a GORE VOCALS c/d/s&d? And if not... er, does anyone have a list of the songs with gore on lead vocals?

ledge, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Gore songs are always the best Depeche songs

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Did we ever do a GORE VOCALS c/d/s&d?

I think we did, actually. I know Dan wrote up a list of same.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

SEARCH: ALL OF THOSE SONGS
DESTROY: NONE OF THOSE SONGS

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Such a plaintive quality to his voice. Although the Counterfeit stuff was fairly underwhelming - I guess gore voice works best coupled with gore melodies.

ledge, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

You'd think searching for "martin gore" would find the thread. And you'd be right.

OPO Tracks sung by Martin Gore

ledge, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

SEARCH: ALL OF THOSE SONGS
DESTROY: NONE OF THOSE SONGS

Destroy: One Caress

stephen, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link


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