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Yeah true "Messy" is the prototype for this, as is Outlaw Breaks' "Dutty". Also the Lorraine Cato vocal mix of "Pulse X".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

so sure

that wasn't me that was lee, (anythingcanhappen.blogspot.com) who i think was posting under the name tinman. i should have made it more obvious i was quoting.

luke', Tuesday, 13 January 2004 11:01 (twenty years ago) link

gemma fox has a horrible voice tho!

the only other tune ive herad like this (on the independance site) is a bit rubbish too - Get 2 Know- Skepta Feat Chardonnai (thats a good name though). my fear is that the vocalists they are going to get are kinda shit. i like shola ama however, if only i could actually hear that tune with terra danjah!

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link

ambrose i think it's like the first or 2nd track on last week's femme fatale 1xtra set, check it

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:03 (twenty years ago) link

All the 1xtra sets are fucked up at the moment though - click on what you think is Femme Fatale and it'll give you halfway through Rodney P & Skitz or something.

Ambrose the rubbishiness or otherwise of the vocalists is usually a bit moot because they're mostly sped up shrill cyber-divas (this is why I didn't include Gemma Fox or Lorraine Cato first off - the sound has moved on slightly).

Prima explain your Terra Danja hate plz - I don't hear the Hyperdub connection you're making, or if I do surely it applies to Danny Weed, Davinche et. al. as well?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

O.K, I 'spose it's a bit unfair to just tempt you
This is N.A.S.T.Y from 5th Jan '04 on DejaVu. Amazing set featuring Kano, Sharky Major, Ghetto, Stormin, Armour, Hyper, and some geezers called NJ Fever, Bruiser, Hyperfen and Marciephonix (think they're from Dynasty crew, but I'm sure Luka will now what's what). Check out Bruiser, 'Get Meaayyy'. Oh, and the first tune is "So Sure".

tinman, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

The above will download, this one should play directly in RealPlayer.
"I’m a master at work, I ain't talkin’ ‘bout nine to five I'm a master that merks /
Since class I spat words, an’ I won’t ever stop till I drive past in that Merc."

tinman, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

whoops...
this is the correct link:
RealPlayer-N.A.S.T.Y.

tinman, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

right, i've got the 5th jan ruff squad set now, and it'll be on slsk in an hour or two. fantastic stuff as noted above. i've also got the nasty crew set there as an mp3.

luka's right - "armour" is lethal injection. i'm stupid.

tinman - could you msg me next time yr on slsk?! i had a crash and lost my user list.

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 18:36 (twenty years ago) link

All the 1xtra sets are fucked up at the moment though - click on what you think is Femme Fatale and it'll give you halfway through Rodney P & Skitz or something.

I thought something was wrong! Are they on there anywhere then?

If I can get Nicotine client to work for Mac (Tim, have you tried this?), I might finally be up on soulseek soon. I'm desperate to hear all the new stuff.

Fatal Beret (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

(thanks toby!!!)

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

(that's cool cozen. let me know what you think of it. check out hollindagain and the grubbs 12" too if you don't already have them, i love them both.)

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 19:59 (twenty years ago) link

Nordic, "Contagious" was a track on the previous Richie Vibe Vee session whih is how I heard it. Will probably turn up again when they fix up whatever's wrong cos both he and Femme seem to like it quite a bit.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago) link

anyone who doesn't download that brand new nasty set above is crazy.
watch what happens about 8 minutes in, watch that rhythm!

', Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:08 (twenty years ago) link

listen to NOW! what you doing? actually the new MCs are shit mostly but stormin and sharky are smashing it on some old school nasty shit. kano's quite good on it too.

', Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago) link

20 minutes in kano starts killing flirta d terrible terrible terrible referring to how ghetto dashed the mic in his face on stage, ahhhhhhhh! marcus wanted to get flirta into nasty but flirta never wanted to and since then its been beef. flirta d is from west and when he spits he makes funny noises. thats his gimmick. thats the background.

', Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:23 (twenty years ago) link

For Tim and anyone else that cares, the 1Xtra links are all working again now.

the baby from three men and a baby, but all growed up (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:16 (twenty years ago) link

Lee/Tinman I like your blog lots but you should post more!!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago) link

Foulplayification! around this mark:
: Playing 32kbps
: 17:05:10

in the new Femme Fatale set with Kano & Mac 10

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 15 January 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

That set is still playing De La Soul live for me instead of Femme :-(

I notice that Femme and Richie are increasingly parting ways, with Femme playing more and more grime and Richie playing more and more old skool.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:02 (twenty years ago) link

Tim, I've had problems with 1XTRA site in the past
and discovered that messing around with it (repeating, trying all the different (multiple for each DJ) links) sometimes produces breakthrough

except, last week I successfully loaded Femme Fatale, had to stop it, came back to it and got the De La show again - aaaah!

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah I think that's what happened to me! Grr.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

It's still working for me! There's some nice stuff on there too...

the baby from three men and a baby, but all growed up (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

that bit that lukas talking about with kano 20 mins in makes hims sound like mc paul barman!!!!!!!

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 16 January 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

fuck that riddim at 40.00 is amazing!!!!!!!

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 16 January 2004 14:21 (twenty years ago) link

what are good shops in london to buy 12"s from? names and streets, preferably.

also, what are good ukg websites worth checking?

(questions from a friend, he wanted asking).

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:12 (twenty years ago) link

Blackmarket, isn't it?

Rewind mag site is all right. Hyperdub also.

Has anyone heard the j2k thing yet??

East Bay Crackhaus (nordicskilla), Saturday, 17 January 2004 04:47 (twenty years ago) link

tell him rhythm division on roman road.

', Saturday, 17 January 2004 10:39 (twenty years ago) link

the words "grime garage" are in big writing on the front of the daily telegraph this morning!

toby (tsg20), Saturday, 17 January 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link

ta luka.

wht's the article like toby?

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 January 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

i don't know, it was sealed and i wasn't going to buy it to find out. part of a feature on music in 2004 i think so prob not very exciting.

what's this wiley track called "morgue" that i'm waiting to download, then?

toby (tsg20), Saturday, 17 January 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

Grime garage

Spiritual homes: Bow in east London; Croydon; the internet; radio stations broadcast from scary tower blocks.

Musical influences: raving, Playstations, hand-rolled hydroponic cigarettes.

Key accessory: a mean-looking crew of mates.

Anthem: Ground Zero by Wiley.

In the cities and suburbs of the UK, a sound is being created so new that no one yet knows quite what to call it. Young kids with access to cheap and simple music-making software (sometimes even on Playstations) are blending the dancefloor funk of UK garage with the bass-heavy rawness of drum and bass, the spacious rolling syncopations of R&B and dancehall/ragga, and the futuristic gleam of electro.

While more fashion-orientated clubbers are still obsessed with rigid, retrograde 1980s-influenced music, a tight underground network of ravers, producers and distinctively British rappers, linked by websites and pirate radio stations, is rapidly evolving the lithe, "grimy" sound of the future.

Dizzee Rascal is the highest-profile proponent of the new British urban sound, but his ex-colleague in Roll Deep Crew, producer and MC Wiley Kat looks ready to follow his success with an album due in the spring. Two female rappers, Shystie and Lady Sovereign, are also being tipped for success following their joint appearance on The Battle by Medasyn, aka Gabriel Olegovitch – a young producer who has already remixed Christina Aguilera and Lil' Kim. A less MC-centred substrain of the sound is centred around a club night called Forward in central London and – somewhat bizarrely – the suburban sprawl of Croydon. Producers such as Plasticman, Horsepower, Hatcha, Sheffield's Oris Jay and Mancunian Mark One are all knocking out endlessly varying instrumental permutations on what variously has been called "grime garage", "eight bar" or "dubstep" to a small but dedicated cadre of obsessive listeners.

Although most "grime" records have thus far been aimed at DJs only, get ready for this uncompromising, mind-bogglingly inventive UK sound to break into the mainstream in 2004.

Joe Muggs

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 17 January 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

I'm going to a reading tomorrow to find out more about those mean-looking crews in those scary tower blocks...

JoB (JoB), Saturday, 17 January 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

I'm listening to that Morgue track right now, says it's a remix. Just don't ask me to explain what it sounds like.

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 18 January 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link

the verdict on morgue
re record shops
d'arblay st in soho is ok for blackmarket and uptown. i guess its best to head east for rhythm division and independance.
big apple in croydon 37 surrey st.

the j2k heat on the street 12" is ok. worth it for "this is me"

ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 18 January 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

!! i hadn't heard "what" before, but morgue sounds v v similar. i really like both of them.

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:59 (twenty years ago) link

"What must Auberon Waugh be thinking? Well with the greatest respect, who cares ...?"

Barry Davies (robin carmody), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

who saw the dizzie/grime article in entertainment weekly?

juiceboxxx (juiceboxxx), Sunday, 18 January 2004 23:15 (twenty years ago) link

No way is "Ground Zero" an "anthem"!! Or are the pirates really much more serious than I've been led to expect? (I don't really understand the insane "Ground Zero" love - it's good but not as good as "Ice Rink" or "Eskimo" or "Ate All The Pies" or some of the other tracks I've heard from the new album. Mind you I've not heard the vocal version Toby's talking about).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 19 January 2004 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

Just heard that Rephlex are releasing a grime compilation sometime mid-April. Mostly instrumental, more the Plasticman end of stuff than Wiley/NASTY/etc. A positive development? Most of the Plasticman stuff hasn't really grabbed me.

Jason J, Monday, 19 January 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

its a linkl between rephlex and soulja. ie full on dubstep. so positive?er.......it´ll mean that i might persuade more people to go to forward....

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

do i get my cookie for predicting this a month or two ago?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

Chocolate chip or cinnamon?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

chocolate chip, of course

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

haha 'yo! silence'

prima fassy (bob), Monday, 19 January 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

Did anyone ever say whether there is a Lord Of The Decks 2 or not? Are these comps vinyl-only?

the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

Also-any chance of reprinting that ET article? Me is curious.

the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:04 (twenty years ago) link

lotd was cd-only

there was supposed to be a dice recordings comp out too, thuggin ruggin was the lead single i think

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:03 (twenty years ago) link

oh nordic u are so wacky with the names

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:05 (twenty years ago) link


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