he's a scando melodic eunuch manchild with the hots on for jeff lynne, the boy can't help it!Can I steal this for a lyric? It'll never get released - but if it did there'd be a CD and a credit for you in it, M@tt.
― staggerlee, Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:39 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol it's all yours
and also no disrespect geir, glad to see you back on ILM on the real, i love your steez no lie.
― i'm beasting off the riesling (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
When the CD+ first appeared, I had the idea to do a "demo tape+" that would include some old TRS-80 program noise at the end... Never actually released it though.
Pete Shelley did an LP+ in 1982, had a ZX Spectrum program with the lyrics
― someone who is ranked fairly highly in an army of poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
and also no disrespect geir, glad to see you back on ILM on the realHow do we know for sure who the real Geir is?
― Jazzbo, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
toss a JB beat at him and see how he reacts. ;)
― what kinda life is that? (Ioannis), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
How do we know for sure who the real Geir is?
Some ILM'ers have the real Geir as a contact on Facebook, and may have discovered he is this strange guy who writes a lot of incomprehensible status messages in Norwegian ;)
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
... and the cassette version of The Stranglers' Aural Sculpture album included an adventure game, again for the Spectrum.
― Vast Halo, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
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― Bee OK, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i found a mono copy of SPLHCB a while back, and i can say if you haven't heard this you havent properly heard that record. that said, this is kind of pathetic what they're doing to the catalog, imo - the Capitol boxes sounded great and are prolly dirt cheap now
― outdoor_miner, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Just heard the mono Mystery Tour for the first time. "I Am The Walrus" is a pretty different experience!
― Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
THE BRASS, OH MY GOD THE BRASS
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I might have a little cry.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:44 (fourteen years ago) link
The guitar in Fixing A Hole!
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Do you have the actual thing, or has it leaked?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 September 2009 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link
The rain gets in.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Don't tease me, bro
― Cunga, Thursday, 3 September 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
So how's it sound compared to the bootleg vinyl rips (Ebbets, Purple Chick, Fabulous Sound Lab, etc.)?
― Jazzbo, Thursday, 3 September 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I retract my excitement; what I've got is exactly the same as the 87 CDs now I'm A-B'ing them.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Which just goes to show that a; I've not listened to the 87 CDs in a while, and b; they sound better than I remember.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:41 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkI might have a little cry.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:44 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkThe guitar in Fixing A Hole!
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:46 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Hang on, I may have made an elementary mistake called Sound Check.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I now haven't a fucking clue.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the version of Pepper that I've got IS real. Certainly wavelengths are different. But with Sound Check on, the difference on the stereo versions isn't much. I've not got the mono, which people have said is leaps and bounds away.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Never listen to anything at work, turn SoundCheck off, and don't A-B microsections of tracks. Listen to a whole album all the way through.
These are fucking ACE.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Am I an idiot for not knowing what A-B microsections of tracks means?
― nate woolls, Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought you worked in a library xp? No wonder you can't hear them properly.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
rumour has it that the 87 and the 2009 versions of the stereo CDs...are hardly different at all in many of the album's cases.
― piscesx, Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Wait has this leaked?
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I've got hold of 3 - Abbey, Revolver, and Pepper.
It's very weird; I had a listen to Pepper at work on a cheapish pair of AKG (£35) and was really struck straight away. Came home and A-B (flitting directly from one to another) small sections of tracks on my big AKG K601s (£150, and running through all manor of DACs and headphone amps) and the difference was negligible. Then I realised Sound Check was on; turned it off, and the difference jumped back out at me, especially when Im played through a whole album rather than just 10-30 second snippets. So now I'm really intrigued as to wtf Sound Check in iTunes does, and I'm even more eager to get the actual CDs, so I can open them on on speakers, cos I have a sneaking suspicion that the K601s are gonna ring a level of detail and timbre out of the 87 releases that wouldn't be apparent on speakers, but that the new remasters are gonna fucking slay on speakers.
Here's some waveforms;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/Screenshot2009-09-03at192942.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/Screenshot2009-09-03at192606.png
John's vocals and the brass at the end of Got To get You Into My Life, fucking awesome.
The best way to appreciate these is going to be when you realise all of a sudden that tracks you've ignored for years are now amazing - I had that with Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite on the Love release.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Still loads of headroom.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
paul's vocals surely?!
― piscesx, Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Think he's talking about two different tracks there.
― Mark G, Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, September 2, 2009 10:50 AM (Yesterday)
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/profile5/908/55/n566800737_1257.jpg
Geir only shares certain information with everyone.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
omg
― skeletor, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Nick: all SoundCheck does, AFAIK, is a sort of normalisation - clearly the 2009 remasters are much hotter than the 1987 versions, so SC will be bringing the '87 versions up to match. Hard to tell how much of the huge differences you're hearing with SC turned off are simply down to the '09 versions being several dB louder (though, it would seem, not overcompressed).
Normalise both versions in Audacity and then listen. (I assume these are mp3s? No point running frequency analyses then...)
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Nope, it is Paul, I was wrong - just confused by him not sounding like a pussy, I guess.
Double x-post; aye, I was doing some Googling - Sound Check was definitely bringing the 2009 ones down (rather than the 87 ones up, I think). I've done some Googling and can't find anything that seems to say it does anything else, but as far as layers of detail etcetera goes, things were very, very close - I was going off AACs (of the 87s) and MP3s (of the 09s) initially, but the bitrates were high on each, and I wouldn't have thought that alone would make that much difference. I also ripped the 87s as MP3s too, just to be sure (it's those I took the Audacity waveforms from), and again, negligible difference.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Take a close look at the Taxman waveforms; the contours on the lower channel of each one look as if the newer ones are upside down? What does that mean? Can that even be?
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
It's phase reversal - fine if it's happened to both channels (and the left channel on Taxman is fairly loud throughout on the remaster, so it's hard to tell) but will sound different if the right channel has been reversed viz the '87 version and the left hasn't.
That left-channel drum-hit (or whatever it is) about 6sec into Taxman is fairly well squashed in the '09 version, isn't it? Nothing major by the looks of things but some transients have obviously been sacrificed for the greater "good".
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Shouldn't you guys just wait and analyze the uncompressed stuff in like 6 days? It seem like there's no way you can get usable data from this process...
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, I'm just responding to questions here! I'm not even interested in these records! Well, a bit perhaps.
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha it's not like it bothers me. Just seems like anything you learn now will be changed soon.
I'm excited to hear this stuff too, assuming it sounds markedly better. And I believe it will.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link
this forum is now on it's EIGHTEENTH set of 1,000-post threads on the subject of the remasters since they were announced. Just to clarify that is 18,000 seperate posts. EIGHTEEN THOUSAND mind you.
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2
― piscesx, Thursday, 3 September 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
SNAP found 'em. are they labeled "24 bit remaster"?
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 3 September 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link
umm.....nevermind that's something totally different
― Adam Bruneau, Friday, 4 September 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
The Revolver someone culled from Waffles and uploaded, er, somewhere didn't sound that much different from the '87, and I listened to it via decent headphones. I've heard other say these might be fake ala the Loveless "remasters" that made the rounds.
― Cunga, Friday, 4 September 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link
What a fucking awesome rhythm section this band had.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 4 September 2009 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link
If the Revolver I've got is fake then someone's gone to a lot of trouble with that phase-shifting thing.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 4 September 2009 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Within You Without You! Someone counts down in your right ear at about 3.45! The sitars! The strings!
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 4 September 2009 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link
The coda of Rita!
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 4 September 2009 07:12 (fourteen years ago) link
you are a very sick man. don't change.
― what kinda life is that? (Ioannis), Friday, 4 September 2009 07:13 (fourteen years ago) link
OB LA DI OH BLA DA
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 4 September 2009 07:15 (fourteen years ago) link