Not that I really give a toss whether the Beatles ever reach the iTunes Store or not, but can anyone make sense of McCartney's comments quoted here:
So what's been the hold-up all this time? McCartney tells Observer Music Monthly: "We've been keen to do this for a while. I met Guy Hands on a plane once. His crew bought EMI. I refer to them as Terracotta but I believe it's Terra Firma. I said: 'What is the problem? I want to do it, we all want to do it.' And he explained that in the deal that we want, they feel exposed."If [digitised Beatles music] gets out, if one employee decides to take it home and wap it on to the internet, we would have the right to say, 'Now you recompense us for that.' And they're scared of that." We'll see …
"If [digitised Beatles music] gets out, if one employee decides to take it home and wap it on to the internet, we would have the right to say, 'Now you recompense us for that.' And they're scared of that." We'll see …
Does he think the entire Beatles catlogue is somehow not on the internet already? What would this hypothetical employee leak?
― Alba, Monday, 7 September 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
CARNIVAL OF LIGHT!!!
― Mark G, Monday, 7 September 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, but they're talking about the existing catalogue, right?
― Alba, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe McCartney finally ran out of memory.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link
LOL
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Everyone's afraid of telling him that everything the Beatles ever did was on the internet over a decade ago because they don't want him to say "now you recompense us for that". It's like when Grandpa's computer won't work because he has adware all over it, and then you have to tell him that he needs to download some sort of program on there to clean up everything and he's mad because you want to put more stuff on the family computer. So instead of actually telling him the truth you just go see what grandma's doing instead.
― Internet! (Z S), Monday, 7 September 2009 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Only in this case, grandpa's stoned all the time.
― Internet! (Z S), Monday, 7 September 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Actually maybe he doesn't want recompense so he doesn't have to pay his ex any more than necessary.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Good thing we can count on Ringo to come in and make some firm decisions
― Internet! (Z S), Monday, 7 September 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah I had a fantasy the other day that the Beatles did these remasters and set up Beatle-approved torrents to make official digital copies of the albums completely free and they were instantly elevated to Music Gods of the 21st Century by the torrent set. "We have more money than God," Paul McCartney says to the press, "So we thought we'd just give out our entire catalog for free".
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee303/MissBeatles/RIngo10.jpg
― tylerw, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Hahah Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr don't know about MP3s. They can only be content with their hundreds millions of dollars and the knowledge that they were in the biggest band of all time.
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Ringo invents emo.
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link
listened to leaks of sporadic tracks and really wasn't feeling it and then just now I played PPM all the way through and by the time I hit "there's a place" I was like "FUCK". no music in my life has ever meant as much to me as the beatles music, it has been with me since I was a little kid, and I was a profound embarrassing beatlemaniac lunatic until I was 13 or so. I don't know that I've felt the music the same way since I was that young.
― akm, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 07:27 (fifteen years ago) link
These are out tommorrow and I still can't decide which box set to get.
― DavidM, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link
mono
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I was leaning toawrds buying the mono box + Abbey Road. But lately I've been thinking, the stereo box has all the albums, it's cheaper, and... does it really matter?
― DavidM, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Man, even the Stereo box is sold out on Amazon now.
― 3 mods 1 banhammer (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Do you think McCartney gets the money from these as an ongoing revenue stream, or does it all land in his bank account at once?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I heard that hundred dollar bills are delivered to his country manse and then fed directly into a wood chipper, and his gardeners use it for mulch.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I bet 90% of it goes to Sony/ATV, taking into account accounting practices and money won from suing downloaders. 10% of that is still tons of money tho.
Paul McCartney is still touring, so I'm putting that up as evidence.
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Like most people, I was initially confused by EMI’s decision to release remastered versions of all 13 albums by the Liverpool pop group Beatles, a 1960s band so obscure that their music is not even available on iTunes. The entire proposition seems like a boondoggle. I mean, who is interested in old music? And who would want to listen to anything so inconveniently delivered on massive four-inch metal discs with sharp, dangerous edges? The answer: no one. When the box arrived in the mail, I briefly considered smashing the entire unopened collection with a ball-peen hammer and throwing it into the mouth of a lion. But then, against my better judgment, I arbitrarily decided to give this hippie shit an informal listen. And I gotta admit—I’m impressed. This band was mad prolific.http://www.avclub.com/articles/chuck-klosterman-repeats-the-beatles,32560/
http://www.avclub.com/articles/chuck-klosterman-repeats-the-beatles,32560/
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
that guy
― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously
― Monsieur Queueue (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
The photos of the packaging in that review are making me want to buy.
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
It’s akin to a combination of Badfinger, Oasis, Corner Shop, and everyother rock band that’s ever existed.
Corner Shop?? Does he mean "Brimful of Asha" Cornershop, or some other Corner Shop?
― DavidM, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh wait, because of the sitar? Good grief.
― DavidM, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Kloster Man has his tongue firmly in cheek here
― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah there's something CRLS-lite about this.
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
wait, pitchfork's entire review section today is tom ewing on the beatles? huuuuh
― thomp, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Sounds good to me!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
(Tom taking over the review section, that is.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Cambridge Rindge and Latin School?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Liking these pitchfork write-ups!
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link
So what do we think regular retail price will end up on these things? B3st Buy's special "sale" price is $12.99 for all of them besides White Album which will be $16.99. I can't justify splurging on the box right away, so I'd prefer picking these up slowly over time. But I'm afraid they'll be like $18 after a couple weeks.
― 3 mods 1 banhammer (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i betcha they'll be wayyyy cheaper than that in a year or so. . .
― Monsieur Queueue (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno, back when I used to buy things in shops I was always waiting for their regular CDs to come down to mid-price or below like every other band on the planet, but they never seemed to have any trouble maintaining full price for the things.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
didn't Marcello once say on a diff thread that both the Beatles and Pink Floyd have it down that they wont ever go to mid-price ?
― mark e, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I pre-ordered from Amazon and was pleasantly surprised to find the single-disc CDs at $12.99 each.
― Jazzbo, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
in the UK, you can pick up pretty much any Floyd album for a fiver all the time. xpost.
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
The Beatles do have it in their contract that they will never be mid-price, yes. At least that is what I heard somewhere once long ago.
― PJ Miller, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
From the NY Times review: "Now EMI should consider moving the catalog to a truly high-definition format, like Blu-ray DVD, adding newly remixed Surround versions like those on “The Beatles Anthology.” With the 50th anniversary of the Beatles’ first hit coming in 2012, there isn’t much time to waste."Do you think they'll actually do this? I guess it seems likely at some point. But a little bit nuts.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
The surround sound is on"Love"
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
How does that work? What do you play it on? Does that mean I have to wait another ten years to buy the box set?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yes surround mixes, the quadraphonic sound of the new century!
― rap telekenisis or some equally retarded nerd shit (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
some day, man ... some day ...http://home.pacbell.net/fmillera/SQS4_bw.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
zaireeka? i hardly knew her!
― rap telekenisis or some equally retarded nerd shit (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
The remastered catalogue, not available online, could relieve a slide in the popularity of CDs, which has dragged US album sales down 14.5 per cent for the year to date, or 31.1 per cent below 2007 levels.By holding out from online stores such as Apple’s iTunes, EMI will ensure that sales of full albums are not undermined by hits such as “Hey Jude” or “Let It Be” being made available individually.
By holding out from online stores such as Apple’s iTunes, EMI will ensure that sales of full albums are not undermined by hits such as “Hey Jude” or “Let It Be” being made available individually.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Just got done listening to Please, Please Me and oh man, what a rediscovery. The guitars snap, twang, and bite. The bass kicks like a mule on Love Me Do and Ringo's back beat holds everything in place, but what impressed me the most are those superb harmonies. Like a lot of people, I'd forgotten how good this early stuff was. I guess I'm going to have to blow a shed load of money, but I want...
― FEMA Camp Sleepover (leavethecapital), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Holy fuck is Tom Ewing a fantastic writer.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link