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maybe it's not real dance music

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

well... now that this thread is going to anguish for another 500 posts or so, I'm still dedicated to posting those Senghore tracks tonight. I won't give up. (Unless Anthony, who's visiting and here for the night, wrestles me out of it.)

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

The good Mr. Easton? Please tell him hello, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

And Dan, haven't you heard that Jaxx b-side? I can't believe they attacked you like that!

I know, the dirty bastards!

*looks around furtively* Fuck that nigger/Fuck that nigger/Dan Perry is a dick/Kick his ass/Kick his ass/Bitch-ass punk makes me sick

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

The weird thing is Renee Fleming sang it. She was jealous of your operatic skills.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Halle Berry is in the video, too. She holds up a sign stating the title of the track.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Renee's coloratura was frickin' weak on the bridge.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

No I still like Daft Punk.

About Senghore, I was just kind of joking saying he's not with it, stuff like "Whaddup" on Underwater and a few high profile remixes like the Audio Bullys one got alot of hype in the British press in 2003.

As regards maybe it's not real dance music, you'd annoy me more if you stuck to doing yokel style racial stereotype impressions of people from far away countries you've never been to : )

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

donut I would like to hear your Senghore, I think.

Ronan, is that because the Daft Punk saturation has not been as copious? perhaps because of the division regarding Human After All? (which in turn has really convinced me definitively that BJ are superior overall).

$V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I was always a much bigger Daft Punk fan anyway, and their relative conservatism (ie, being house music) has kept them fresher, for me anyway. What they do is sort of a constant, I guess that's the advantage/disadvantage of house music.

I mean pre Human Afterall, I just kind of think of that as "ok". I dunno, Daft Punk style music was my favourite stuff for about 2 years!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"Whaddup" sucked. It's probably the only Senghore single I'd probably sell.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link

If "Whaddup" is the only thing that got hyped, I feel really really sorry for Senghore.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

no there were others. "The System", and many many remixes.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link

See, I don't recognize the singles you're mentioning, Ro. I stopped seeing Senghore stuff in stores around 2003 or so, mysteriously.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Anywhere, I'll post some stuff and "Whaddup" for comparison sake, and let ILM judge!

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

The synthesis of Donut and Ronan's position is also the correct position: Senghore used to be really good circa 00-01, and the quality of his work dropped precipitously at the same time that the UK Dance mags started hyping him.

The context for the hype, Donut, was that he sorta fitted into that "hooligan house" sub-genre which promised to emerge in the brief interval between disco-house and electro-house - think Armand Van Helden's "Little Black Spiders", "Where's Your Head At", Par-T-One's "I'm So Crazy", Green Velvet's "La La Land", Audio Bullys "We Don't Care" etc.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Ugh. Sad. Senghore was mad crazy genius when he, Hakan Lîdbo, Martin Venetjoki, had nothing better to do than release 12"s every other day in the early 00s.. not only that, they also formed a gazillion side projects like La Cienda Honduras, Wackdaddies, and probably many others that also released singles every other week.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

It's similar to how Chicken Lips started sucking badly around the same time, in fact. Echoman was the first sign of "eeh", and then I sorta fell off the must-get-every-Chicken-Lips wagon quickly.

However, those first two EPs by Chicken Lips are stone cold classics... "Shoe Beast" (which I used to have on Mp3 but lost, and sadly don't own on wax) from 1998(?) and the "Git Back" EP from 1999... fucking genius. Best dance tracks since the initial Daft Punk, Impulsion, and Micronauts.

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Arg. I just got myself into yet ANOTHER digitization project, didn't I...

donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree that Chicken Lips fell off quite a bit (Extended Play was so boring!)but their DJ mixes (and to some extent their remixes) at least have been great of late

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 19 May 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Hurry up, donut! U've been fairly otm so far. Including your views on 'Whaddup?'. I like evrything else I have by him, being the remixes of the Bullys, Ladytron (awesome), Syndicated People and Chamonix. I'll trade you two of those for some brilliant J-Pop.

My fave Chicken Lips tracks are on the mix they did for DJ Magazine 4 years ago.

The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I had to let the YSI links run overnight because the site was too slow and i had to get to bed :(

But they're done now, and now I have to get ready to go to work... so in a few hours, there will be five links up.. I'll also revive the senghore thread from years ago with the links as well. (and maybe Mark Sinkah's parody thread)

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks donut, I am interested in hearing this stuff.

Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Interesting, Nicole, that I have no idea what music you like, wouldn't ya say?

The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Alrightie, before I post the links to the songs, here's the earliest thread on Senghore and peers that started a while back:
SWEDEN will rule experimental house music...
...which has not only proved to be obviously wrong (so far), but it's just an overall stupid title for a thread. No wonder Mark Sinkah MADE TEH FUN UF ME.

JoB, bless his heart, started two Tony Senghore threads. Ronan bitched on the former, and was called out then. So I'm not sure why he's asking to be called again on this thread, well after the fact, especially with TEH POWAH OF WHY-ESS-EYE!

But anyway, now that "you need to hear the music when you hear it talked about" is the new meme, I'm following through with that, and mainly triggered by Ronan's insistence on bitching about Tony..(to which he can continue to bitch if he doesn't like what he hears below. Never mind my shitty musical tastes!)

La Cienda Honduras & Håkan Lidbo "Everybody Dance (Håkan's Original Mix)" [2001]:
La Cienda Honduras = Tony Senghore + Martin Venetjoki. So, this is a collaboration with a collaboration featuring another Swedish dance producer, Hâkan Lidbo. And yeah, it's a "cover" of the Chic song of the same name.. moreso than Sascha Funke's "cover" of Bros' "When Will I Be Famous?", mind you. Actually, this cover sounds like a fucked up dance mix of a SWEDISH POP GROUP's cover of the Chic original, if that makes sense.

Tony
Senghore "This Is It" [2000]
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One of the earliest singles from the original Horehaus label.. "This Is It/Feisty". This showcases the more lucid, noisy side of Senghore.

Tony
Senghore Feat. 7K "Herbalize Me" [2002?]
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First off, WARNING! Don't d/l if you can't deal with insane, indiscernable screaming guest ragga-men! There, now for all you sane people still reading, this is a good example of Senghore staying great even relatively recently, though 7K definitely helps :) ..(although I can't tell if this is a reissue of an older single or not, but I doubt it.)

Wackdaddies
"Would You" [2001]
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Wackdaddies = Tony Senghore + Peter Woolford. This is from their first full release Fear Of A Wack Planet from 2001. I'm not sure "Would You" is really the title, as discogs.com lists this track as some other title off the vinyl (from whence this came), and the CD has both "Would You" and this other track title listed. My vinyl copy lists "Would You" here, so either the Under The Counter label fucked up on the sleeves, or the discogs.com member fucked up transcribing the track listing. In any case, this is a slight poppy departure on an otherwise great outlet for Senghore as far as pumpin' clicky sampling basics. The best peer album to this is The Soft Pink Truth's Do You Party?. I'm not sure Drew knows who Tony Senghore or Wackdaddies are or not. But I see a lot of similarities here, and I mean that in a good way, as both albums are extremely fun and party-worthy (excluding -- or including -- the very possibility that "Party" in Do You Party? is a reference to a far less innocent colloquialism.)

Tony
Senghore "Whaddup" [2003]
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This is the track that apparently most everyone in the UK & Ireland first heard when they first heard of the name Tony Senghore. The lyrics are ridiculous indeed (although they're not surprising, given the lyrics on Wackdaddies' "Pay Up" from 2001 from the Pay Up EP, though the lyrics there were far funnier.) The lyrics effects are still great. Otherwise, this is quite a musical departure, in that it retains nothing that is uniquely "Senghore" form the preceding years. "Whaddup", after another listen, is still quite redeemable IMHO. At least, it's better than, say, Black Strobe's "Nazi Trance Fuck Off" (IMHO, once again.) But this definitely does have that Electric Six sensibility of "I AM THE GIORGIO MORODER!/WITH A HUGE FUCKING DICK (YEAH, I SHOWED HER!)" This song could easily fit on a mix CD with the likes of Thugfucker, Heavy Rock, and Electric Six's "Danger! High Voltage!", "Synthesizer", and perhaps stuff from the latest album. But despite the good qualities of this song, it's true that I used to buy ANYTHING with Senghore's name on it without previewing until I bought "Whaddup". Then I stopped. Then apparently Senghore stopped. *shrug*

...

I'll be posting more maybe on this thread and the former thread.. including Senghore stuff from 1999.

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

are these all wav files? you crazy man!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Are they?

FUCK!

I had mp3s done.. No WONDER they took so long to upload :(

FUCKITY FUCK FUCK.

I'll have to try again tonight.

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

crazy like a fox!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I'd prefer wavs actually!

$V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, enjoy the wavs while you can. When I repost the mp3 YSI links tonight, you can delete the wavs you d/l'ed today.. if you're that curious.

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link

(unless like $V£N!, you prefer wavs)

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

More will come either Sunday or Monday.

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link

dude, post "pay up"

vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

If I had the single, I would, but I don't. (I actually don't think too much of it, but I can swing by Zion's Gate and see if it's still there.. there's a huge Under The Counter section there I need to properly go through.)

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
http://www.savethehoodie.co.uk/site.php

This absolutely wonderful.

snowballing (snowballing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

WOW. I think I like the "Remix I" clip even more!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

The "Brucker + Sinden remix"?

Can't decide which one I like more! I'll just have to listen to them one after another on repeat!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I love love love the Jaxx remix. I need this now.

snowballing (snowballing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I think the non-remix one on that is the Jaxx version, yes?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

This left me completely cold.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU ARE DEAD INSIDE. This is a single of the year contender.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

(Haha looking upthread I see I've already given this song a nickname)

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Dan, did you click the most recent link? Is it really the same thing? If it is then you are just weird.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Remix 1 better than the original, it sounds a little more focused

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

(Haha looking upthread I see I've already given this song a nickname)

Dan, this song is not mentioned upthread!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

REVIVE!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 October 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
'Make Me Sweat' sounds pretty good.

blueski, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

It's just an edited version of the b-side to "Take Me...", "Lollipop". "Lollipop" is much better IMO.

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

someone described roxanne shante's vox as "a breathy Uffie-style rap". no respect. ;__;

haitch, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link


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