Justice - † Pretentious symbol = french dance?

I don't really like bad religion either, for what it's worth.

"Progress" > anything Justice will ever do.

Just listened to that and have to disagree.

I'm not sure why people don't "get" Justice. I mean, if you don't like their music that's fine, but the appeal isn't anything mysterious.

I believe this was the intended cover art for the Fabriclive mix:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a348/ddelara/fabriclive37web.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL9uFSptJzg

Yeah, saw that commercial the other day. That is easily my favorite song on the album.

(Cadillac also use one of my favorite Dntel songs, "Last Songs", in another Escalade commercial...)

justice DJing at sonar this year was like the death of music it made me feel so bad. mpeople for fuck sake

they played M People?

'Genesis' really is a spectacular piece of work imo, however you may feel about the density or bluntness of the sounds. The breathing/chorus sound at the start of 'Valentine' is also amazing.

Genesis is the best song they've done in my opinion.

it would be awesome if the people who thought justice was the death of music could, like, try to articulate why thats the case

Not one band, or even a number of bands could lead to the death of music.
That's just silly.

it would be awesome if the people who thought justice was the death of music could, like, try to articulate why thats the case

who are these people

justice DJing at sonar this year was like the death of music it made me feel so bad. mpeople for fuck sake

-- straight, Wednesday, February 6, 2008 10:41 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Link

remember that guy who called Moby's 'Hotel' the death of music?

well, music sure showed him.

Nothing can kill music.
Not even everyones ears being chopped off.

what about their hands?

I've seen people play with their toes...accept the music would be mostly drums and piano...

I'm assuming the reason Fabric didn't release that Justice mix is because its kind of embarrassing.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ1YHp-U8YM

they like a laugh and a joke.

i think the Justice mix is pretty good apart from a few too many obvious/played out cuts (Korgis and some of the stuff towards the end i can't remember right now). it does sound more like a Back To Mine granted.

i was hoping they'd put that Syreeta Wright track from their Essential Mix on it but this has since turned up on the new Fatboy Slim Late Night Tales heh

justice DJing at sonar this year was like the death of music it made me feel so bad. mpeople for fuck sake

-- straight, Wednesday, February 6, 2008 10:41 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Link

and? what's the problem?

maybe it was 'search for the hero'

the real reason the fabric mix got knocked back?

De Rosnay dismisses rumours that Fabric were disappointed with disco and synth pop that he admits went “beyond the limit of cheesiness” because they were expecting a genre-defining maximal mix, but the official story is just as telling. Fabric compilations must clear a maximum of 24 tracks in 70-75 minutes, and Justice’s proposal ran through as many tracks in just over half the allotted time, mixed with the same verse-chorus-next track approach as the block party pioneers who invented turntablism. De Rosnay comments: “It’s funny that a club which is supposed to have a knowledge of dance music would slam us on our knowledge. They were a bit like 'Wow, are you making fun of us?’”

justice DJing at sonar this year was like the death of music it made me feel so bad. mpeople for fuck sake

-- straight, Wednesday, February 6, 2008 10:41 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Link

and? what's the problem?

M People certainly have better tunes than anything I've heard from Justice.

makes you wonder how As Heard On Radio Soulwax CDs ever got cleared

mixed with the same verse-chorus-next track approach as the block party pioneers who invented turntablism

errrrrrrrr

I've never heard of this "approach" in any history of DJing. Sounds more like a megamix.

it's not exactly unfamiliar, but it's not 'turntablism' either.

Yeah.

It was at these free neighborhood parties that DJ Kool Herc defined his style that would lead to the hip-hop movement. Herc would get two copies of the same record and focus on a small part of each record, called the break. As one record reached the end of the break, he would cue the other record back to the beginning of the break, thereby extending a relatively small part of a record into a long "five-minute loop of fury" play a bit of 'Rocker', and then 'Seven Nation Army' up to the first chorus. The neighborhood parties became too big for his building and moved from Sedgwick Avenue to the nearby Twilight Zone club; hip-hop began to spread around the city.

i knew what they meant

makes you wonder how As Heard On Radio Soulwax CDs ever got cleared

well you can buy them all on Amazon new so they must be legit now (tho they may not have been for some time after release of vol 2)

are there any justice live-sets out there??

lots

the question remains.

Does †(Pretentious symbol) = french dance?

If so, what about †(Spencer Chow)?

Can a Fourier series be built out of &dagger(t) (time) or †(f) (frequency)?

well you can buy them all on Amazon new so they must be legit now (tho they may not have been for some time after release of vol 2)

-- blueski, Monday, March 3, 2008 6:05 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

I dunno about that. Most indie-label rap artists don't clear their samples and still get sold on Amazon. They also sell Girl Talk, and nothing was cleared there. I don't think Amazon takes an interest because they can't or won't be held liable for any infringements unless it's something brazenly illegal like copied cds.

lol, they are on 'waxed soul recordings'.

LOVELY new video for DVNO: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e_XzCR2MbrU

radio soulwax pt2 was indeed the only official one.
when released, the bands website had the full story of the clearance nightmares - was quite a read.
it took them years to get it all sorted/cleared.
i would suggest that the other parts were released semi-officially by the band themselves as opposed to properly by a label.
(see all those UNKLE mixtapes and the whole hip hop groove as mentioned above)

retro logo fun!

"slam us on our knowledge" = ask for a longer mix?

mark e, do you have a link to the swax clearance story? i'd really like to read that

STORY

the un-authorised, un-official story

"i'm sick of it, please, no more phonecalls..i can't afford myself doing so much work for such little output!" - anonymous record-company spokeswoman.

it's been almost three years in the making, it took one record company employee more than six months of hard labour, 865 e-mails, 160 faxes and hundreds of phone calls to contact over 45 major and independent record-companies.
a total amount of 187 different tracks were involved from which 114 got approved, 62 refused and 11 were un-trackable.
it caused massive headaches and sweaty palms to employees of 'clearance centres' and record companies all over the world.
but it's finally here. it's about 62 minutes long and there's 45 (or is that 46?) tracks on it.
it took seven long days and nights to cut, edit, mix and re-edit it all together and it fucking rocks!

ladies and gentlemen, two - many - deejays!

to be honest, nobody ever thought it was going to happen.
it was clear from the beginning that some of the tracks they (stephen and david) wanted to use were very hard to get. some record-company executives probably thought this was going to be easy money involving minimal costs and a big output. but it turned out otherwise.
most people are probably expecting a record that's fit to be played in clubs, trendy bars or edgy urban clothes-shops. those people are going to be disappointed. and if you're expecting a typical 'rockband-who-are-into-dance-music' routine, you might as well start looking for your stub.
this is not - i repeat, not - your average 'jump-the-bandwagon-and-make-some-money-on-the-way'-compilation.

if you ask me there's a certain grandmaster flash-approach to the whole album. 'cause what the grand master did was nothing more than take all his favourite bits from his favourite records and put them together to create something new and special. the same thing is happening here. only, flash did it with a crew passing him his records and stephen and david did it on a mac g3.
so beware, if you just go by the looks of the tracklist, you are bound to expect something completely different than what you eventually will hear. you've been warned.

but it doesn't run all too smoothly if you try to do something different. you have to prepare yourself for the long and winding road that runs through the jungle that is known as 'the record industry'
in these post-modern times of illegal mp3's and white label bootlegs it is all too easy to think you can get away with anything. you can't.
never forget that everyone wants a piece of the cake. and watch out if they don't want to be in the dough at all.
if you want to include somebody's music on a release of your own you've got to get permission from the owner of the 'master tapes', which usually is the artist's record company.
depending on the contract the artist has with the company, they've got to ask his/her permission as well. this process is known as 'licensing' or, in record-company talk, 'clearing' the copyrights.

'no problemo,' i hear the amateur-deejay inside you think. 'who wouldn't like to be included in my supa-dupa deejay-mix that definitely is going to be a big success 'cause all my mates say it's great?'
well, some bands or singers aren't too keen on 'lending out' their songs for other people's use. and that philosophy is not always coming from a corner you might expect.
a certain very well known hip-hop trio from new york, for instance, who once encountered some copyright-lawsuits of their own, will never, ever license one of their tracks for any compilation.
mostly this has to do with maintaining the 'exclusivity' of their tracks or in other words they're saying: 'if you want to hear my songs, buy the frickin' album'

to give you an even better peek at the international world of record-company bonanza, there's the 'track-by-track' commentary that includes footnotes from both stephen and david themselves and some anonymous record-company 'officials'

"I want a final 'read and approved' on this text and your not going to be a hard case about that!" - anonymous management person

god that video is soooo good.

there's the 'track-by-track' commentary that includes footnotes from both stephen and david themselves and some anonymous record-company 'officials'

I've read this stuff on their site too but the current layout is fucking ridiculous, you'll have to go hunt for it

now i need a video for Surkin's 'Next Of Kin' (or that ravey one)

what are H5 (Etienne's brother and Antoine Bardou-Jacquet) who did the 'Remind Me' vid up to these days?