Worst Genre: Metalcore,Deathcore or Nu-Metal?

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luckily i've been spared most of this nonsense but going on the few bands i've unfortunately heard, it's metalcore

dorroughmac (k3vin k.), Thursday, 17 September 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

youre too young to remember nu-metal then i assume?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 17 September 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

wish i was

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 September 2009 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

dude idk - what's nu-metal, limp biskit and the like? that's not as bad as underoath or the devil wears prada

dorroughmac (k3vin k.), Friday, 18 September 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Um... hmm.

Nate Carson, Friday, 18 September 2009 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Come to think of it I'd much rather listen to Godsmack than the Devil Wears Prada.

A. Begrand, Friday, 18 September 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

tough call.

I'd count botch/converge as metalcore and those bands rule.

on the nu-metal tip, I like linkin park "faint" and deftones. "let the bodies hit the flo" is pretty lolsy, too.

deathcore has no reason to exist, as far as I can tell. gonna go with that.

original bgm, Friday, 18 September 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Botch maybe but not Converge, but yes, both rule, and even if they were metalcore, they still couldnt save it as a genre.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 September 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I like tons of others 90s metalcore bands too (rorschach, coalesce, early cave in, etc.) but different strokes for different folks.

original bgm, Friday, 18 September 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, metalcore now doesn't mean what it used to mean. now people just use it to describe all the horrible melo-death-influenced crud.

nu-metal is definitely the worst though. i can't think of a single nu-metal band i would want to listen to. the only times i could stomach some nu-metal bands is when they let their new wave flags fly. some of them were just frustrated goth bands in metal drag. and the ministry + nine inch nails elements were easier to take than the rap + pantera elements.

scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i still like stuff that used to be described as "metallic hardcore". not crossover stuff, but dumb riff and breakdown heavy hardcore. cuz i'm from connecticut. and i have to.

scott seward, Friday, 18 September 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Nu-metal, though I'm not so keen on deathcore either. Could never vote for Metalcore because Calculating Infinity is one of the most bitchingly awesome albums ever.

amarillo fat (jim), Friday, 18 September 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

modern day metalcore then for the purposes of this poll. the shit thats been so ubiquitous the past 5 years or so

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 18 September 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

There are exactly two bands in the nu-metal neighborhood that I fucking love. Sepultura and Will Haven. WHVN are so fucking underrated, it's sad.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 19 September 2009 01:23 (fourteen years ago) link

nu-metal was a quick-fadded scourge that managed to simultaneously do even more to "malign the genre of metal" whilst dragging down further the mental intellect of bozos throughout the world. Metalcore wins out of the three, singularly because of Converge. Fuck knows what Deathcore is, but it doesn't sound very good.

dog latin, Saturday, 19 September 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Converge, while being a band that meld hardcore and metal, are not really anything to do with metalcore the genre as being discussed in this thread.

amarillo fat (jim), Saturday, 19 September 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

imo

amarillo fat (jim), Saturday, 19 September 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd half forgotten about Botch. C. Thomas Howell as the Soul Man is a jam.

amarillo fat (jim), Saturday, 19 September 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh come on, people. Sure, there's a lot of really crappy metalcore, but the big dogs of the genre like Shadows Fall, God Forbid, Killswitch, and All That Remains have released some seriously awesome material. I'd rather listen to the worst Shadows Fall record than the very best that nu-metal had to offer. At least those bands have killer guitar work and solos and not just "chunk chunk chunk."

Defender Of The Girly Metal Faith (J3ff T.), Saturday, 19 September 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

All That Remains and God Forbid have turned into a couple of pretty great bands. Tough to call either metalcore anymore...those hardcore elements are minimal now.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 19 September 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Is Neurosis metalcore? And if not, why not?

Nate Carson, Saturday, 19 September 2009 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

cuz its not

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 19 September 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Neurosis make "heavy music".

scott seward, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

for people with beards

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i had a beard once. d'ya think i'd like 'em?

all you need is love vs. money (that's what i want) (Ioannis), Sunday, 20 September 2009 08:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Listen to Enemy of the Sun. If you don't like it, give up.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 20 September 2009 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link

if you dont like Neurosis youre no friend of mine :)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 September 2009 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link

and check out Through Silver In Blood first.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 September 2009 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link

early neurosis is worth checking out too, just totally different.

huh (latebloomer), Sunday, 20 September 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

(crusty hardcore instead of the later doomier slower stuff)

huh (latebloomer), Sunday, 20 September 2009 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought Nate only liked the earlier stuff tbh

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 September 2009 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

When they were hardcore they had no metal and when they were metal they had no hardcore

you used to sleep with somebody who avoided a soap (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 September 2009 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

(that's why not, multiple xps)

you used to sleep with somebody who avoided a soap (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 September 2009 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

that too

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 September 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

xxxpost - Word As Law and Souls at Zero are definitely the tipping points between their hardcore and metal eras. As someone who saw those early tours, I certainly remember a lot of punks crying foul that Word As Law sounded like Metallica and that Souls At Zero sounded like a movie soundtrack.

They really had me from Pain of Mind thru Enemy of the Sun. With Through Silver in Blood came Ozzfests and Pantera tours and I lost interest until Times of Grace.

No matter what they do, I like the band and respect them. But when I reach for an album to spin, it's always one of the first 4.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Just because they went on ozzfest after TSIB ,you shouldnt hate it! It rules!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 20 September 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Nu-metal doesn't bother me now, hated it at the time, but I am v unlikely to actually hear it.

Metalcore and Deathcore I'm not sure about yet - can somebody clarify by saying if they are True Metal or False Metal?

I am using your worlds, Monday, 21 September 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost-I don't hate it. I just didn't give it a chance. Yet.

Nate Carson, Monday, 21 September 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Do it!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

you wont be disappointed.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

you will regret not hearing it sooner

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

does even chuck hate nu metal?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 September 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

all the death metal djs at my radio station hate "core," and complain about it all the time, which is weird cause i can't even tell one from the other and i listen to deathmetal. i guess it's like how the line between emo and pop punk is really thin and ambiguous, but certain pop punk kids still the shit out of hate emo.

samosa gibreel, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Horrorcore

_Rockist__Scientist_, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link

*still hate the shit out of emo.

also by "core" i mean deathcore.

samosa gibreel, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link

if those voting for nu-metal had heard loads of metalcore and deathcore bands im not sure they would vote nu-metal tbh. but i dont blame them for not wanting to check it out.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The thing with deathcore, while I don't think much of it as a style, is that someone who didn't fuck with DM in the first place probably wouldn't find it appreciably less likeable than grown-up DM

I told u I was deathcore (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

(the same might go for metalcore depending on what kind of thing we were talking about)

I told u I was deathcore (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i wonder which core will finish 2nd to nu metal. Im gonna guess metalcore as deathcore is still kinda new and not as well known yet.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

The only deathcore I'll acknowledge:

http://i59.tinypic.com/255i2qh.jpg

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 19 March 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link

Metalcore and deathcore don't have to suck, right? I mean the crossover era produced some good albums, why is this shit so meathead and dumb?

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 19 March 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

i don't think i actually know how to recognize deathcore, it's such a minor permutation of metalcore

The vocalists have halitosis

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 19 March 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

Iirc Corpsegrinder's breath smells like chrysanthemums

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 19 March 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

I'd imagine it smells like whatever his neck is full of

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 19 March 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

Ferrets

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 19 March 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

cool that as i lay dying let their lead singer – you know, the guy who put a hit out on his wife – back into the fold and nme called it 'controversial.' uhhh

maura, Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

funny zing I heard at a Ringworm show from members of the band to their fans - "those parts between the breakdowns are known as 'riffs', folks"

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 February 2020 03:11 (four years ago) link


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