well you can buy them all on Amazon new so they must be legit now (tho they may not have been for some time after release of vol 2)
― blueski, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 02:05 (sixteen years ago) link
are there any justice live-sets out there??
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link
lots
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link
the question remains.
Does †(Pretentious symbol) = french dance?
If so, what about †(Spencer Chow)?
― Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Can a Fourier series be built out of &dagger(t) (time) or †(f) (frequency)?
― Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link
-- blueski, Monday, March 3, 2008 6:05 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
I dunno about that. Most indie-label rap artists don't clear their samples and still get sold on Amazon. They also sell Girl Talk, and nothing was cleared there. I don't think Amazon takes an interest because they can't or won't be held liable for any infringements unless it's something brazenly illegal like copied cds.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:01 (sixteen years ago) link
lol, they are on 'waxed soul recordings'.
― haitch, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:29 (sixteen years ago) link
LOVELY new video for DVNO: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e_XzCR2MbrU
― blueski, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link
radio soulwax pt2 was indeed the only official one. when released, the bands website had the full story of the clearance nightmares - was quite a read. it took them years to get it all sorted/cleared. i would suggest that the other parts were released semi-officially by the band themselves as opposed to properly by a label. (see all those UNKLE mixtapes and the whole hip hop groove as mentioned above)
― mark e, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link
retro logo fun!
― Alan, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link
"slam us on our knowledge" = ask for a longer mix?
― braveclub, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
mark e, do you have a link to the swax clearance story? i'd really like to read that
― NI, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
STORY
the un-authorised, un-official story
"i'm sick of it, please, no more phonecalls..i can't afford myself doing so much work for such little output!" - anonymous record-company spokeswoman.
it's been almost three years in the making, it took one record company employee more than six months of hard labour, 865 e-mails, 160 faxes and hundreds of phone calls to contact over 45 major and independent record-companies. a total amount of 187 different tracks were involved from which 114 got approved, 62 refused and 11 were un-trackable. it caused massive headaches and sweaty palms to employees of 'clearance centres' and record companies all over the world. but it's finally here. it's about 62 minutes long and there's 45 (or is that 46?) tracks on it. it took seven long days and nights to cut, edit, mix and re-edit it all together and it fucking rocks!
ladies and gentlemen, two - many - deejays!
to be honest, nobody ever thought it was going to happen. it was clear from the beginning that some of the tracks they (stephen and david) wanted to use were very hard to get. some record-company executives probably thought this was going to be easy money involving minimal costs and a big output. but it turned out otherwise. most people are probably expecting a record that's fit to be played in clubs, trendy bars or edgy urban clothes-shops. those people are going to be disappointed. and if you're expecting a typical 'rockband-who-are-into-dance-music' routine, you might as well start looking for your stub. this is not - i repeat, not - your average 'jump-the-bandwagon-and-make-some-money-on-the-way'-compilation.
if you ask me there's a certain grandmaster flash-approach to the whole album. 'cause what the grand master did was nothing more than take all his favourite bits from his favourite records and put them together to create something new and special. the same thing is happening here. only, flash did it with a crew passing him his records and stephen and david did it on a mac g3. so beware, if you just go by the looks of the tracklist, you are bound to expect something completely different than what you eventually will hear. you've been warned.
but it doesn't run all too smoothly if you try to do something different. you have to prepare yourself for the long and winding road that runs through the jungle that is known as 'the record industry' in these post-modern times of illegal mp3's and white label bootlegs it is all too easy to think you can get away with anything. you can't. never forget that everyone wants a piece of the cake. and watch out if they don't want to be in the dough at all. if you want to include somebody's music on a release of your own you've got to get permission from the owner of the 'master tapes', which usually is the artist's record company. depending on the contract the artist has with the company, they've got to ask his/her permission as well. this process is known as 'licensing' or, in record-company talk, 'clearing' the copyrights.
'no problemo,' i hear the amateur-deejay inside you think. 'who wouldn't like to be included in my supa-dupa deejay-mix that definitely is going to be a big success 'cause all my mates say it's great?' well, some bands or singers aren't too keen on 'lending out' their songs for other people's use. and that philosophy is not always coming from a corner you might expect. a certain very well known hip-hop trio from new york, for instance, who once encountered some copyright-lawsuits of their own, will never, ever license one of their tracks for any compilation. mostly this has to do with maintaining the 'exclusivity' of their tracks or in other words they're saying: 'if you want to hear my songs, buy the frickin' album'
to give you an even better peek at the international world of record-company bonanza, there's the 'track-by-track' commentary that includes footnotes from both stephen and david themselves and some anonymous record-company 'officials'
"I want a final 'read and approved' on this text and your not going to be a hard case about that!" - anonymous management person
― dmr, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link
god that video is soooo good.
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
there's the 'track-by-track' commentary that includes footnotes from both stephen and david themselves and some anonymous record-company 'officials'
I've read this stuff on their site too but the current layout is fucking ridiculous, you'll have to go hunt for it
― dmr, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link
now i need a video for Surkin's 'Next Of Kin' (or that ravey one)
what are H5 (Etienne's brother and Antoine Bardou-Jacquet) who did the 'Remind Me' vid up to these days?
― blueski, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link
not sure if it's been mentioned here, yet. the new live album and documentary are surprisingly good.almost as good as alive 2007.
― Creeztophair, Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Is the encore sampling a certain famous hard rock group in there?
― Gino-Vanellyville (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes. Also, enormous meh.
― Passenger 57 (rogermexico.), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
pre-ordered the DVD/CD just because the trailer looked awesome
― san frandisco, Friday, 5 December 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link
― baaderonixx, Friday, 5 December 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link
there's no such thing as a justice live set
― Doing you a favour mate (Dave from Norwich), Friday, 5 December 2008 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link
lol @ that video
― :) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Friday, 5 December 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
best bits: Rydeen, super hot french girl just after that
― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Friday, 5 December 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link
You're on a mission and your wishinSomeone could cure your lonely conditionLookin for love in all the wrongplacesNo fine girls just blurry faces
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 5 December 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
the jon spencer blues explosion of dance
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 5 December 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
This record kicks ass to work out to, must say.
― Joe Bob 1 Tooth (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe they should start playing techno at gyms
― da croupier, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
another Front 242 parallel resolved
― Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh my god. They *ARE* the French Ministry.
I haven't LOLed so hard in ages.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
― Arrive Naked, Bring Prog (Masonic Boom), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link
imo this record is still pretty ehhh
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Saturday, 14 August 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link
imo this record is still pretty great
are these guys ever going to do another one?
― your favorite homoerotic savior imagery (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 November 2010 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
The Justice/Uffie reflex "hate" in this thread is still very perplexing. Especially considering how modern pop is totally gang raping this sound as of now.
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Just because modern pop is raping that sound (no disagreement here) doesn't mean it shouldn't be hated. Songs like "Tik Tok" are the worst, IMO. The only thing I like about the Justice track is that it seems like it tries as hard as possible to be obnoxious. The lyrics seem to be purposely aggrivating, deliberately don't rhyme, and the beat doesn't even kick in until like halfway through the song!! Plus, it's called "TTHHEE PPAARRTTYY"! How irritating is that??
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I think part of the Uffie hate is a reaction to how much Uffie's lyrics on The Party sound like Ke$ha.
Sorry if I'm contaminating Cross with Civilization talk but a new Justice single was used in an Adidas commercial. There's bound to be a rip out there if you look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCRihtIZZdM
― The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost
I hate "Tik Tok" even more than you do, I'm sure. Mostly because it's such a blatant rip off and because it's sung-spoken by fucking Ke$ha. And if I'm not mistaken, it's Ke$ha's lyrics that sound like Uffie's. The Uffie hate is because people actually think she's a rapper and hold her to the same standard as Ghostface, which I think is pretty ridiculous. As Deej said upthread, she makes party girl rap...not that hard to understand, especially when someone as lyrically challenged as Missy Elliot exist(ed) and people LOVED her.
I like Justice a lot and Civilization sounds really good, but this is not music I dance to much at all. It's "activity" music. Music to work out to, bike ride to, drive to, create montages with, etc.
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno..I hate her because her voice is fucking obnoxious and she says things like "take it to the next lev"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
you just compared uffie to missy elliot
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
lotta dumb shit being said itt
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
"Stress" is the only Justice track I ever want to hear, ever
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I just read the RA feature on Justice linked up thread and they seem to consider themselves more pop dance music. It'd be hard to dance to the instrumental tracks (Stress, Let There be Light, Nazareth) but all the songs with vocals (DVNO, DANCE, We Are Your Friends) are definitely danceable.
― The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Got Jesus on my neck-a-luss.
― matt2, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
do explain
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
use of "gang-raping" as non-gross metaphorbewilderment that ilm dislikes justice and uffie even though some current pop acts that dont get very much ilm love have a similar soundbelief that "tik tok" is "the worst"belief that ilx hates uffie b/c she sounds like keshahatred of keshabelief that ilx hates uffie b/c she is not as good a rapper as ghostfacebelief that missy elliott is lyrically challenged <--- possibly dumbest shit said itt
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't understand why anyone would be surprised that ILM dislikes Justice either but most of that is just "opinion that doesn't line up with mine = dumb shit"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
huh
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
isnt that weird
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
for the record, the main reason why I hate Uffie is because she is not as good a rapper as U-God
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
ahhh my favorite style of posting
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i love tik tok
i thought this revive was going to be bc the new single had leaked or something
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 07:10 (thirteen years ago) link