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David Howie's impressionistic write-up of Life To Experience finally gets run! http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/lte.html

Tom (Groke), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry David!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

haha don't be sorry, tho' if the formattin' is screwed, grrr... sorry Tom fer harrasslin' you.

david h (david h), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Link!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

The formatting is PERFECT. Thank you.

david h (david h), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

For some reason I couldn't make it all the way through this, but it looks like you rang the right bells -- MBV, Jeff Buckley, the Bible.

Ever seen 'em live? They blew me away, way more than what I could make out from the record.

wl (wl), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Very spiff. :-) Read a recent article about them that impressed me greatly -- especially since it confirmed all the MBV comparisons were far from unfounded, they're total shoegaze addicts by their own description! -- and this article now really makes me want to hear the record. Hurrah! :-) Mind you, the MBV album does have nice melodies -- and I don't know about that Jeff Buckley guy, though, I'll just pretend they like eunuchs. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

you crush me with the first sentence, but you're right, that was my own fault

i have seen them live and they are phenomenal, just turn the record up loud too, treble up, bass down a bit, a finger of middle and its the same... nearly...

I don't like Jeff Buckley at all either, Ned.

(do you have a link to that other article?)

the album is a phenom

david h (david h), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't like Jeff Buckley at all either, Ned.

Rah!

(do you have a link to that other article?)

To my knowledge it is print only...*checks*...yeah, the Arthur mag as yet has no online archive, just this page.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

It's a fucking great record and I stand by that statement even now as someone who listens to very little rock music.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 21 October 2002 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)

No crushing meant. What do I know anyway?

It's good to see someone writing about them. It would suck if they were overhyped, but they're clearly on the other end of that curve; they haven't gotten the amount of coverage they deserve.

wl (wl), Monday, 21 October 2002 20:13 (twenty-three years ago)

meep!

david h (david h), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 08:13 (twenty-three years ago)

fantastic. The only bit of noisy guitar music in the last 5 years that's got me really excited, coming back to it again and again.

I love the piece; the only thing that wasn't discussed head-on is the question - what is Josh actually ON about?

His lyrics are quite extraordinary, and his lyrical concerns quite prophetic seeing as they were written before sept 11. Anyone else who's listened care to discuss this one?

jon (jon), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 12:05 (twenty-three years ago)

quite prophetic seeing as they were written before sept 11.

No. Unless the apocalypse happened in Texas, and it became Jerusalem, and Buck was the Second Coming. I don't remember that happening though.

Unless you're saying any album with apocalyptic themes or overtones (there've been many) would somehow be prophetic of terrorist attacks, which at the time and for a long time thereafter certainly felt like the end of the world.

wl (wl), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)

It's just that I spent last summer listening to that album (and the Godspeed one, though of course there are no words to that) thinking 'how weird, I've not heard music so deeply informed by a sense of imminent apocalypse since the early 80s'. In the early 80s, there were very good reasons to fear imminent apocolypse; in summer 01, there weren't, really. Then it all felt like Zeitgeist-before-the-event a few months later.

You're right, of course - anything semi-biblical and apocalyptic fits the post-Sept 11 bill. But Josh does get quite worked up about America as the venue for some bloody armageddon and the ties between it and Palestine, all of which made half-sense last Summer and then rather too much sense later in the Autumn.

But leaving that aside - it's really a canard unless those Texas Boys had some intelligence the CIA didn't have - I'm still interested in the very clear personal mythology Josh espouses on that record. Is it, for all it's poetry, nouveau Confederate talk? or something purely personal about making music? It's about his roots, his music, and his 'old testament'background, for sure: but what do we think he's trying to say?

jon (jon), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

re: Buck's lyrics, I vascillate between thinking it's muddled twaddle and being kind of mesmerized by the same things you're talking about, Jon.

I'm not sure there's a message... It all seems like daydreams and obsessions that kept his mind off reality whilst shoveling horseshit. So kind of all of the above -- personal/ mythological/ Southern Gothic/ art wank/ hip hop trashtalk even.

It'll be interesting to see if he continues with this thread or jumps tracks on LtE's sophomore release, I think.

wl (wl), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure there's a message either - but I do think the imagery has so much internal consistency there's a good chance it all hang together, in his mind, at least. And would love to get to understand that more.

And I wondered whether some of the references made more, or different, sense to an American listener - but if you are one, I guess not - as you seem to have got about as far as I have with it! Does it sound crypto-Conferederate to you?

I too wonder where they can go next. There are many great first albums out there, but rarely one that stakes out and expresses a complete sonic and lyrical worldview so fully, ahem.

jon (jon), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:33 (twenty-three years ago)

To be honest, as an East Coaster-cum-West Coaster, I'd imagine the South is as foreign to me as it is to you.

By the same token, I'm not sure what you mean by "crypto-Confederate." All it brings to mind for me is the reference to rifles and gun racks. As much as Buck's delving into myth, etc., his surroundings clearly inform his fantasy/lyrics as well.

Anyhow, I don't think there's an American secret that makes all of T-J Crossroads make sense. It's got a muddled mystery/ internal consistency ratio similar to most decent concept albums I can think of.

wl (wl), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

re Conferedates - I was just clutching as straws. All that 'turn your eyes towards the South' stuff.

I think he is 'saying something', but it may not be an American secret so much as a personal one.

I chatted to him after a gig in Bristol, UK, and came close to taking him for a long walk into our history, but chickened out. Felt like we might have things in common.

jon (jon), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Liked the article quite a bit. Hated the album, though; had enough of apocalyptichristian gun-toting Texans to last me the rest of my life...and, more importantly, couldn't find a hook I liked in the whole thing. But your article almost makes me want to listen again. Nice work conveying your attachment to music.

Matt C., Tuesday, 22 October 2002 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Thank you, lots... all of you taking time out to listen and comment. I will adress the wl/jon axis of me-ville in due time.

david h (david h), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

do, david - I'd enjoy that discussion.

jon (jon), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 07:52 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
Can I belatedly say that I really like this album a lot. But, apart from obvious reference points like Jeff Buckley and the first Verve album, it reminds me most of... Jane Siberry's When I Was A Boy?!?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 24 June 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

these guys are done, eh?

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

The album is fantastic. It's a shame that Pearson went a little crazy and probably won't be releasing another LTE album.

van nostrum (Buck Van Smack), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

(belated) the article was ok, i just didn't want to be beaten over the head with the train-of-thought non-theme theme realization/parallel.

i like this line: "Pearson is on park benches all over this album."

katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Josh Pearson allegedly is recording a solo album, though, or does the Bella Union website deceive me?

As though I needed another reason, Lift to Experience makes me real, real proud to be from Texas.

Adolescence Mokushiroku! (gendo ikari), Saturday, 1 July 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

Josh is working on a solo album in berlin, last i heard. i wrote this piece http://mycherieamour.blogspot.com/2005/02/josh-t-pearson.html in 2004 for loose lips, and it ties up some of the loose ends since they last played (though Josh has, successfully, returned to the stage since).

i am not a nugget (stevie), Sunday, 2 July 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

As though I needed another reason, Lift to Experience makes me real, real proud to be from Texas.

That's a relief, because there just isn't enough Texas pride out there.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Sunday, 2 July 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

brilliant record.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 2 July 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

My friend's record label put Josh Pearson on at a wee sweaty venue in Brighton last night. Sublime.

Noisy and gravelly and raw and guttural and many many great things. Must really make more of an effort with Lift to Experience now.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

As this is the longest thread about them, I'll revive it...

Not keen on Cozen's article, to be honest. Too precious. Too carved.

But this record. This record is a sandstorm. Phenomenal.

I met Josh before I'd heard it, backstage at a 65daysofstatic gig last May. We talked about the internet. Interesting guy. He had a massive ZZ Top beard then. I'd love him to do a solo album.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 24 April 2008 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

Lucky enough to see these at some Festival or other.Reading? Leeds? Must've been pre Leeds?

The three of them treated the whole set like they were flying to the sun or some other out there place . It was that important.

I was probably pissed but they were great.

Was poised to see Josh Pearson recently and bottled it for some rubbish reason. I think it was a Sunday night

Fer Ark, Thursday, 24 April 2008 11:45 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

does the main guy have a solo record then Nick?

been meaning to relisten to the Lift to Experience record again but it's buried somewhere in Dublin

Local Garda, Saturday, 15 November 2008 11:10 (seventeen years ago)

As far as I know, while he's written songs and toured, he's not recorded or released anything solo, which is a shame.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 15 November 2008 11:16 (seventeen years ago)

Nothing as far as I know, though I think there may have been a ltd 7" somewhere.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 15 November 2008 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

Josh Pearson did a ltd split 7" of I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry with Dirty Three's Doris in 2006 plus he released a CDR of the same track at around the same time.

I spoke to him at ATP in 2006 and he was still unsure that there was a market for his stuff (!), which I assured him wasn't the case as the gig he did the night before had gone down a storm.

I believe he will release stuff in his own good time (or possibly the much rumoured LtE reunion may occur). Until then, get to see him as much as you can because he is fantastic. Also there is at least one live Pearson solo set doing the rounds on P2P torrent.

Guilty_Boksen, Saturday, 15 November 2008 18:12 (seventeen years ago)

I have the CDR of I'm So Lonesome he released ("Josh Sings Hank") and there was another CDR of a show he's been hawking round, which I think is the saem show as the one which is normally on p2p.

I suspect LTE might have burned him so badly he's happy just scraping a living playing shows.

straight outta Easter Compton (aldo), Saturday, 15 November 2008 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

Josh opened for MBV last night in Austin... solid show!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 22:46 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

http://sickmouthy.com/2013/05/12/lift-to-experience-the-texas-jerusalem-crossroads-2001/

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:58 (thirteen years ago)


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