Restore Michael Jackson's cred with dream collaborations

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― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Merzbow?

― hstencil, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

anything but a monkey or a 14 yr old child.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Justin Timberlake, natch.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Stuart Murdoch. Revitalise two careers for the price of one, and bring both of them to fanbases they'd only dreamed of...

― kate, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I think RDJ would be better than Merzbow.

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Quincy

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Really though -- can't be done. Michael's like a black hole now, destroying anything that comes into his gravitational field.

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

MAYBE HE CAN JOIN SONIC YOUTH

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

what hstencil said. hopefully i'll have enough money to make that become a reality.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

eXtreme Elvis

― gygax!, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Spoon.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Steve Albini.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Lightning Bolt!!!!

― dead dead bird, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:41 (twenty-three years ago)

MJ needs to get together with Swizz Beats and do a cover of "Automatic" by the Pointer Sisters - but do they listen to me when I'm already at their offices at 9:00am? Do they fuck.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Or Jim O’Rourke. Whatever happens, please, for the love of God, somebody prevent him from making yet ANOTHER video where he transforms into a beastie or cavorts with criminals.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I would pay much bank for a Michael Jackson video where he transforms into Ad-Rock.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Step one: Burn down the Neverland ranch in a ritualistic cataclysm.

Step two: Hire Jaz Coleman as full-time spirtual guru.

Step three: De-camp to Hansa Studios in Berlin.

Step four: Co-erce Killing Joke drummer Big Paul Ferguson out of retirement.

Step five: Pay someone vast amounts of money to violently slay Dianna Ross and Quincy Jones. Have their skulls hollowed out and crazy-glued to the mixing desc at Hansa as inspiration.

Step six: Record an brilliantly re-realized full cover album of Slayer's classic REIGN IN BLOOD with Ferguson on drums, Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead on bass, ex-Chrome guitarist Hellios Creed on guitars with Andy Gill of Gang of Four and Jaz Coleman of Killing Joke co-producing.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

haha, Electroclash MJ... lyrics involve talking about monkey sex.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Scrap the credibility thing, but I think a really angry song against Tommy Motolla, with Fred Durst producing and on guest vocals, would be cool. Maybe backed by Puddle of Mudd. For a larf.

― wl (wl), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:07 (twenty-three years ago)

ARAB ON RADAR / MICAHEL JACKSON COLAB!

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Man the Neptunes remixes of those MJ Reign in Blood coverz are gonna be so sweeeeeeet

My own thoughts on MJ's potential rep-revival strategy are buried in a popup somewhere on Last Plane to Jakarta but I can't find it. It has to do with the Jackson 5 and a small club tour, a live band mainly consisting of former James Brown sidemen, no lighting or pyro budget, a absolute top spending limit of $500.00 per band member for clothing to last them the entire tour, and handing over composition of the setlist to Douglas Wolk, provided that Douglas shares my belief that MJ solo is totally great all the way up through Thriller.

― J0hn Darn13ll3, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:11 (twenty-three years ago)

i figured all bets were off that The Neptunes will produce something for him...Jacko is always quite behind the times. if he'd been smarter he wouldve got them to produce 'Invincible' and not Rodney Gherkins who's cred appears to have been seriously dented by the Spice Girls debacle...his crown's been half-inched by Irv Gotti

― blueski, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:12 (twenty-three years ago)

HEY YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE REALLY REALLY FUNNY?? IF WE PAIRED MJ UP WITH SOME "IRONIC" INDIE-ASS "NOISE" BAND BECAUSE WOULDN'T IT JUST BE LIKE WAY TOOOO WACKY!!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah dude! it'll get to no1. on the saudi arabia chart.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

oh humbug jess you big spoilsport curmudgeon, you

― J0hn Dan13ll3, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

boo.

― the grinch who stole indie guilt. (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

HEY YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE COOL???? IF I WAS SARCASTIC ALL THE TIME!!

TOTALLY ORIGINAL

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:26 (twenty-three years ago)

mr grinch man that karma you're earning is gonna buy you more time out there by the Pacific if you're not careful :)

and you be nice to Jess Mr Williams he is a nice guy and did not mean no harm

― J0hn Darn13ll3, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Matthew Herbert.

Or, alternately, he could go an entirely different route and collaborate with Kool Keith, do a concept album about cruising around their neighborhood in a tricked-out ice cream truck. "Mr. Hand-Out and The Glove in ... 'You Want a Popsicle, Little Boy?'"

― Dare, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 17:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck cred, he should hook up with Marilyn Manson. They already look like twin brothers, and this would be an excellent chance for Mike to cash in on his looks.

― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

HEY YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE REALLY REALLY FUNNY?? IF WE PAIRED MJ UP WITH SOME "IRONIC" INDIE-ASS "NOISE" BAND BECAUSE WOULDN'T IT JUST BE LIKE WAY TOOOO WACKY!!

PIGFUCK VS. CHIMPFUCK

― Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark E. Smith

― Chris Barrus (xibalba), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)

i know, Paul McCartney! er, uh, Mick Jagger!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 23:18 (twenty-three years ago)

prince AND madonna in the same song

― minna (minna), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 23:24 (twenty-three years ago)

or dj /rupture

― minna (minna), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 23:28 (twenty-three years ago)

no, wait, i meant AND dj /rupture

and mannie fresh

― minna (minna), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 23:29 (twenty-three years ago)

John, you wrote that in the Like Spinning Plates portion of your Amnesiac...thing.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)

the 6ths

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 00:22 (twenty-three years ago)

odd that just about no one in this thread has attempted to define/discuss/destroy 'cred'. frightening that just about everyone in this thread seems to be reading 'cred' as the championing of white over black.

― , Wednesday, 23 October 2002 00:50 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah that's exactly what we're doing.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 00:52 (twenty-three years ago)

milk, i think you overstate the case when this thread is actually just a bunch of "clever" numbskulls.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 00:54 (twenty-three years ago)

quincy? does jack klugman have cred?

― keith (keithmcl), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 01:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd love it if MJ came out and said, "Yeah, I touched the kid (although I'm still not convinced he did) and bought his silence. Whatya gonna do?" The obv. collaborator would then be Eminem, solving the white-over-black thing.

The sensible answer is, of course, fellow clever numbskulls the Neptunes.

― B:Rad (Brad), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 01:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Why doesn't he let Cornelius produce his next album?

― Ashley Andel, Wednesday, 23 October 2002 01:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Melissa! You are ace detective! I was running searches on the site and couldn't find what I was remembering and I thought I was going crazy.
Heard "Pyramid Song" on the radio today -- so totally weird to hear those songs after the total-immersion thing I was doing with them for so long.

obMJ: he should wear a Wolfman mask from now on and refuse to offer any explanation at all.

― J0hn Darn13ll3, Wednesday, 23 October 2002 01:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Michael Jackson and Jess together on one single -- now that would be perfect.

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 01:54 (twenty-three years ago)

he already is the most interesting guy in xxth century pop music. I'd welcome from him eternal silence and occasional ectoplasmatic rendez-vous with faithful 80's devotees. but the inly collaboration that could eventually make him some good is with cornelius a long time fan of the jacko.

― francesco, Wednesday, 23 October 2002 06:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Flaming Lips would be good - no this is not some fuckin' lame-arsed ironic quip - I actually think it'd be extremely cool - *cough*Jody*cough*

― Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 06:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Alex in NYC had some bold ideas, but I don't think they'll work as is, but maybe with some tweaking we can retrieve him. The major point to remember is that he is $200 million in the hole. He has to work cheap. And maybe if he were lean and hungry again, he'd make something worth listening to.

Step one: Burn down the Neverland ranch in a ritualistic cataclysm.
Real Step One: Sell Neverland to Disney. Turn it into a theme park. (Michael will have to move into a one bedroom studio apartment. Yes he will. If you were $200 million in debt, you wouldn't be able to afford the mortgage or property taxes on such a spread either.)
Step two: Hire Jaz Coleman as full-time spirtual guru.
Real Step Two: HIRE AN ACCOUNTANT...A BIG, MEAN ONE!
Step three: De-camp to Hansa Studios in Berlin.
Real Step Three: He can't afford the plane ticket or the lessons in how to speak German. Motowns recording studios are still in California, he could bum a ride.
Step four: Co-erce Killing Joke drummer Big Paul Ferguson out of retirement.
Real Step Four: I don't know how this will help. I suspect he could collaborate with some hip local techno DJ with a drum machine and get something that more clearly fits MJs style. Besides, he can't afford to pay for Big Pauls services.
Step five: Pay someone vast amounts of money to violently slay Dianna Ross and Quincy Jones. Have their skulls hollowed out and crazy-glued to the mixing desc at Hansa as inspiration.
Real Step Five: Well, doing away with Diana Ross is moot, now. The damage (to MJs face) is done. MJ's head already looks like the severed, bloodless head of Diana Ross. But I disagree with Alex in NYC assessment of Quincy Jones's value. Back when MJ was working with Quincy Jones, he could do no wrong. After Bad, MJ parted ways with Quincy, and its all been downhill from there. So, no, he actually need to GET BACK IN TOUCH with Quincy.
Step six: Record an brilliantly re-realized full cover album of Slayer's classic REIGN IN BLOOD with Ferguson on drums, Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead on bass, ex-Chrome guitarist Hellios Creed on guitars with Andy Gill of Gang of Four and Jaz Coleman of Killing Joke co-producing.
Real Step Six: Okay. Alex in NYC is actually right on the mark with this. I wouldn't modify this step at all.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Custos pre-empts but:

Rod Temperton & Quincy Jones

― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Gregg Alexander. PM Dawn. Momus.

― Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Arab Strap. I wanna know what he'd come up with pished.

― Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Custos pre-empts but: Rod Temperton & Quincy Jones
Um...name sounds familiar but can't place it. Please refresh my memory: Whose Rod Temperton again?

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 18:03 (twenty-three years ago)

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Usually by the ttime your career is at the point you consider making one of those collaboration records its pretty much over. Really, how does a collaboration with Kid Rock do Willie Nelson any good (except maybe to help pay off his bills to the IRS).

Likewise, albums full of collaborations by Santana and John Lee Hooker.

― Dave Beckhouse (Dave Beckhouse), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 23:26 (twenty-three years ago)

David Bowie

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 23:46 (twenty-three years ago)

There was an interview back in the day with Beck and D'Angelo in which they discussed how Prince should be locked in a studio alone with like an out of tune piano and guitar. I think the same can be said for MJ. Both would benefit from less production and less yes men. And less songs about politics and race and record companies and more about the ladies.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 24 October 2002 01:06 (twenty-three years ago)

MJ and Toby Keith.

If he's really $200 million in the hole, forget cred: he needs to go country. Um, and a deal with NASCAR.

― Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 24 October 2002 03:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Usually by the ttime your career is at the point you consider making one of those collaboration records its pretty much over.
Hmmm. I thought it was when someone makes a Christmas album that the final messy death throes begin.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 28 October 2002 19:47 (twenty-three years ago)

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