Year-End Critics' Polls 2014

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some kind of terrible IDM with guitars

LOL, thanks

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

i'm sure actual terrible idm with guitars must already exist but i can't think who that would be

sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

oh wait radiohead

sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

RIP Atari Teenage Riot

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

imo "terrible idm with guitars" = refused

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link

ruuuuuuuuuuuuude

hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

refused rule

plus you get on that what's math punk and what's math metal thing w.like converge/refused/meshuggah/etc etc

RIP Atari Teenage Riot

― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, December 5, 2014 12:49 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i sold the LP but i stil have the not your business EP w/raverbashing on vinyl, that is pretty amazing/ludicrious now

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

Y'all critics are totally sleeping on Weird Al's Mandatory Fun. "Word Crimes" is the best song of the year!

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 5 December 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link


Midnight
No Mercy for Mayhem

Over the past few years Cleveland band Midnight has been steadily attracting new followers in the metal underground with its simple yet irresistible and very raucous blend of Motörhead’s fierce rock ‘n’ roll and the deliriously sloppy blasphemy of Venom. As brilliant as 2011’s Satanic Royalty was—and it was one of that year’s finest underground metal releases—it had many, including yours truly, wondering just what Midnight had left in the tank. After all, when you’re a one-trick pony, it’s hard to keep audiences riveted; just ask Motörhead and Venom, who’ve had their share of duds. What makes No Mercy For Mayhem so extraordinary, however, is that it’s just as intense and primal as ever, but now there’s a flashier side to the riffs, often bringing a deathpunk swagger to the proceedings, guaranteed to remind many of Norwegian greats Turbonegro. Just listen to how the crazed boogie-woogie of “Prowling Leather” segues immediately into the title track, whose slick leads are more Hanoi Rocks than Jeff Mantas. The end result is one of the most undeniably fun metal albums of the year, one that’s far more musically rich than anyone could ever have expected. Adrien Begrand

rock lives

j., Friday, 5 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

Is rock undead?

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

that sounds fun

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

(that cleveland band not being a zombie)

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

it's great ums

j., Friday, 5 December 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

(that cleveland band not being a zombie)

― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, December 5, 2014 2:08 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like a cleve rock band made up of zombies would be even more fun imo

hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

i don't have much of a theory on this but i think a lot of the metal-lives-rock-is-dead phenomenon is just down to demographics. i mean, i would like to listen to more rock music, i suppose, i listen to a lot more than i did 10 years ago, but it's hard to find things that really interest me and seem good enough, when it's of recent vintage. some combination of post-00s mainstreamification of indie, and the ongoing state of commercial rock/alt-rock/loud-rock, and the retreadism (like brad's faves hotelier - i liked that but it also seemed too one-note to me to be forgivable, for such a familiar sound), and the weird unappetizing puttering about that i find in a lot of the headline indie/rock names of the last 10 years or so… it's like they're not currently expressing feelings/existential outlooks using sounds that i wanna hear. catering too much to the sensibilities of well-heeled 25-45somethings, their lifestyle plans, etc, for one.

whereas in metal you can find more of an outright disinterest in sounding nice for indie-npr, soundtracking beer-flight tasting night at the local coffeeshop, etc.; more acknowledgement of the current shittiness of society, life in it; at least (even if obscure/incoherent) some kind of nod to class (owing to metal's long-standing disreputable status).

on the other hand, aside from its other qualities that can make it unapproachable to people who don't like noise, massive downers, etc., extreme metal just has a built-in barrier to entry with the voices, the at the very least facade of interest in eeeevil, different styles of imagery, etc. so to some extent there are rock listeners who may have been comfortable with some configurations of, i dunno, negativity/refusal in music, that cannot get with those that are more available at the moment in some metal.

j., Friday, 5 December 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

modern rock music in the popular arena = country

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

i know somedude checks for actual radio-rock, as some other critics here do. i suppose one way of putting it is that extreme metal offers some cred-cover for critics/listeners who want features of rock but can't stand for whatever reason to get them from / admit to get them from radio-rock.

j., Friday, 5 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

i'm listening to a prog metal album right now and it is barely distinguishable from radio rock

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

the last band i liked a lot that could be called radio rock was gaslight anthem, but they have gotten suckier with every album. also i guess like, NIN, who i'll always ride or die for, gets some radio play for elder-statespeople reasons, thats pretty much it

i feel like theres a decent amount of rock - regardless of whether it's technically ensconced in some subgenre like the emo revival stuff - that in theory could have fairly wide appeal but it never seems to end up there

hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

or say, the last baroness album - that record is chock full of anthems that are more or less radio-ready without sounding compromised, but i dont think any of those songs got play (correct me if wrong)

hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

the last band i liked a lot that could be called radio rock was gaslight anthem

this reminds me that i had the thought the other day that some dude might like this year's taking back sunday record

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

i think the midnight album is interesting because it's open and riffy and hooky enough somehow, even with a nice and regular vocalist-over-the-top frontman, and not much in the way of noisy/irritating technique from the band, that it hits just the right buttons for your typical rock-listener-requirements. in a way that, say, the obliterations album from this year, or the oozing wound album, don't. but his vocals are juuuuust snarling/tortured enough to seem a little OTT / affected / playacty / indecorous if you're thinking that rock music should, like, be ok to have on at your independent coffeeshop. too many customers would be, 'it felt… disturbing'.

j., Friday, 5 December 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

play where, slothrop? that album did get some critical play, and some ilm play. i actually listened to it quite a bit! but something about it made it too much of a sell/chore.

j., Friday, 5 December 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link

(and i think maybe it didn't stick enough with enough critics for the same sort of reason. lots wanted to like it, but didn't in the end?)

j., Friday, 5 December 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

oh i mean on rock radio. thats what i was talking about - that baroness has songs that are still unquestionably baroness but could in theory be liked by rock radio audiences & yet don't get airply. it got oodles of critic love and although i was not on ILX then i'm sure it was adored here

hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

*airplay. personally i fucking love that album, it was my #5 of 2012

hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

Shellac album is only on two of these lists, speaking of rock music that this noise fan can tolerate. new Six Organs is too late in this dumb spin cycle to get counted but it rocks too.

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link

chances of "Yellow & Green" producing some sort of rock radio hit were probably slim from the jump BUT whatever chance it might've had probably ended when they crashed their van in Europe a month after it came out, effectively shutting down the band for a year and a half. touring stopped (they didn't do a post-"Y&G" tour of America until late 2013!) and promotional efforts were scaled back considerably. again, it's not like you could say "that cost them a hit" but it certainly didn't help matters.

(it was my #1 album of '12, btw)

alpine static, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link

"board up the house" tho??

totally true about the auto accident. & its 1,000x better that they're alive to make new music sometime in the future than dead while their first radio hit surfaces.

hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, the Midnight album makes me smile. They were always a great band, but the way they glammed up the new songs in that sleazy Hanoi Rocks/Turbonegro way turned out to be a perfect fit.

A. Begrand, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link

modern rock music in the popular arena = country

― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, December 5, 2014

there's a little truth to this, and shame on us as a community-of-nations for not nipping-this-in-the-bud earlier.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

totally true about the auto accident. & its 1,000x better that they're alive to make new music sometime in the future than dead while their first radio hit surfaces.

― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, December 5, 2014 3:09 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This makes me sad in regards to the Exploding Hearts. Probably since I don't think they got anywhere near the radio either.

Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

Naomi Punk isn't on nearly enough of these lists

example (crüt), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

PC music and deep tech suspiciously absent from these lists too, track lists at least

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

oh fuck off with that snob act xxxp

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Friday, 5 December 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

the last band i liked a lot that could be called radio rock was gaslight anthem

this reminds me that i had the thought the other day that some dude might like this year's taking back sunday record

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, December 5, 2014 2:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah? i feel like i still have to do my homework and eventually appreciate their old stuff

Bro With Extensive Taint (some dude), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

xp what act? I genuinely believe at least 90% of contemporary country is puerile horseshit.

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

xp was responding to Daniel not you, DJP, extending the dislike to "we have all failed" is what got me riled up

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:27 (nine years ago) link

your analogy seems spot on, esp. considering I don't like much of either

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

some dude can vote for terrible idm with guitars if he wishes

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

if by which you mean extreme metal then no thanks

Bro With Extensive Taint (some dude), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link

Didn't Squarepusher do a terrible idm album with guitars a couple of years ago?

dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link

A really good rock band from this year that I just discovered through the Quietus list are Ought. Very Televisiony, a little bit of early Radiohead in there but not as prissy and moany - tougher and hungrier sounding. Check em.

dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

yeah? i feel like i still have to do my homework and eventually appreciate their old stuff

i mean their old stuff is kind of a direct antecedent to fob and mcr getting huge, so maybe you'd like it, but it's very, very emo, especially tell all your friends which imo was a template that everyone else refined. the new one is probably their least emo and most straightforward modern rock record, feels like a bunch of dudes who've written together for years just really locking into each other and crafting great songs

i am also literally the only person who feels this way about this record so idk

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

but i think you'd also like louder now which is one of the more expensive sounding mainstream emo records out there

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

where you want to be was always my fave

Mordy, Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:58 (nine years ago) link

Didn't Squarepusher do a terrible idm album with guitars a couple of years ago?

If by "with guitars" you mean "solo bass" and by "terrible" you mean "amazing" then yes.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 6 December 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

TBS are no brand new, imo, but where you want to be is aight

hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Saturday, 6 December 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link


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