Someone tell me how geto boys differ from NWA please

I think the idea that the Geto Boys could be both more tortured (flirting with insanity in their personas both on record and in real life) and cartoonish (horrorcore in places) than NWA, as stated above, is a good start.

The respective production styles were vastly different, with the GBs having a cheaper, more DIY thing going, which had its charms and could bang but never came close to Dre's best stuff.

Anyway, you could pick out about a millions MCs or crews to call out as NWA clones, and you'd be a lot closer to the truth than saying that about the GBs.

As for finding a great amount of "depth" (if I take your meaning, which I might not) in the work of either group... that seems to be besides (or against) the point.

Um...NWA had talent and the Geto Boys...er, um...didn't.

Dude, "Mind Playin' Tricks On Me" is widely superior to everything produced by N.W.A. (that might just be lyrics-based moi tho)

Custos is OTM.

now i know why ethan et. al. mocks custos so much ...

fuck anybody who doesn't like the Geto Boys

ow... my eye muscle!

-- ron (ron), Friday, October 25, 2002 8:51 PM (5 years ago)

I think NWA had a sense of their own ludicrosity that Geto Boys didn't.

Although I do love their 'Fuck 'em'/'Do it like a GO' 12" with a passion.

saw scarface last night! good shit. no live band. money & the power, seen a man die, fuck faces, smile, jesse james (which means I got to hear the man rap that life has no meaning line live).

Also when he did mind's playing tricks he said "can we do bushwick's verse? cause I wrote it!"

this thread is quite a find

would kill to see scarface live

one of the many lol statements from this thread (LOL in a GOOD way):

The Geto Boys had a midget; NWA didn't (unless you want to grant Eazy-E special midget status).

-- Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, October 28, 2002 10:19 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

just come on down man -- he'll play again sometime soon i'm sure. He was talking up his band, I bet that shit is great ---

Z-Ro live sept 5th!

xpost

chronologically:

(the always the same) Too Short,
(the always the same) Schooly D,
(the new) Ice-T (based on Schooley D),
(the new) NWA (based on Ice-T),
(the new) Geto Boys (based on NWA),
(the barely known) Ron C (based on Too Short)
(the barely known) UGK (based on Too Short)

UGK of course moved on form the Too Short knockoff days...

Also, when Ice Cube left the group in mid-87, Dre recruited D.O.C. straight from Texas as a ghost writer.

As for Southern outside of Florida, keep in mind being on a Florida label doesn't constitute being from Florida...it's just Henry Stone's Tone distribution and associated cogs were the main indie black music game in the south for years (Joe Gibbs being in the mix in Florida too, but Henry was backed by Roulette Records come 1981).

The West and the South were both inspired largely by Miami Bass's legacy throughout the late 80s, as much as the hit singles by Too Short (Freaky Tales), Ice T (6 in the Morn), and the new NWA (Boyz in the Hood/Dopeman). There was a tug of war happening for a bit, thus, "Give em Something they Can Dance to").

Shy D was from Atlanta, and his first single was 85, but on a Florida label of course. He was largely inspred by Mantronix at that time. Luke signed him from that in 86, shortly after signing the relocated 2 Live Crew from California.

Luke's true reign took hold when Pretty Tony and Sherman Neeley went to jail, shutting down Jam Packed/Music Specialists in 1986/1987. Luke's reign more or less ended when 2 Live broke up between 90 and 91 [give or take a couple of hit records after, most notably, I Wanna Rock/Doo Doo Brown and Shake Watcha Mama Gave Ya between 91 and 92].

The south became the "South" when LAFace records setup in Atlanta, backed by Arista, and hit with Damian Dame (of all things). They dabbled in Hip-Hop with the failed Highland Place Mobsters in 1992, scrapped another group, and only signed OutKast circa 1993/1994 after Organized Noize's remix of TLC hit. LA Reid was very hesitant to fuck with Hip-Hop again.

By then, The Chronic had taken hold and reshaped the South's goals overall. I'm sure ILXors get they panties in a twist, but seriously, 8Ball was doing something closer to Chronic than Booty Shakin...

That makes him twice as much of a gimmick as a hardcore gangsta rapper who mysteriously died from aids?

T'weren't nothin' mysterious 'bout it.

8Ball was doing something closer to Chronic than Booty Shakin...

-- PappaWheelie V, Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:48 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Absolutely. It's striking how much On Top of the World sounds like G-Funk by way of Memphis.

On Top of the World:The Chronic::Stax Catalog:P-Funk Axis

that doesnt make any sense as a parallel. stax predates pfunk by a decade

also, i dont recall 8ball and mjg actually sampling stax

chronic, deej. chronic...

it's different that 2 live crew

i know i'm speaking to someone in the know here.

doesnt make any sense as a parallel. stax predates pfunk by a decade

-- deej, Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

dude its a vague sonic parallel not a 1=1

bluesier southern funk vs. cleaner west coast party style

not to say stax is the real issue, but you know, memphis has its own slant, and yeah, 8ball & mjg DO sound like chronic, memphis style, when you consider the southern legacy up to that point.

texas, atlanta, and hell, even michigan & cali all were looking at 2 live crew for a long time before the chronic came around

the doc was in fila fresh crew before nwa, and that made a straight 2 live knockoff with "the nasty" circa 1987/1988

dj battlecat knockoffed dynamix ii before producing snoop

etc

the list can get lengthy, when i'm not shitfaced drunk as i am now

xtacy postings

shitfaced drunk dudes, i'm about to go out danicng...

Judging from Grip It On Another Level, Geto Boys were way more into receiving analingus than NWA

The Geto Boys had a midget; NWA didn't (unless you want to grant Eazy-E special midget status).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, October 28, 2002 3:19 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

underrated post

nwa put gangsta rap on the map, geto boys put horrorcore on the map

if they were movies, nwa = menace II society, geto boys = tales from the hood

geto boys def built off what nwa put down but so was everybody else at the time

eazy-e/nwa was some unprecedented shit

Geto Boys. Formative influence on T.I., Ludacris, 8Ball and MJG, Three 6 Mafia, UGK, Jeezy + Weezy. First southern rap group to go big. Pretty mundane content at times, kind of in league with most other gangsta rap of the time, but they could get pretty real (i.e. "My Mind's Playing Tricks on Me", "Mind of a Lunatic").
Unfortunately, also semi-responsible for horror-rap, TechN9ne, ICP and the like. Bummer.

Um...NWA had talent and the Geto Boys...er, um...didn't. The Geto Boys weren't Miami's equivalent of NWA. They were a bad knock-off of 2 Live Crew. Granted, thats not much of a goal to aspire toward, but the Geto Boys had a one-eyed midget in the band. Thats gotta count for something? Right?
Right!?

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, October 27, 2002 7:27 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark

geto boys were funnier (and NWA [esp eazy-e] were no slouches in the laff department) and scarier (mc ren never threatened to fuck a corpse).

i think N.W.A. had better production, Geto Boys had slightly better lyrics (know I'm gonna get killed for this one). Geto Boys mixed in some socio-political (albeit not very deep) content, N.W.A. did as well but really mostly just from Cube. the highs on Straight Outta Compton are higher, but I think Grip It On Another Level is more consistent.

OP slit magnet was Pappawheelie!!!

am I nuts for liking GB much more than I do N.W.A.? I mean granted they have much more to choose from, and I dunno that they released anything as good as SOC, but I like the individuals in GB better.

http://rathausartprojects.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/0080.+Geto+Boys+-+We+Cant+Be+Stopped.jpg

This CD cover was pretty crazy. They put a picture of Bushwick Bill all shot up in hospital. NWA never did that.