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i found this from an interview back in March:

"I plan to get a band," Eve said. "I definitely want an all-girl band. They can be diverse, they can be the same. I've never had a band. It'll take me awhile to get it together. I would like to explore it, just experiment.

"I don't know if they'll be on [my tour], but I would like to incorporate that because I'm just not a rapper, I'm an artist. Artistically, I feel like I've grown so much. I just love music as a whole. Hip-hop, I love pop, I love alternative, I'm trying to feed myself artistically... I've got to step it up. It has to be some other type of hip-hop. The first track we did is called 'Irresistible Bitch'. That's a Prince remake... It's hot. It's different, it's a dance track. It's definitely dance - it's not regular hip-hop, and I love it."

FUCK YES

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 October 2002 03:18 (twenty-three years ago)

(otherwise known as the "Tracer finally decides to buy the new Eve album" thread)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 October 2002 03:19 (twenty-three years ago)

plus hopefully pursuant to the above girl-band plans (!!), don't know if you caught this but Missy Elliot and Eve are going to record an album

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 October 2002 03:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I do like the sound of that plan of hers, yes. I've only heard one song of hers, though -- and I can't remember the name of it, alas, it's somewhere in the mp3 archive -- that I enjoyed. She's always come across as incredibly flat and uncompelling, and the duet with the emissary from hell Gwen Stefani was enough to make me consider detonating a few well placed nuclear bombs. Ah well.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 October 2002 03:28 (twenty-three years ago)

i knew this was a THread!

search: gotta man instrumental. anyone can freestyle over it

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 28 October 2002 03:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Well Ned as we know one person's flat and uncompelling is another's nonplussed cool. But she's more than that - she's got a burr up her butt about something (I don't think I've EVER seen a picture of her smiling!!). Half of the fun for me is seeing how much, if any, of her bottled-up venom the Scorpion's going to spill. Like k.d. lang she gives me the impression that she's got endless reserves of brute vocal power - that she, like k.d., hardly ever uses it creates a bubble of tension that I'm a sucker for, especially when it's so thoughtfully interlaced with Swizz's best beats.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 October 2002 04:12 (twenty-three years ago)

i find myself wanting to point out little things I love about her delivery, Ned, and so many of them have to do with the interplay with the music - so i guess I think of her + Swizz Beats equalling the entity we know as "Eve"... (so feel free to post things about him, too!)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 October 2002 04:21 (twenty-three years ago)

swizz best beat is the last track on the last dmx album. seriously, check it: it's some 95-era good looking/looking good shit slowed down to 33rpm.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 October 2002 04:35 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm glad swizz has given the keyboards a rest a bit

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 28 October 2002 04:36 (twenty-three years ago)

that guy even hooks up with in the 'gangsta lovin'' video is so ugly. he looks like a white black person, kind of. maybe he's just ugly. it's weird. there are way hotter guys in the video. but i guess she's really in love with him.

she's really pretty. she looks not so good with the short white hair. i like the hair down but short best. or un-bleached short hair is pretty cool, too.

look:

the second recruit!

― d k (d k), Monday, 28 October 2002 04:37 (twenty-three years ago)

the white girl looks like courtney love and kirsten dunst had a baby.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 October 2002 04:40 (twenty-three years ago)

search: braless eve in gotta man video. that took guts

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 28 October 2002 04:41 (twenty-three years ago)

it's just plain courtney love.

― d k (d k), Monday, 28 October 2002 04:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Swizz I like, actually, so why the combination of her and him does little for me is perhaps a mystery (but no more so why some Neptunes productions work for me and others fall completely flat -- and in both cases it probably has to do with which vocalists actually stand out in the end). Eve doesn't sound annoyed to me, she sounds, well, comfortable, TOO comfortable -- a stock villian role without any stretching. As a result, it's all fairly dry and dreary. I sense no reason why I have to listen when I hear her voice.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 October 2002 04:49 (twenty-three years ago)

People like Missy have all the cartoonish sound fx and that's a blast and all, but I think Eve has her own rather nuanced presence that's anything but mere blandness. She has this great smirk sort of thing where she *almost* grins and raises half of her lip. On record it sounds like a mixture of heh/huh/hmph... it somehow paradoxically expresses everything... braggadocio, dismissal, bemusement, even embarrassment (on the new album it's actually part of a chorus where a guy is sweet-talking her and succeeding).

― Honda, Monday, 28 October 2002 05:16 (twenty-three years ago)

yes the eve-noise!

tracer I bought scorpion the other week after putting 'who's that girl' on a mix and liking it, but mostly on the basis of your and sterl's enthusiasm. so far I am inclined to say something like what ned says but different. the way she sets up her tough-bitch identity seems so unrelenting to me that it's hard to see where the person is, as opposed to fronts from similar rappers. but then listening to this and searching for cracks strikes me as far more interesting because she's a woman, so even if I can't find a person I'm interested (contra ned).

― Josh (Josh), Monday, 28 October 2002 05:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, the person itself need not be there for a figure to be fascinating per se, for me at least (sounds like Josh differs on that point), but the acting of the role has to be compelling. Admittedly, if one can only notice the role and not the person, then there's a contrast that can never be appreciated -- again, if that matters.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 October 2002 05:46 (twenty-three years ago)

haha ned you're always such a vague hater

― Josh (Josh), Monday, 28 October 2002 06:01 (twenty-three years ago)

What, ya want me to just say, "Eve SUX DOOD" or something? I only do that for Rage Against the Machine and the Black Crowes. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 October 2002 06:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I just want you to spit it ned

― Josh (Josh), Monday, 28 October 2002 06:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Ew, grody.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 October 2002 06:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Josh, check out "You Ain't Gettin None" on Scorpion. Despite its convincing title it's all about chinks in the armor - she can't go more than two lines without changing her mind.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 October 2002 08:38 (twenty-three years ago)

ps to dk: thank you for the smile pic!!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 October 2002 08:42 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, the guy in the Gangsta Lovin video looks like he's just smelled somebody else's fart. i think that song is pretty lame - i love the song that Alicia's chorus steals from but Alicia just doesn't sing it with any style i don't think.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 October 2002 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

i chickened out; i didn't buy it

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 02:38 (twenty-three years ago)

"Gangsta Lovin" is bit disappointing, but I find it quite compelling because it's just about the most relentleslly saccharine hip hop track ever - those corny harpsichord riffs, the skanking guitar licks - it's like a gigantic birthday cake. It's the sort of thing you can imagine Saint Etienne making if they ever went urban. In fact I think it really reminds me of Dubstar...

Generally though the relaxed head-nodding Eve walks over the one-of-the-thugs Eve - I think my favourite moment on Scorpion is that couplet in "Let Me Blow Ya Mind" - "let your bones crack/your back pop/I can't stop" - it's so effortless, so unconcerned. Ooh also "Now why you grittin' yer teeth?" And the "ANY QUESTION???" in "Who's That Girl"... Eve's great at little soundbites.

Yeah Eve's best non-singles are "Love Is Blind", "You Ain't Gettin' None" and if "U Me & She" if that wasn't released as a single then that too. I also have a surprising fondness for her reggae ballad "No, No, No".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 04:32 (twenty-three years ago)

i downloaded 'gangsta lovin' three times and all three times it was some messed up thing where the eve part was gone! it was just the alicia keys part! over and over again! it was frustrating. but then i got the right one and it was okay.

last night i downloaded an mp3 of 'i'm real' that sounded like someone had made it with a microphone and a radio. i'm 100% sure that's what it was!

― d k (d k), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 04:53 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

i remembered the song that the Alicia Keys part is lifted from - "Don't Stop the Music" by Yarbrough and Peoples

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 13 February 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

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