convince me that House isn't dead.

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haven't heard a classic house rekkid
(deep, french, latin or otherwise) for
*months*. i have soulseek, i have kazaa,
i'm keen... so do
please point me in the right direction
and convince me house isn't going the way
the superclub.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Archigram-Carnival

Josh One-Contemplation

Underground Resistance-Transition

But I bet you'll hear these and still say house is going the direction of the superclub anyway, so I don't really know what to tell you, except that I disagree.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:14 (twenty-three years ago)

If you want I can name like 40 more, but again I feel if what you've heard in the last few months does nothing for you (knowing a bit about house as I seem to remember you doing) then nothing will. Please don't conflate dislike with the death of the scene though just because it's good copy lately.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:17 (twenty-three years ago)

House sucks. Like disco, only more obnoxious.

Callum (Callum), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Callum are you ABSOLUTELY SURE you're not Calum?

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes.

Callum (Callum), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Cosmo Vitelli Party Day
D-Note Shed My Skin
K-Klass Talk To Me
Robbie Rivera vs Billy Paul Sex

But indeed as Ronan says, if you have slowly grown to dislike the genre for whatever reason, no great tracks will convince you otherwise.

Another case like this: trance. While loads of people quickly became bored with it and considered it "dead" quickly after the 1998 revival(which I don't really condemn - especially for the non-fanatic it's easy to become bored with it), it is still going strong. Every year I expect to see the creative end of the genre (encouraged by magazines who are in their sixth? seventh? year of proclaiming that "trance is dead, long live genre X"), but the amount of quality tunes has not decreased and loads of solid and even refreshing tunes are still being made and excellent new producers emerge every year.

It's the same with house, once in a while I get bored with it, but when I look back a year later the genre is still producing its share of classic tunes, even chart hits. Its worldwide foundation has become so solid that it can't really "die" within the time frame of a few months/years (like more locally based genres like goa, jungle, uk garage or gabber/hardcore did). House will surely die but the decline will be more gradual and will take more time than everybody currently assumes, I predict.

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:47 (twenty-three years ago)

oh no am still in love with house, it's just that i've been having a bit of a non-dance phase and it seems that this year - in some way connected to miami i'm sure - all the best records were squeezed out in summer and just after. the uselessness of most of the new bootlegs, the terrible aimed-squarely-at-the-kids-ness of mixmag
(witness '100 things to do before you're 20' ...20 !!!)and the awful pisstake that is the latest bangalter tune are all makin me go anti-dance for a while. am on the case to shake it, but needing the right soundtrack.

pisces, Tuesday, 29 October 2002 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm also rather disappointed with the Bangalter/Falcon tune. Never liked "Together" either...

Shed My Skin (esp the Peter Heller mix) really stood out for me among loads of current house tracks that are good, but mostly just solid dancefloor grooves and little else. And I just love the video with the old man dancing on the beach...

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 00:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Can anybody recommend stuff in the vein of that wonderful Lawrence album? Does that stuff count as house, or no?

J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 00:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Callum are you ABSOLUTELY SURE you're not Calum?

I want this on a tee-shirt NOW.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 00:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt like that about "100 Crimes To Commit Before You're 20". As if I didn't feel alienated enough by the glossy what're-you-wearing-and-where's-it-from / say-something-embarrassing voxpop spreads of glamorous teens who've spent more on clothes, drugs and entry fees for one night than I get paid in a month. Then again I don't actually dare go clubbing because I mostly felt every bit out of place actually trying it as reading about it, so, er, I'm on the wrong thread, but looking forward to recommendations. Sorry.

Rebecca (reb), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 02:27 (twenty-three years ago)

House can't die - that's sort of its point, right? Mind you all my favourite tracks lately have been the pop ones because that's all I'm hearing. I really like that Bootsy Collins/Kelli Ali single actually.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 04:35 (twenty-three years ago)

lady, if you have to ask...

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 09:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll do a massive list as soon as I wake up.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 10:19 (twenty-three years ago)

rather you than me, ronan. i hate all this "house is dead" crap, it's like saying "pop is dead", but i'd still struggle to come up with a *huge* list of great house from the last few months. maybe 'inspiration'/'transition' u.r., 'contemplation'(king britt mix) josh one, 'skidoos' akufen, 'making it whistle' thomas fehlmann, 'falling hands' michael mayer, 'birth of 3000' los hermanos. some of those are probably older than a few months.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 10:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Richard F-Down and Dirty

Archigram-Carnival*

Thomas Vs Filterheadz-(don't know the title of this record, it may be called "Haka" but I'll find out for sure)*

Harry Choo Choo Romero-Keep Your Head Up

Medicine8-Ape Can't Kill Ape

Golden Boy featuring Miss Kittin-Rippin Kittin (X-Press 2 Remix)

Mutiny-Ya'Self

Who Da Funk-Sting Me Red

Finger Fest Inc-Auto Porno

Harry Choo Choo Romero-Corruption

Felix Da Housecat-Silver Screen Shower Scene (Les Rhythmes Digitales Thin White Duke Remix)*

Jolly Music-Jolly Radio (Agent Sumo Remix)

Agent Sumo-Why (Sumo Bass Remix)*

I could go on and on and on if I bothered to look at my blog a bit or ask what I'm forgetting. I put a star beside ones I think are shithot

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 10:47 (twenty-three years ago)

isnt age an issue here? if you're 21 now and clubbing and doing pills or whatever every weekend then you're obviously gonna feel that the general house music scene is still vibrant and fresh, as opposed to someone who's 25 or 26 and felt that way in 1997 but now doesnt go out as much and feels the quality of today's tunes and their messages do not represent a progression from 4,5,6 years ago (because this is kinda impossble anyway due to the reliance on fundamental formulas, techniques and themes in making dance - or any other kind of - music) - on the technical side dance has advanced because the technology has, but in terms of actual content and creativity its predictably locked in stasis to the point where it cant rise or fall - a natural sign of progress in itself because house is no longer innovative by default (and hasnt been for over 10 years now!) but i think people will always enjoy dance music, mainly cos it makes them dance but also for the nostalgia factor now (as with so much 70s and 80s pop) so they will always enjoy hearing things like 'Lazy' or 'Born Slippy' or 'Voodoo Ray' or 'Strings Of Life' or 'Silver Screen...' or 'La Rock' for many years to come....however it does seem to be the case that club culture is in a lull but this is also natural after it dominated thru the 90s - it may be school discos and sk8rawk clubs that are busier now but in 5-10 years time things will no doubt switch again - meanwhile somebody somewhere right now is making a fantastic and timeless house track...

blueski, Wednesday, 30 October 2002 12:10 (twenty-three years ago)

what blueski said.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 12:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Check this list out!

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 12:53 (twenty-three years ago)

that list just makes house look stale, though.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 13:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's pretty important to make the distinction between club culture and the music. And I think the key difference is in the level of attention required to really be into dance music, I think to be honest to really maintain interest you need to be either reading/downloading/buying alot or clubbing/reading/downloading/buying alot. Because it's not an album scene it's not so easy to keep a half interest going, you need to be really paying attention. I guess this is not ideal but it's the truth I think. Also I think just as getting into club orientated dance was a gradual and in some ways a difficult process, so is losing interest in it.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 15:05 (twenty-three years ago)

There's also "the big dance music divide": the critical "home listener" type who prefers the deeper, more subtle Kompakt, Warp, R&S, BPitch, Leftfield, Digweed, Underworld side of things and the clubber who gets off on banging "populist" DJ sets, either techno (Mauro Picotto, Umek), or trance (Armin van Buuren, Paul Van Dyk), or house (Robbie Rivera, Marcello, Kid Kreme), or hardhouse/hardstyle (Yoji Biomehanika, Tom Harding, Lady Dana) who all spin sets that don't work very well at home. Once they're out of the "clubbing" phase and into the "home listener" one, people's tastes hardly ever move back yet they keep their love for the old stuff (cfr the fetishisation of 1989 acid, 1991 rave and 1993 jungle I see in people of "my generation").

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

i really don't buy the concept of a "big dance music divide". a "critical home listener" versus "the clubber who gets off on banging "populist" (populist?) dj sets", siegbran. the above post looks like it was written by somebody who knows nothing about the music and, from reading many of your other posts, i know this isn't the case.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:26 (twenty-three years ago)

no siegbran has a point because i'm not a regular clubber at all (for whatever reason) and tend to prefer sets designed more for sobriety and home-listening, or at least equally to being in a club environment and dancing non-stop...i suppose this would mean they dont focus on just one style or even beat all the way through - i've had quite a few experiences in clubs where i'm totally bored because the direction of the mix does not progress or change at all

blueski, Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)

What if you like both though?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)

it's primarily the distinction between "critical" and "populist" that concerns me. it's a big whopping red herring. that and the rigidity of taste you allude to. also, digweed isn't populist then who is?

blueski - maybe that's because you're not 'in to it' and i don't mean that facetiously.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the real divide is between non subtle dance artists who make albums, ie the big 5 or so of Chems, Leftfield, Orbital, Daft Punk, Basement Jaxx to a lesser extent, and the one off singles which make up DJ sets.

It is possible to like both, but we have to accept there are loads of dance fans who will never know the latest club hits unless they enter the charts.


(Also I've never bought this notion of things not working well at home, I realise things have their context but I decide what I want to listen to because of what I feel like listening to, not what I want to feel like)

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:43 (twenty-three years ago)

define "non subtle", ronan.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Less reliance on repetition, more defined sounds, ie you're listening to a Chemical Brother's album, it's all the Chemical Brothers, it's not in the context of a mix, and it's not necessarily meant to peak or level off in the same way club dance tunes would. Also not as hard, and generally speaking not as dark either.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)

So I guess it's not solely the music, but the format also, nonetheless there's a gulf there anyway, I don't think any albumdance fan is going to get straight into clubbing, I know I loved the Chems et al and it took me ages for lots of the tunes to hit me.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)

that sounds like a suspiciously rockist angle to me. ;)

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)

It is possible to like both, but we have to accept there are loads of dance fans who will never know the latest club hits unless they enter the charts.

but how easy is it to know all the tracks being played out anyway?

this thing about albumdance is puzzling also. it might be that i've never really thought of chemical brothers as dance music (i suppose underworld and orbital its easier to see, but i dont really get to hear that kind of stuff very often - although i did buy a couple of orbital records recently, and liked them too!)

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

As long as there are people with no imagination, there will be house. House music ain't dyin'.

Callum (Callum), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

As long as there are people with no imagination, you'll always have somewhere to FUCK OFF to Callum.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 19:36 (twenty-three years ago)

It *is* possible to like both, but I notice that I need to change my mindset completely when listening to an all-out banging Cosmic Gate hardtrance set at home, and so to say "imagine I'm in a club", while I can appreciate a Michael Mayer mix much more easily in a relaxed state, paying attention to the (I know, pass the bucket) "delicate details". I generally have lots more fun dancing to whatever blunt floorfiller stuff is played at the main stage than to the Fila Brazilia, Kompakt or Warp material the chill out room DJ is playing.

And if that's rockist, well so be it. It's no different to me than the difference between listening to a Motorhead live recording and a Love Spirals Downwards album. It's very possible to like both, but it does take a totally different approach. And these bands do attract a significantly different audience.

And my 2 cents re: Chemical Brothers: I was always puzzled why they were so popular/critically acclaimed with the debut (which I still think is boring as hell), but a few years later "Block Rocking Beats" and "Hey Boy Hey Girl" did win me over.

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 19:57 (twenty-three years ago)

well i am really into dance music and always have been but i'm not much of a clubber (not for want of trying!) - in 96/97 i couldve told you all the big club tunes from house certainly - but i'm getting older now and i have lost touch with it a bit - party cos the idea of weekly clubbing never came to fruition for me so it was natural for my interest to wane in that sense - this coupled with the ageing process of the genre results in the sense of disillusionment perhaps...and its certainly more convenient for me to just keep tabs on chart friendly but totally cred 'career-dance' acts like Basement Jaxx, Daft Punk and Roger Sanchez rather than spend hours in record shops flicking thru white labels and counting on Mixmag, DJ and radio shows to keep in touch...tho i will do that from time to time still

blueski, Wednesday, 30 October 2002 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I own no records!!!! (sadly)

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 20:13 (twenty-three years ago)

It's no different to me than the difference between listening to a Motorhead live recording and a Love Spirals
Downwards album.

Hey, I can go with that comparison. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 October 2002 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Luomo
"She-Center" is a good example/.

dsico (dsico), Thursday, 31 October 2002 04:12 (twenty-three years ago)

re: the home listener vs outthere (no not the bros) divide, I find that I've been choosing to listen to a bunch of more "cerebral" (but no less funky) continental stuff at home or while working. Then when I'm out, or listening to a mix on the car radio, then I'm blown away by more standard "house". In fact, when in the car, I often listen to the Naked Music compilations which are pretty much old school deep vocal house (but produced to an ultra glossy sheen). House will never die because it's easy to make, sounds terrific, and there's a constant hunger for it. Also, remixes of whatever the base-track is will shoehorn it into various sub-genre mixes.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 31 October 2002 05:25 (twenty-three years ago)

although yeah, there's really no Groovejet or "One More Time" this year. "Lazy" was the closest thing, but it's missing something.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 31 October 2002 05:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm glad there wasn't - those tunes were really overplayed. Although, what about Galleon So I Begin, Tim Deluxe It Just Won't Do or even Madhouse Like A Prayer?

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 31 October 2002 10:08 (twenty-three years ago)

just 'cause madhouse has house in the name don't make it house.

michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 31 October 2002 10:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Come on, it's just a "legalized" version of the bootleg of Black Legend "You See The Trouble With Me" (if that's not house, what is?) and the Madonna acappella.

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 31 October 2002 10:42 (twenty-three years ago)

black legend, possibly, in that it transposes "house of god" and an old barry white tune but "like a prayer" isn't house, no way. it's just euro dance-pop that perhaps betrays the influence of house but so does a lot of other music right now.

michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 31 October 2002 10:59 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, it has nothing to do with actual house music - the only DJs playing that MadHouse track are working in holiday camps and mobile discos for 7 year olds birthdays...the density of that Black Legend beat on their track was kinda cool on first few hearings tho

blueski, Thursday, 31 October 2002 11:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I know it's a bit stretching (note the "or even Madhouse"). Somehow I really, really liked the original bootleg (and that's not even something a "serious" house DJ would spin) and think the Madhouse version sucks bigtime, it at least has some vague claim to actual houseness (handbag house revival!).

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 31 October 2002 11:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Siegbran are you positive Madhouse is actually a boot of the Black Legend thing? I have my doubts. It's very like it but only because of that one distinctively metallic sounding bleep. I quite liked Black Legend, as a decent enough radio house tune.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Holy shit Ronan is so right about the Cosmos track! Both the vocal and instrumental versions are just unbelievably blissful. When the central riff explodes (complemented perfectly by those ethereal bleep counterpoints) I involuntarily screw up my eyes and shake my head from side to side in the middle of studying. Surpasses even Shakedown's "At Night" for sheer rushiness (though I don't think it's as good pop).

This is sort of the ultimate in the current mainstream club style, isn't it? The hallucinatory intensity of the bittersweet central riff is straight from French house, but the spangly pristineness of it all is pure tech-house, while at the same time its going for X-Press 2 sized anthem-level ubiquity. Really though what this reminds me of most forcefully are the really old ethereal-balearic masterpieces - Orbital's "Lush", "Papua New Guinea" etc.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 1 November 2002 03:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Holy shit Ronan is so right about the Cosmos track!

hey, i've been trying to tell everyone about that tune for months, too.

*sulks*

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 1 November 2002 09:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Siegbran are you positive Madhouse is actually a boot of the Black Legend thing?

Originally, it was a bootleg of the Black Legend track and the Madonna acappella (credited to "Erdbeerlimes" sometimes, if you search for "Madonna vs Black Legend" you can find it quite easily on any P2P network). It was a huge success on the floors in 2001, so a couple of clever producers (I'm too lazy to find out who) hired some girl to sing new vocal track, and sequenced a new instrumental underneath that was as close to the BL groove as they gould get without getting sued. Voila, Madhouse.

They did the exact same thing with the follow-up Holiday BTW.

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 1 November 2002 13:41 (twenty-three years ago)

siegbran your laziness in not finding out who they are is no match for the laziness of their work...its the kinda thing that really pisses me off but dunno why really - they might make a bit of money from it but they're the eurodance equivalent of Hearsay and co in that their life expectancy as an act is so short...i'm still wondering where Sash and Alice Deejay are - but i see DJ Quiksilver has a new track out - who'd have thought it?!

blueski, Friday, 1 November 2002 13:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Madhouse probably read Bill Drummond's The Manual...anyway, Sash has a single with Boy George on vocals out now, I believe. Alice Deejay is history AFAIK (good riddance!).

Apparently the UK didn't catch the Ameno (Mauro Picotto ripoff with Era vocals) and Boombastic (Shaggy through the Eurodance mincer) Quicksilver singles last year?

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:10 (twenty-three years ago)

mustve missed those, i'm more concerned about the Audio Bullies/Ashanti bootleg/mix i heard Lamacq play the other night - WTF?!

blueski, Friday, 1 November 2002 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim I was waiting for you to go nutso over that record! Michael deserves props for knowing it also, there were some long dark times, particularly when I started a thread and noone answered, that was a black day for me but I pulled through in the end.


Yeah when it kicks in is amazing, the greatest whoooooooooooosh noise in house music in years, the whole song seems to just burst out of the speakers and pour all over the room. Wait till you hear it in a club Tim, it's a great record on any soundsystem but it really really really seems to bounce on proper club speakers.


"At Night" is certainly the poppier of the too, I'm not sure even the vocal remix of Take Me With You really works as a pop track, I think it's a track where you need to have a love for the sonics involved, and the vocal is simply riding in that vehicle really, I can imagine people hearing it on the radio and just not getting it, I can imagine if I heard the vocal version first it could easily slip by.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I heard "Take Me With You" early this year, but didn't have a clue how it was titled, so I had to refer to it as "that bleepy electrohouse track". Found out it was Middleton only a month or two ago. Could this be the start of a whole flood of soundalike tracks?

Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 2 November 2002 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)

""At Night" is certainly the poppier of the too, I'm not sure even the vocal remix of Take Me With You really works as a pop track, I think it's a track where you need to have a love for the sonics involved, and the vocal is simply riding in that vehicle really, I can imagine people hearing it on the radio and just not getting it, I can imagine if I heard the vocal version first it could easily slip by."

This is exactly what I thought actually. The Roachford vocal is fine and doesn't harm the song, but there's no reason to listen to it when you can just go straight to the longer instrumental version.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 2 November 2002 12:38 (twenty-three years ago)

could this be the start of a whole flood of soundalike tracks


I think Carnival is a bit like it actually Siegbran.

I have to say I love the vocal remix, but the instrumental already was one of my favourites this year when I first heard it.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

haha, i donwloaded the cosmos track (instrumental) because of this thread, and the first time i heard it it came on winamp directly after 'comfortably numb' by the scissor sisters. i seriously thought that whoever made scissor sisters an mp3 had left the record player running and the next track from the record had accidently been included on the mp3.

minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
haven't heard a classic house rekkid
(deep, french, latin or otherwise) for
*months*.

"otherwise" seems to be doing fine, but deep, french and latin look a bit tired these days

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 06:04 (twenty-one years ago)

for french/latin crossover, you need david guetta's essential mix, my friend. i agree deep house is sort of in a lull but after several years of straight killing it that's to be expected.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)

god i was bang into my dance, proper dance, big anthems, chooons when i started this. i miss those days. i think lost a stone dancing that summer (sigh).

piscesboy, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

This seems like the most appopriate thread in which to complain about not having heard the white label version of Cosmos's "Take Me With You" until this week. The looping vocals from Madonna's "Everybody" in the second half take it to a whole 'nother level! Even more amazing than before!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

if people weren't concerned with being cool, they'd call the Isolee album House. To me, House is not just a feeling but a tempo range and beat structure. I classify any 4/4 track from 120-126 bpm's House, give or take a beat. House isn't dead, it's just being called a bunch of different things right now since it's not "cool" to like House music.

biz, Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

hey there, wtf is up with the mathias aguayo (sp?!) remix of mayers Lovefood, the one whee he sings kylies "slow" over the top! sorry, tims madonna tune reminded me of that. has anyone talked about it? i couldnt work out whether to buy it or not.

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I bought the Lovefood/Slow 12" though it's a bit disappointing as a purchase if you're not a DJ - the original "Lovefood", the remix (also on the Superpitcher Mix) and then the remix with the "Slow" vocals on top.

The vocal version might end up on Total 6.

Biz, everyone calls Isolee house.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 23 June 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

http://stat.discogs.com/R/36371-001.jpg

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)


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