Ross Robinson to produce The Cure

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Yes, that Ross Robinson (Korn, Limp Bizkit, ATDI, etc.) and yes, that Cure. Read about it.

Ross is infamous for making bands cry during recording sessions, so this will end up being his easiest job yet!

And I can't wait to hear The Cure with a five-string bass!

This is just great all around!

Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 1 November 2002 17:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dan & Ned's righteous indignation to thread!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 1 November 2002 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Robinson: "Louder and in a lower key, ye snivveling limey cocksuckers!"
Smith: "Er, Um...now lissen here, my good man...we shan't be spoken to in that tone of voice."
Robinson: "Ehhhhhhhhh Sheddeppp...or i'll set yer hair on fire."
Smith: "Good Heavens...noooooooo!"

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Friday, 1 November 2002 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually I'm not surprised by this; I think Robinson said something a couple of years back about how he really loved the Cure and a lot of other eighties post-punk UK acts, and conversely was sick of nu-metal. It could be fun! Let's see what happens.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 November 2002 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

An odd choice to be sure.

I'm more mystified as to why the Cure have recruited him. Does Robert really think he can capture the imagination of today's youth (let alone one's of the meatnecked nu-metal contingent)?

Robinson did produce the decidedly non-Nu-metal, At the Drive-In, which is not to say that ATDI sound anything like the Cure, but more that Robinson is capable of working with acts that don't hunch over at acute angles when they play their guitars or wear furry Kangol hats.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 1 November 2002 18:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe the Cure are looking to break into the rap-nu-metal-audience. I'd still prefer Steve Albini Producing Depeche Mode..

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 1 November 2002 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

And I can't wait to hear The Cure with a five-string bass!

Was the six-string bass too much?

Custos is way off the mark, it would be more like:

Robinson: "Louder and in a lower key, ye snivveling limey cocksuckers!"

Smith: "You obnoxious twat. Why don't you fuck off?[1]"

Robinson: "What? What did you say?."

Smith: "Right, that's it. Roger, hold my lager. Simon, grab his arms!" (pummels Robinson repeatedly)

[1] Translated from RS Mumblese.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 November 2002 18:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does Robert really think he can capture the imagination of today's youth (let alone one's of the meatnecked nu-metal contingent)?

I doubt he cares about 'today's youth' as such -- he essentially told Elektra to farewell and fuck off once he wrapped up the contract with them via the hits disc last year, along with trashing American record companies in general, while the band can still draw sizable crowds when touring (played two outdoor ampitheatre shows for Bloodflowers in LA alone despite the record barely registering on the charts).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 November 2002 18:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

The band can still draw sizable crowds when touring (played two outdoor ampitheatre shows for Bloodflowers in LA alone despite the record barely registering on the charts).

Yeah, but Styx can say the same.

Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 1 November 2002 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

b-b-but they said Bloodflowers was going to be their last album! And that this was their last tour for sure!

Seriously, though, I thought I was going to be full of righteous indignation but actually I find that I don't give a shit. I'm a huge fan and I have faith, pardon the play on words.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 1 November 2002 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, but Styx can say the same.

I'm sure they can. Hey, their fans are happy with that, I'm happy with this! More Cure = a good thing. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 November 2002 19:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Smith: "Right, that's it. Roger, hold my lager. Simon, grab his arms!" (pummels Robinson repeatedly)
But Smith is a Lover, not a Fighter!

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Friday, 1 November 2002 20:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Since when????

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 November 2002 21:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ross Robinson is my friend Janie's nephew. She says he's a lovely young man.

Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 1 November 2002 21:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's settled then!

Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 1 November 2002 22:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

nothing could be as awful as wild mood swings.
bloodflowers was damn good tho.

what ever happened to the robert smith solo album?


kephm, Saturday, 2 November 2002 01:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have righteous indignation just for the fact that this is happening at ALL, let alone the fact that it's with this particular producer....if this is true. I mean, how many times is he going to threaten that "this is our last album" and then not hang it the fuck up? I suppose that's the point, though...it's the industry's longest running joke by now, innit?

As for Smith being a lover, Custos, obv you're forgetting the Pornography sessions, which were apparently huge melees involving copious amounts of both alcohol and contusions.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 02:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

What's the difference between a Robert Smith solo album and a Cure album anyway? Does Simon Gallup really add the much to the creative process?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 2 November 2002 02:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Go listen to The Top or Japanese Whispers again, Alex, and then ask that question again after listening to the groovy bass noises on said albums.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 02:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm not saying Simon Gallup is a talentless goob, but the songs all seem to be penned by Smith. Am I wrong about that?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 2 November 2002 03:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually, if you read the credits, most albums have co-shared writings credits with the entire band (at the time). About the only straight up Smith and Smith-only album is The Head on the Door, I think.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 03:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmmm. I suppose I jumped to that conclusion because the line-up keeps changing (with the exception of Gallup....and even he went missing in the mid-80's).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 2 November 2002 04:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

It seems that Smith is toying with the idea of releasing his solo effort at the same time as this new Cure album (Vieilles Charrues press conference, July 20th, 2002);

"Putting my solo album out with the Cure album is because there's been so much speculation about it, it's been going on for so long, that if I put it out as a solo album, people will think "That's fucking awful". It's like it can't possibly be as good as people think it's going to be. So if it's free with the next Cure album, then people will think...if they don't like it then it doesn't matter, and if they do like it, they'll be getting two good albums for one. The real reason is that it takes all the pressure off me to feel...I've talked and talked about it, and I've been really worried that I'll bring it out and people will sort of go "Is that it?", you know, cause it happens all the time, you hear about an album and it's like, and then you hear it and it's like, it's fucking awful. For me it's kind of a way round a problem, cause I still get to release it, but it's no longer like, you know. And also I suppose, very importantly, I wouldn't have to promote it and I don't really want to do solo stuff"

Of course we can't ever *really* believe anything the man says in interviews...

Paz, Saturday, 2 November 2002 04:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned,

Smith always wrote all the songs and made all the decisions regarding the direction of The Cure. There was a passage in 10 Imaginary Years that said something to the effect that "Democracy in the Cure meant that everyone did it my way, and we all shared in the writing credits."

If you look at it, The Cure has not been a real band since Michael Dempsey was kicked out before the Faith sessions. It was pretty much Robert Smith and Lawrence Tolhurst, the latter being kept around as an object of abuse. The line up shifted often throughout the 80's whenever studio work or touring was necessary.

I really loved The Cure when I was 12-14. Even then, the shtick started running thin. I really have no idea what they did after the released Wish. That album pretty much ended any fandom I had for them.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 4 November 2002 07:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

bollox.quit while you're ahead grandad.and that was bout 10years ago.

esiotrot, Monday, 4 November 2002 09:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Go listen to The Top or Japanese Whispers again, Alex, and then ask that question again after listening to the groovy bass noises on said albums."

I don't think Simon Gallup played on any of those albums. I know he didn't play on Japanese Whispers.

Torstein Dyrnes (Toshy), Thursday, 14 November 2002 13:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

_Japanese Whispers_ is almost all Robert Smith, but Andy Anderson and Phill Thornally left their mark all over _The Top_.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 November 2002 18:23 (twenty-one years ago) link


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