Most embarrassing overpraise of the just released 'Ears' album on Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith thread

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i like this album too, but come on now.

Poll Results

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we looked at each other and wondered aloud how we were going to put on another album after this one. 14
a cornucopia of wondrous sound, and i'm excited to have it accompany my life in these next few spring and summer months.7
I'm going to have to download this and go and sit quietly in a forest with it for a while. 4
I'm only 2 songs in, and I'm already lost and disoriented and amazed in all the best ways. 2
this is such a gift 2
The Philip Glass-esque "pa-pa-pa-pa-pa" vocals meets slithering insect noises ... just exploded my brain. 2
"Existence In The Unfurling" is a perfect piece of music, the way those glassy melodies spiral and leap acros 0
Her new album is a bloody masterpiece BTW. One of the best things released so far this year. 0
There's this organic pastoral quality to her sound that's very unique and it's wonderful 0
ended up listening to it 6 times today, and it's not even knocking-off time 0
This is astonishing and beautiful, it's probably my favourite record of the year so far. 0
this one is straight-up gold though, and it arrived on the most perfect spring morning too. 0
...on this one, the tone-cluster harmonisations are unmissable and completely magical. 0
Need to recall my 'great' about the new one and issue an 'absolutely fucking amazing' in its place 0


Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Somewhere on this site I saw the phrase "I Love Music" and thought it was a little heavy handed. I mean, come on!

Evan, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:32 (one year ago) Permalink

When I'm this desperate for attention, I call my mom.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:32 (one year ago) Permalink

we looked at each other and wondered aloud how we were going to put on another album after this one.

lol

ejemplo (crüt), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:33 (one year ago) Permalink

corny-ass thread whiney

marcos, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Lame.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:35 (one year ago) Permalink

should have posted it on a more perfect spring morning, I guess

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:35 (one year ago) Permalink

i love this album and have had my differences with mr. weingarten in the past but still, lol

Treeship, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:36 (one year ago) Permalink

None of these are that bad... the last three are a tad precious, I suppose.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:36 (one year ago) Permalink

I wonder if noted Anglophile Whiney J Weingarten might possibly have misinterpreted the phrase "knocking off time" BTW.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:37 (one year ago) Permalink

hahahahahaha

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:37 (one year ago) Permalink

whiny-ass thread corney

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:38 (one year ago) Permalink

whiney knows which team he's on

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Are you going to do this for the King thread as well? It seems only fair.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:39 (one year ago) Permalink

went with the cornucopia of wondrous sound.

Treeship, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:39 (one year ago) Permalink

wow, maybe i should listen to this album

diana krallice (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:42 (one year ago) Permalink

Intensely positive reactions = dorky
Intensely negative reactions = cool

Evan, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:42 (one year ago) Permalink

xps who would want to be on your team? Even the guy who literally hates everything that makes life joyful wouldn't have you. (Though maybe that means you're something that makes life joyful.)

I don't like this album. I just want to fill weingarten's endlessly empty ego-hole. Here's a squirt.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:43 (one year ago) Permalink

It's like being slowly fellated in a woodland glen by a beautiful unicorn.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:44 (one year ago) Permalink

How does that even work? Considering the horn...

Evan, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:45 (one year ago) Permalink

Intensely positive reactions = dorky
Intensely negative reactions = cool

― Evan, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:42 AM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read
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human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:46 (one year ago) Permalink

obviously all this is achieving is improving the record's profile on ilm and eventual eoy placement, but what is ilm if not the battleground of ideas *nobly genuflects to this album's ermine-cloaked sonicopolis, through which lysergic paramounts fire fletches of purest vernal agape*

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I hope LJ is not complaining about someone else embarrassingly overpraising an album.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Getting territorial there.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:52 (one year ago) Permalink

wait is whiney the guy who works for a magazine whose ostensible purpose at this late stage is to give bono a tender rimjob every time u2 shart out a new record?

real orgone kid (NickB), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:03 (one year ago) Permalink

however are we going to deal with the embarrassing overpraise of calling an album the best in 4 months

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:04 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm astonished whiney is even aware of this album, since when does he give a shit about ambient electronic producers?

cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:14 (one year ago) Permalink

however are we going to deal with the embarrassing overpraise of calling an album the best in 4 months

Technically three months, let's not go overboard here.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:15 (one year ago) Permalink

great thread

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:22 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm astonished whiney is even aware of this album, since when does he give a shit about ambient electronic producers?

― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Part of the bravery on tone policing is that you have to patrol neighborhoods you wouldn't necessarily willingly venture into otherwise.

Evan, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:28 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm also astonished (in a good way) that so many people seem to be into it, i had literally never heard the name before the ilm poll and am yet to see the name outside of ilm

cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:30 (one year ago) Permalink

A+ thread

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:39 (one year ago) Permalink

the choice is obvious, i feel - the last one

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:39 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, that's the only one i was sorry to have read

Keks + Nuss (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:44 (one year ago) Permalink

because obv one just plays the album over again, duh

Brad C., Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:45 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3li_aZWt-r0

akm, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 19:08 (one year ago) Permalink

Ha, I had assumed that some of these were meant as parody on the original thread.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:21 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm not embarrassed at all. When I love something this much I guess cheese gushes out of my pores. Deal with it. Totally voted for my own overpraise, too.

octobeard, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 01:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Most embarrassing thing about being a "professional" "music" "critic", part 8,749:

Having lived inside the self-perpetuated hype cycle for so long that they have lost the ability to tell Hype from sheer joy.

In fact, Whiney, at your point in this game, I think you have lost the ability to even recognise, let alone experience actual joy - through music or anything else - that you feel the need to exterminate it on sight in others.

I'm not the slightest bit embarrassed for myself, but I feel painfully embarrassed for you. Please give up. I think ILX, and indeed the world, would be better for it.

Sehr Kornisch (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 11:44 (one year ago) Permalink

I already elected not to click on any of the sneery blowhard's links in future on account him thinking there is still comedic currency in the word "retard", but fuck him for this worthless shitiness as well.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 11:52 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm also astonished (in a good way) that so many people seem to be into it, i had literally never heard the name before the ilm poll and am yet to see the name outside of ilm

― cher guevara (lex pretend)

actually the lead review in the electronica section of this months mojo reviews is this album.

mark e, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 12:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Mojo has an 'electronica' section?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 12:27 (one year ago) Permalink

After they reviewed 'EARS' the editors looked at each other and wondered aloud how they were going to review another electronica album after this one.

Tim F, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 12:32 (one year ago) Permalink

that's how i feel after finishing any piece of writing

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 12:41 (one year ago) Permalink

or you know just rising for a new day

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 12:42 (one year ago) Permalink

Mojo has an 'electronica' section?

from time to time, yup.

mark e, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 12:43 (one year ago) Permalink

or you know just rising for a new day

― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, April 6, 2016 8:42 AM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cause every day prior is just the GREATEST?

Evan, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 13:25 (one year ago) Permalink

In fact, Whiney, at your point in this game, I think you have lost the ability to even recognise, let alone experience actual joy - through music or anything else - that you feel the need to exterminate it on sight in others.

for the record: while this curmudgeonly WHOGIVESASHIT.jpeg is certainly a facet of whiney's online persona, I can tell you from numerous experiences seeing him out at concerts over the years that he very rarely experiences good live music with anything less than fervent ecstacy

ulysses, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:34 (one year ago) Permalink

whiney's reviews are more "the music is so badass because blah blah" and less about "the music makes me feeeel" imo.

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:36 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah I don't think whiney doesn't recognize joy, I think he's just a bit overly concerned with cool-policing. Like that guy in school who worried too much about whether someone he associated with was a poser or a dork, and made sure to vocally disassociate himself with any detection of mindless trend following or dorky behavior that embarrassed him given other cools might be watching and judging.

Evan, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:51 (one year ago) Permalink

it wasn't a 800 post thread w/ nothing but hyperbolic praise from anyone on ILM and even if it was i think it is a bad look whiney to choose THIS particular album to do your corny-ass cool policing routine

marcos, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:03 (one year ago) Permalink

branwell otm btw

marcos, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:04 (one year ago) Permalink

when i first read whiney's thread title i irl lol'd, thus therefore in turn, WGW contributed to rather than detracted from my joy

Forever LI (rip van wanko), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:04 (one year ago) Permalink

marcos otm

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:05 (one year ago) Permalink

whiney you also happened to choose an album by a woman in a genre dominated w/ artists and fans who are mostly dudes, nice work!

marcos, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:06 (one year ago) Permalink

not surprised really though that you didn't get the shitty optics of doing that

marcos, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:07 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah whiney woke up with the idea to find an overhyped album to lampoon, but made sure it was a woman in a male dominated field because he's evil, this is what happened marcos

Forever LI (rip van wanko), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Reading is hard

Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:12 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah whiney woke up with the idea to find an overhyped album to lampoon, but made sure it was a woman in a male dominated field because he's evil, this is what happened marcos

― Forever LI (rip van wanko), Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:11 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just the idea that this albums is "overhyped" because a dozen posters are praising it is just ............... so fucking stupid

marcos, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:13 (one year ago) Permalink

not saying whiney is evil, i've enjoyed his writing/presence elsewhere, he just looks like a fucking idiot for this imo

marcos, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:14 (one year ago) Permalink

you an idiot for this one, whiney

Mordy, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:15 (one year ago) Permalink

this album is good, this thread is funny, everybody wins imo

adam, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:16 (one year ago) Permalink

and really? you don't see how singling out a woman in a male-dominated field and calling her "embarassingly overpraised" is shitty and a bad look whether or not you are "evil"?

marcos, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:16 (one year ago) Permalink

xps

marcos, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:16 (one year ago) Permalink

we looked at each other and wondered aloud how we were going to post on another thread after this one.

ejemplo (crüt), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:17 (one year ago) Permalink

this album is good, this thread is funny, everybody wins imo

I imagine not if you are one of the people who we're being encouraged to point and snigger at.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:18 (one year ago) Permalink

People should really ask Whiney's permission before posting Spotify playlists enthusiastic praise for new music.

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:18 (one year ago) Permalink

luckily my praise on the initial thread was mild enough to avoid becoming a poll option. but if the ultimate purpose of endlessly talking about music on the internet for 15 fucking years is to encourage habits of self-interrogation that help us understand that music and our reactions to it more completely, whiney's public-shaming caprices are just as useful as collective overpraise parties or discussions about diversity and representation or dismissive pile-ons. and they're usually entertaining.

adam, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:23 (one year ago) Permalink

he was poking fun at the reaction by people on that thread not the music or the artist. He said he likes it ffs.

Odysseus, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:24 (one year ago) Permalink

idk what whiney himself gets out of this but idc either

adam, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, public-shaming, that's really useful.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Shame me next, I need it.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:27 (one year ago) Permalink

BTW and FWIW, I had never heard of this artist before but the enthusiastic praise being polled here has piqued my interest. So it's like even though the Vietnam War was a shitty, pointless, mean-spirited clusterfuck, at least something cool like Apocalypse Now happened in its aftermath.

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm definitely checking her stuff out now!

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Branwell otm

Whiney this is a long-standing ~thing~ with you-- shaming people for liking female-shaped music-- that my subconscious started to tally when to when you starting hurling Twitter insults at My Brightest Diamond of all people, whose music I don't care for, but think it's a really fucked up think to save your grenades for, and then I started noticing there were zero women or queers on your end-of-year lists, and read your thoughts on HIV+ people having sex, etc. etc. etc.

I don't think you're a bad person so much as highly representative of cluelessness, same as when you post about how "Spike Lee has never made a bad film" the same day as excited posts about your favourite new gentrifying banh mi boîte

got a long list of ILXors (fgti), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Like the only woman you stanned for, literally, in 2014, was "hey guys you'll never believe it but I love this St. Vincent record" like holy shit Whiney likes something a woman made, I am not making this up

Also "let me relate to you a list of all the queers and women I stan for on 77" no, please stan for them publicly

got a long list of ILXors (fgti), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:37 (one year ago) Permalink

this album is good, this thread is funny, everybody wins imo
--adam

^ gets it

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:39 (one year ago) Permalink

marcos is otm as str8 fire here, so is branwell, whiney can def be a cool dude IRL but it severely bums me out that he clings so relentlessly to this fun-sucking shithead ~online persona~ and insists over and over that it's fun and enjoyable when virtually everyone else details why it's really rotten, mean-spirited, sometimes hurtful, etc. there is such a bizarre refusal to self-analyze and it's v tired but also v predictable; swift dismissals of anyone's concerns (regardless of how severe) abound.

also singling out this album is just bizarre, like why on earth this album from this person right now? ppl have been operating like this and getting rly excited abt shit on ilm for literally a decade, this is totally par for the course

over the past year or so I've tried to check myself when I feel an impulse to shit on ppl's joy when I deem it naff or embarrassing and it's made me a much happier person.

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:39 (one year ago) Permalink

fgti and bleatballs, what the fuck are you even babbling about?!

A) I... Don't have an opinion on HIV+ having sex? Why would I have any informed opinion on that?

B) My top 75 last year had Beatriz Ferrarya, Rhiannon Giddens, Sarah Neufeld, JLIN, Matana Roberts, Mary Halverson, Miley Cyrus, TanyaTagaq, Jasmine Sullivan, Fifth Harmony, Carly Rae Jepsn and Noveller

http://1000timesyes.tumblr.com/post/136882457429/cleaning-out-my-closet-the-top-75-records-of-2015

How that's woke and bae enough for you, and go fuck yourself sideways you moron

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Learning and growing as people, together.

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Also my number one Pazz and Jop record in the year I supposedly only liked St Vincent was MIRANDA LAMBERT

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:52 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, but you suck

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:55 (one year ago) Permalink

For those of you who have wondered why people rarely start threads about new records these days... it's because people still start threads like this bullshit.

emil.y, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:58 (one year ago) Permalink

there's such a gulf between the handful of enthused posters on the KAS thread and the level of overhype that would merit a thread like this. whiney we see embarrassing shit on twitter every day from professional critics desperate to be part of this month's buzz which often doesn't even have the mitigating factor of being genuine, why single out the praise for THIS relatively unbuzzed-about album for mockery? i mean did you see the reaction to that fucking terrible new drake single on twitter yesterday? how people are convinced young thug is the second coming? the acres of shitty purple prose churned out about radiohead or animal collective over the years?

cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah otm, the KAS thread was just people expressing enthusiasm for a record without any ulterior motive or guile.

Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:09 (one year ago) Permalink

To be fair to whiney -- and i wouldn't go too far with this, believe me -- he seems to embody a type of attitude that was popular on this board years ago and isn't so much now. He likes a lot of music and has fierce opinions so he'd be good to have around if he would cut out this kind of hardman bullshit.

Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:12 (one year ago) Permalink

xpost Or embarrassment, as has been helpfully pointed out.

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:12 (one year ago) Permalink

16%, hard to argue with those numbers

Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:13 (one year ago) Permalink

the history of this board is full of unashamed enthusiasm

cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:17 (one year ago) Permalink

i also demand the entire 1975 thread be polled

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:17 (one year ago) Permalink

To be fair to whiney -- and i wouldn't go too far with this, believe me -- he seems to embody a type of attitude that was popular on this board years ago and isn't so much now. He likes a lot of music and has fierce opinions so he'd be good to have around if he would cut out this kind of hardman bullshit.
--Treeship

Treeship otm, and I think I clearly misjudged by making a circa-2007-style ILX thread in 2016.

I stand by this thread being funny, but the keeping it negative dickhole zing crew isn't exactly rushing in here to defend me or it

If the new terms of ILX means that making fun of earnest, enthusiastic posts is implicitly sexist and ableist and bullying, then I'm 100% fine with forks deleting this thread and personally taking a break until I'm ready to fit in with the new tone of the site.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Because it doesn't bother you at all that the person you made fun of had a reaction? Only 'the new terms of ILX' matters?

Frederik B, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:26 (one year ago) Permalink

the keeping it negative dickhole zing crew

terrible people responsible for a terrible era of ilx

and no, this thread is not funny

cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:27 (one year ago) Permalink

I think there's still a place for gentle ribbing here but I can't speak to your true intentions with threads like this overall.

Evan, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:29 (one year ago) Permalink

It bothers me that she thought it was somehow motivated or predicated on me knowing she was a woman and/or autistic. It wasn't, and I certainly didn't mean to remind anyone of mansplaining show bros.

"the right to make threads joking about ppl who enjoy things differently than I enjoy them" is not exactly a hill i feel like dying on

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:30 (one year ago) Permalink

the reason people are suspicious of your motives is that the KAS thread wasn't especially gushing or OTT even for this year alone (see: king, 1975, young thug)

cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:33 (one year ago) Permalink

the thug thread has never felt particularly gushing imo

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:34 (one year ago) Permalink

mostly bc everyone seems to have different ideas of what constitutes "good young thug"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:35 (one year ago) Permalink

"the right to make threads joking about ppl who enjoy things differently than I enjoy them" is not exactly a hill i feel like dying on

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, April 7, 2016 4:30 PM (4 minutes ago)

Good.

emil.y, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:35 (one year ago) Permalink

not a mod anymore dude

fwiw, i don't get how this is whiney being an aggressive dick so much as it's whiney being whiney (insert obvious joke here)? ymmv and people's experiences speak otherwise but to my eyes this was not a mean jab
but maybe wgw is right and it's shifts in popular opinion you have noticed

ulysses, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:36 (one year ago) Permalink


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