~~~ 15 YEARS OF ILM POLL!!! ~~~ (Metal & Heavy Rock [+ related sub-genres] Edition) VOTING & DISCUSSION THREAD. ALL ILXORS WELCOME TO PARTICPATE!! Voting Ends 11.59pm UK Time September 9 2016 .

And finally, after several months nominations, seandalai and I can present you the voting & discussion thread.

I'm hoping as it's a lifetime of ILM poll we might get all of ILM participating not just the metal fans only crowd. It's a great chance to check out some great music you may be unaware of and please post in the thread asking for what kind of metal you would be interested in hearing and everyone will be happy to recommend you something.

This is not an extreme metal only poll. It covers all metal and heavy rock released 2000-2015 in ILM's lifetime. Many of which has appeared in the EOY Metal polls and are not very metal but is music made by metallers or loved by metal fans. Metal is a broad church and we hope to show this to ILM in general.

Even if you don't intend to vote please feel free join in discussions, but the more who listen to as much as they can and vote too the better.

All instructions are on the VOTING FORM

But here they are too
Please copy/paste your votes directly from the nominations list:

I will post the albums nominated below because I know people at work or tablet/phones cant always access links but please copy & paste from the link as requested by seandalai.

ALSO before you vote or while making up your longlists,

ALWAYS check the link because there's always someone who claims they didn't see the nominations list over the last 6 months and wants something added.... So if anything is missing It can be added.

As usual the ballot will be up to a MAXIMUM of 100 albums with no minimum. Vote for any number of albums between 1 & 100 as you can.

Now, we are doing something a bit different for the top ten.

We are weighting the top 10 with extra points compared to the rest. The idea is that your top 10 will be your actual personal favourite top 10 albums NOT the ones you think will win or place or that you think you should vote for because they are in the canon or sold the most.

We want you to pick your favourites in the top 10 REGARDLESS of whether you think it will place or not. Please do not do TACTICAL voting, in the top 10 at least. The extra weighting is to encourage this. It will help your lesser known faves place/place higher, so please consider this when voting, but of course at the end of the day you can vote as you want to. This isn't a rule, it's just a suggestion. The most important thing is you vote.

It will be a large rollout as usual so please try and do as many on your ballot as you can. If more fill out the top 100, the better it will be in the overall results.

That is why we are having an extended "study" period as always requested by Drugs A Money,Emil.y etc so everyone can listen to as much as they can and vote for as many as they can.
You have until September 9 to vote so no need to actually vote just now.
I suggest you use the time to make a long/short list and listen to albums on it to decide placings but also use it to check out albums that you haven't heard. I'd hope everyone on the thread will recommend albums people need to hear.

BOOSTING really works in these polls.

I'm hoping this will encourage non-regular voters or casual metal fans to take part and discover the really good albums in ILM's lifetime.

There is a collaborative spotify playlist for anyone to add albums they nominated to. So please use it and add albums (from the nominations list only) that are missing from it.
spotify:user:pfunkboy:playlist:4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy
or
https://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy

Happy Voting and please enjoy the discussions and hopefully everyone will discover some new to them music from such a vast genre!

Nominations List as of 17 July. Please refer to the actual pastebin link before voting incase more albums have been added.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/104IXKSHN1uWxe3MRFy4R5tHEOxLriKoBRKcjCNu_zus/edit?usp=sharing

Any questions on weighting or anything data specific please ask seandalai

Also when you vote, can you please post here saying so we can check your ballot has indeed made it? Thanks.

What sub-genres have we seen being invented since ILM began?

Post-Metal
Djent
Drone Metal?

and the rise of doom metal especially from a real cult thing to the covers of The Wire, Terrorizer, Decibel etc

anything else?

Kerr will you request that a mod add 'RIP Alan Vega' to the thread title

Coming up with a real top 10 is going to be very difficult.

ColdWorld - Melancholie 2
ColdWorld – Melancholie²

Are the same album nominated twice. The 'squared' one is the proper formatting.

The Occult Rock revival is definitely something that happened within the last 15 years.

You have up to 100 votes on your ballot, Frobisher.

Or do you mean this bit?

We are weighting the top 10 with extra points compared to the rest. The idea is that your top 10 will be your actual personal favourite top 10 albums NOT the ones you think will win or place or that you think you should vote for because they are in the canon or sold the most.

We want you to pick your favourites in the top 10 REGARDLESS of whether you think it will place or not. Please do not do TACTICAL voting, in the top 10 at least. The extra weighting is to encourage this. It will help your lesser known faves place/place higher, so please consider this when voting, but of course at the end of the day you can vote as you want to. This isn't a rule, it's just a suggestion. The most important thing is you vote.

It will be a large rollout as usual so please try and do as many on your ballot as you can. If more fill out the 100 options on your ballot , the better it will be in the overall results.

Its just to encourage votes for people's real top 10 faves rather than the "no point in voting for this high because it wont place high"

If your top 10 is indeed the same top 10 as the 'canon' then that's fine. But fr many it wont be and we want to encourage votes in the top 10 for the real personal faves not what people think it should be or whatever.

and everyone has about 2 months to listen to albums before deciding. Nobody need vote now, i just suggest that everyone start listening and making their longlist right away and spend the time working out their ballot over the next month or so

Right, its very hard to list my favorite albums of the past 15 years in a structured way, deciding what bests something else, etc.

Start by listening to Dopesmoker if for some weird reason you haven't heard it!

there is a mixed ballot option so you can weight as much or as little as you want then have the rest of the 100 will get equal amount of points (ask seandalai to explain)

but i hope everyone will at least weight the top 10.

plus the more people who vote ranking in order the less likely ties are to appear.

if you rank from 1-100 the #100 will still get 12 points so it is well worth ranking all the way to 100.

I'll be the first with a last-minute nomination, Seandalai:

The Blood Brothers - Crimes

Crimes is way better than Burn Piano Island Burn (which is also fantastic). If I can nominate it, it's going to be my #2 or so.

I wasn't really focused during the nominations, sorry. :(

oh come on, all the Liturgy albums but Liturgy - Aesthetics got nominated? Weird!

I don't care I'm voting for :
Liturgy - Aesthetica

Can I request we please add Elder - Lore to the nominations?

Seandelai will need to do it as I have no access to pastebin but where were you guys during the nominations? they started months ago :)

just to be clear you can vote for up to 100 albums.

The more you vote for the better

What sub-genres have we seen being invented since ILM began?

Post-Metal
Djent
Drone Metal?

and the rise of doom metal especially from a real cult thing to the covers of The Wire, Terrorizer, Decibel etc

anything else?

The Occult Rock revival is definitely something that happened within the last 15 years.

― Frobisher, Sunday, 17 July 2016 20:58 (2 hours ago)

Well,like Doom, I think it was always around, no? But certainly has gotten a lot of underground coverage. Nothings crossed over yet.

I saw Meliora in a Best Buy display rack, I'd count that as crossing over, wouldn't you?

This is exciting. Thanks guys.

Isnt shoegaze metal like Deafheaven relatively new?

haha only if it sold lots! Which it hasn't.

I imagine Five Finger Death Punch,soulfly and Devildriver sell way more though I doubt they sell a million copies either but that's where mainstream metal is these days (shite and noone likes it compared to previous decades)

xxpost to tom

Just saying, I've never seen Darkthrone in a Best Buy display rack.

Crossing over in metal is relative, I guess?

I see a Hellacopters album on the list! Good band i havent heard them in ages

shoegaze metal or blackgaze I suppose is new thanks to Alcest but it's still kinda an offshoot of post black metal, which obviously is an offshoot of black metal and post metal.

metal bands discovering my bloody valentine 20 years after the rest of us basically. But taking it shoegaze somewhere new I guess until they then just started making actual shoegaze without the metal

If anyones wanting a tip for albums to check out i suggest

Agalloch - Ashes Against The Grain
Warning - Watching From a Distance
Aluk Todolo - Occult Rock
Weakling - Dead as Dreams
Isis - Oceanic/Panopticon (the latter is shoegazier for those into that)
Absu - Tara

for 'poppier' stuff

Torche
Ghost
Uncle Acid
Alcest

Rate Your Music has a best albums 2000-2010 list here
http://tinyurl.com/RYM-Best-Metal-Albums-2000-10

and 2000-16 so just ignore the 2016 albums

http://tinyurl.com/RYM-Best-Metal-Albums-2000-16

They should at least prove a guide for what to listen to but dig deep too if you can.

If you are a fan of Black Metal style vocals and harsh guitar sound but enjoy more mid-tempo or even slow riffs and such, and are also a big depressed saddo, you might enjoy the sub-genre of Suicidal Depressive Black Metal. Its a great "blackened" compliment to funeral doom (in fact there are a few bands that are being described as "Funeral Black Metal" but that's primarily last.fm tags).

My favorite SDBM bands are:
Nocturnal Depression
Forgotten Tomb
Lifelover
I Shalt Become

This sort of thing has really only become popular in the last 10 years or more recent. There's some crossover with it and the larger sub-genre of atmospheric black metal but with a major focus on themes of suicide, depression, human extinction, antinatalism, etc. I have found it to be quite cathartic at certain times!

Anyway, that's my big sub-genre plug.

haha not one for the pop fans! Except the xasthur albums he made with the folk stuff on it

Remember to keep checking pastebin before voting. The nominations requested earlier will be added by seandalai. I have no access to pastebin

Pop fans obv. should be reevaluating Andrew W.K., who I feel is chronically underrated and disrespected.

well, people should remember it's not just a metal poll , it's heavy rock too.

I've only ever heard a few songs by andrew wk that I like. What is his best album?

as for AWK here's my rundown: Mother of Mankind > The Wolf > Close Calls With Brick Walls > I Get Wet > his other things (soundtracks, piano stuff, etc.)

His best power ballads are on The Wolf, imo. Close Calls + MoMK was released as a double album at one point so if nothing else I'd say check that out it has a great mix of stuff. If you can get past the realization that his melodies and lyrics have the depth of nursery rhymes he's really really fun.

I suppose his advice article in the Village Voice is actually the best thing he's produced, but that's not music.

A couple more duplicates in the list:
The Lord Weird Slough Feg - Down Among the Deadmen
Dark Space III

Wrong album title:
Grand Supreme Blood Court - Bow Down Before The Blood Court

Hoping that my policy of not nominating anything works out

well that was a silly policy

I don't even remember metal

you never metal her

Just realised no Deftones albums were nominated, was hoping to vote for them as my token nu-metal act.

Well if you follow the Artist - Album format I can add it to google docs and seandalai will add it to the pastebin noms. But only request these things if you actually do at least consider voting for it.

I dont think seandalai has updated pastebin from yesterday so it shouldnt be a problem.

Cool, thanks:

Deftones - White Pony
Deftones - Diamond Eyes
Deftones - Koi no yokan

Pretty sure all three of these will make my ballot.

Ok, I dont know when seandalai will get round to adding them as he's a busy chap.

I managed to cut down my draft longlist from 150 to 100. Sorted out my provisional top 10. That was really really tough. I wish I had asked seandalai to make the top 15 get extra points not just the top 10.

Is that possible seandalai?

Limp Bizkit looked promising as the flag for nu-metal voters to rally around.

If the top 15 or top 20 had extra weight then that would make it easier then everyone could then just fill upto 100 or whatever number they can manage and have that part unweighted so they get the same amount of points but those who love to rank 1-100 can do so too.

I hope everyone iwll try make the largest ballot they can. The two months voting period means noone has to rush in ballots and can use the time to listen or relisten to albums.

Which they can add on the playlist for everyone to check out
https://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy
spotify:user:pfunkboy:playlist:4S8akTlAsZqRGc0eSPnoqy

Siegbran, Frobisher and dj martian will have trouble cutting down to a top 100 I'm sure!

Voted.

heh ciderpress when have I ever done a top 100?

If I get results on saturday i will start on saturday (no idea on the roll out number but it wont be 100)

If its sunday then...

You got my ballot, right?

I voted in a gas station parking lot while out to pick up some ice. Twenty minutes later, I was standing up in my sister's wedding.

For a second, I missed the "in" in the last sentence. I thought you said you stood up your sister's wedding so that you could vote in an ILM metal poll.

(Lol I was cutting it a little close tbh)

Trying to figure out if Brad's talking about CS or BI

bi!

yeah we got it

voting form appears to be still open if any latecomers wish to vote

imago, no, youre not changing it again

dont know when results will be ready but i'll start the rollout as soon as i get them whether thats today,tomorrow or monday

👍👍

maybe never

Voting has now CLOSED officially. Seandalai closed the form.

rip voting form

there wasn't enough time to vote!

sorry I didn't vote - metal polls of an "15 year" nature are really hard for me since I've acquired so much damn music in that timeframe. I can do annual but these are too difficult for me to come up with a good list for. I'll enjoy the results though.

now that this thread is in purgatory and I've also remembered yet another band/album that should've made my list, I'll drop Keldian here:
https://keldian.bandcamp.com/album/outbound

you know how sometimes late at night you're fumbling through youtube looking for a half-remembered AOR song from the 80s you're certain you taped off the radio onto a boom box but you can't recall the title ... well Keldian's Outbound is all of those songs

(this doesn't apply to those who had ~cool~ taste in music in the 80s)

it's the powerest of power metal so let that guide you

will it give me the power of belief

ahh the 'riding a horse through space' genre of metal

^beautiful post

there's a thread in there somewhere

a playlist at the very least

i prefer riding the tiger metal

riding a horse through space

since we're not getting the rollout started tonight how about you all try and guess the top 10?

Lets see who is closest.

dont be scared of embarrassing yourself by being wrong!

http://i.imgur.com/sTkCQPt.jpg

riding a scylla through a tsunami is a totally different thing

the laser whip is the meeting point of the venn diagram

ok fair

you guys up for some metal in https://plug.dj/ilxors/ ?

you obviously don't want that now

ciderpress is in

bedtime alas, need to wake at 7 tomorrow

excited for the roll-out though! top 101? 200 last time out was a little ott maybe

I dont do piffling 100's

Ideally it would start at 666

If Turisas dont win the poll btw blame their biggest fan for not voting

for imago
http://i.imgur.com/OpzyAHo.png

i'm up for metal on plug!

Decibel’s Top 100 Albums of the Decade

1 - Converge - Jane Doe

Cave In – Jupiter (Hydra Head 2000)
Opeth – Blackwater Park (Koch 2001)
Isis – Oceanic (Ipecac 2002)
Mastodon – Remission (Relapse 2002)
Katatonia – Last Fair Deal Gone Down (Peaceville 2001)
Queens Of The Stone Age – Songs For The Deaf (Interscope 2002)
Iron Maiden – Brave New World (Columbia 2000)
Pig Destroyer – Phantom Limb (Relapse 2007)
Electric Wizard – Dopethrone (Rise Above 2000)
Torche – Meanderthal (Hydra Head 2008)
Discordance Axis – The Inalienable Dreamless (Hydra Head 2000)
Baroness – Blue Record (Relapse 2009)
Napalm Death – Enemy Of The Music Business (Dream Catcher 2000)
Pelican – The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon The Thaw (Hydra Head 2005)
The Red Chord – Clients (Metal Blade 2005)
Converge – Axe To Fall (Epitaph 2009)
Neurosis – A Sun That Never Sets (Relapse 2001)
Melt-Banana – Cell Scape (A-Zap 2003)
Agalloch – Ashes Against The Grain (The End 2006)
Enslaved – Isa (Candlelight 2004)
Tragedy – Tragedy (Tragedy 2000)
Fugazi – The Argument (Dischord 2001)
Mare – Mare EP (Hydra Head 2004)
Celtic Frost – Monotheist (Century Media 2006)
Jesu – Silver EP (Hydra Head 2006)
High On Fire – Surrounded By Thieves (Relapse 2002)
Dimmu Borgir – Death Cult Armageddon (Nuclear Blast 2003)
The Dillinger Escape Plan – Miss Machine (Relapse 2004)
Andrew W.K. – I Get Wet (Island 2001)
Mastodon – Leviathan (Relapse 2004)
Craft – Fuck The Universe (Carnal 2005)
Isis – Panopticon (Ipecac 2004)
Anaal Nathrakh – The Codex Necro (Mordgrimm 2001)
Shellac – 1000 Hurts (Touch & Go 2000)
Witchcraft – Witchcraft (Rise Above / Music Cartel 2004)
Killswitch Engage – Alive Or Just Breathing (Roadrunner 2001)
Pig Destroyer – Prowler In The Yard (Relapse 2001)
Converge – You Fail Me (Epitaph 2004)
Deathspell Omega – Fas – Ite, Maledicti, In Ignem Aeternum (Ajna 2007)
Primordial – The Gathering Wilderness (Metal Blade 2005)
Opeth – Ghost Reveries (Roadrunner 2005)
Nile – Annihilation Of The Wicked (Relapse 2005)
Watain – Sworn To The Dark (Ajna 2007)
Between The Buried And Me – Alaska (Victory 2005)
Evoken – Quietus (Avantgarde 2001)
Electric Wizard – Witchcult Today (Rise Above 2007)
Mastodon – Blood Mountain (Reprise 2006)
Arsis – A Celebration Of Guilt (Willowtip 2004)
The Dillinger Escape Plan – Ire Works (Relapse 2007)
Ludicra – Fex Urbis, Lex Orbis (Alternative Tentacles 2006)
At The Drive-In – Relationship Of Command (Grand Royal / Virgin 2000)
Isis – Celestial (Escape Artist 2000)
Jesu – Jesu (Hydra Head 2004)
Enslaved – Below The Lights (The End 2003)
Cult Of Luna – Somewhere Along The Highway (Earache 2006)
High On Fire – Death Is This Communion (Relapse 2007)
Disfear – Live The Storm (Relapse 2008)
Dying Fetus – Destroy The Opposition (Relapse 2000)
Napalm Death – Time Waits For No Slave (Century Media 2009)
Deftones – White Pony (Maverick 2000)
Botch – An Anthology Of Dead Ends EP (Hydra Head 2002)
Converge – No Heroes (Epitaph 2006)
Hatebreed – Perseverance (Universal 2002)
Withered – Memento Mori (Lifeforce 2005)
Leviathan – Tentacles Of Whorror (Moribund 2004)
Meshuggah – Catch 33 (Nuclear Blast 2005)
Thorns – Thorns (Moonfog 2001)
Rotten Sound – Murderworks (Death Vomit 2002)
Trap Them – Seizures In Barren Praise (Deathwish 2008)
Deathevokation – The Chalice Of Ages (Xtreem Music 2007)
Nachtmystium – Assassins: Black Meddle, Part I (Century Media 2008)
Immortal – Sons Of Northern Darkness (Nuclear Blast 2002)
Nasum – Human 2.0 (Relapse 2000)
Fucked Up – Hidden World (Jade Tree 2006)
Neurosis – Given To The Rising (Neurot 2007)
Taint – The Ruin Of Nova Roma (Rise Above 2005)
System Of A Down – Toxicity (American 2001)
Akercocke – Words That Go Unspoken, Deeds That Go Undone (Earache 2005)
Warhorse – As Heaven Turns To Ash (Southern Lord 2001)
Mayhem – Chimera (Season Of Mist 2004)
Gojira – From Mars To Sirius (Listenable 2005)
Drowningman – How They Light Cigarettes In Prison EP (Revelation 2000)
Pig Destroyer – Terrifyer (Relapse 2004)
Watain – Casus Luciferi (Drakkar 2003)
Killswitch Engage – The End Of Heartache (Roadrunner 2004)
Psyopus – Ideas Of Reference (Black Market Activities 2004)
The Haunted – The Haunted Made Me Do It (Earache 2000)
Cryptopsy – …And Then You’ll Beg (Century Media 2000)
Asunder – Works Will Come Undone (Profound Lore 2006)
Godflesh – Hymns (Koch 2001)
Cathedral – Endtyme (Earache 2001)
The Paper Chase – Now You Are One Of Us (Kill Rock Stars 2006)
Decapitated – Nihility (Earache 2002)
Coalesce – Ox (Relapse 2009)
In Flames – Clayman (Nuclear Blast 2000)
Battle Of Mice – A Day Of Nights (Neurot 2006)
Cobalt – Gin (Profound Lore 2009)
My Dying Bride – The Dreadful Hours (Peaceville 2001)
Slayer – World Painted Blood (American 2009)

How many of those will make our top 100?

i predict that all of them will

They're all tied for 2

#2

Ohhh I forgot to vote for Cell Scape!!!

you aren't changing your ballot now Mr two months study time for voting!

Let the record show that I never once asked if we could have an extended nominations/voting period for this poll

And I've never once asked for a two-month voting period for any poll.

defense, your witness

ok the rollout will be starting sometime tonight! seandalai is sending me the results tonight!

http://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=104546#unread

win a cash prize!