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I was waiting for someone else to start this... but I guess it's me, huh?

Liking the laid-back, retro club vibe some of the newer Kpop groups are going with... seems like it's trickled up from last year's underground summer singles.

Personal highlights from January:

MIXX - Love is a Sudden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3MH-RzWgCQ

Cross Gene - White Mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TTQUkrW1xI

Sixth Sense - Don't Go (also check out their SUPERIOR single from last summer, Feel Me https://youtu.be/7rGpYP-gzwY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqyzQXUQTkM

BP Rania - Don't Start a Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp5vQm-UmbU

Day6 - I Wait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3nFopIjmjI

Also listening to some of last year's summer singles I missed, for example TwoX https://youtu.be/nebBti6L4pA, Bulldok https://youtu.be/dOnK_GOR3W8, Dorothy M https://youtu.be/yZw4tLGgyjU... and K.A.R.D.'s Oh Nana https://youtu.be/yPTcKSVAEvA and IMFACT's Feel so Good https://youtu.be/JOXVTjlF2pk from the end of last year, which still bang).

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 5 February 2017 22:26 (one year ago) Permalink

In more mainstream news, Red Velvet's mini is strong.... you gotta give the single a chance, it grows on you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHDgdx0Jy7Y

The b-sides are strong as usual, I like Talk to Me the most https://youtu.be/dk5726y2M2g

CLC are bombing hard after trying to become 4minute, but their mini has some decent b-sides too, I like Meow Meow the most https://youtu.be/APLZNFQU_Yc

Also a fan of Zion T's first mini since he signed with YG, it's exactly what you'd expect from Zion.T, but in a good way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgT2JQ0EtcM

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 5 February 2017 22:32 (one year ago) Permalink

it's felt like a fairly weak start to the year so far. rookie is ok but the chorus is kinda annoying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7gOqqbBW6w

one of the better singles in the standard girl group vein lately

ufo, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 04:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I kinda agree...though iirc last year didn't have a lot of great singles out in January either.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Taeyeon jumping on that stripped-down instrumental chorus train, I think it works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHqy1JsVvIE

The song has a lot of momentum which it purposefully squanders on the sax drop, I think? In order to create an introspective feel.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 18 February 2017 00:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Meanwhile Cross Gene's new single sounds like it could have gone to BAP instead... which is probably why I like it...

https://youtu.be/zDEBLbeT23s

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 18 February 2017 01:22 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A2t_tAjMz8

best new single of 2017

, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:32 (one year ago) Permalink

linking other thread for posterity rolling k-pop 2017

, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:33 (one year ago) Permalink

this rules

devvvine, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:18 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdT1OEYfcMs this is basically Awoo + Send My Love (To Your New Lover) but it's quite nice

like all Twice singles Knock Knock is extremely catchy but doesn't really do any more than that. the instrumental bit before the bridge feels pointless too

ufo, Thursday, 23 February 2017 12:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Aw, that's nice!

Frederik B, Thursday, 23 February 2017 12:08 (one year ago) Permalink

Thumbs up for Subin, Happy Face Ent has some nice songs.

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 24 February 2017 22:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Incidentally here's Gaon's official singles for each month in 2016:

January - GFriend - Rough
February - Mamamoo - You're the Best
March - Jang Bum Joon - Fallen In Love (Only with You)
April- Twice - Cheer Up
May - Urban Zakapa - I Don't Love You
June - Sistar - I Like That
July - Wonder Girls - Why So Lonely
August - Blackpink - Whistle
September - Lim Chang Jung - The Love I Committed
October - Twice - TT
November - Blackpink - Playing with Fire
December - Big Bang - Fxxk It

from http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/19804561.html

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 24 February 2017 23:34 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

First GOT7 single I've liked in a while:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ1t7CwfvEc

More melody than you'd expect from a song in this style.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 13 March 2017 17:54 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1n_1jrUEjU

this is basically an Infinite single from a few years back so i like it a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1c0Y3Q7c8I

enjoying this a lot despite being straight forward tropical house, chorus has a good hook. gloomy mansion is a very weird mv concept for it though

ufo, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 14:55 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Rolling is pretty good, WINNER's new tropical house single on the other hand...

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 8 April 2017 01:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Lost their main vocalist and main rapper... but this song is the light and the truth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvs-rOu-bq8

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:15 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9IxdwEFk1c

abcfsk, Friday, 21 April 2017 09:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Taking bets on whether GDragon will show up for the live performances...

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 21 April 2017 16:48 (one year ago) Permalink

This is nice though, a really smart collab that's having a bit of a conversation with Bae Bae ("You’re forever 25 to me / Won’t ever change BABE 5 X 5 BABE"). Walks a fine line between being self-appreciative and allowing other people in to witness and appreciate.. Twenty-five/truly fine is a bit clever too.

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 21 April 2017 16:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Not to mention the clever conversation with Twenty-three

abcfsk, Friday, 21 April 2017 20:14 (one year ago) Permalink

yep, that too

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 22 April 2017 19:17 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNcBZM5SvbY

this is a lovely dreamy synth jam

ufo, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:30 (ten months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

god bless "palette"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:14 (ten months ago) Permalink

new blackpink sounds quite 5 years ago but in a good way, it's probably the best single from any yg group in about that long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amq-qlqbjYA

ufo, Sunday, 25 June 2017 07:26 (nine months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Thread much slower than in past years... not much happening or nobody posting about it?

anyways, half-year update:
ILM'S Rolling K-Pop Thread 2017 Spotify Playlist

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 16 July 2017 17:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

it's definitely felt a bit unexciting this year due to the big trend still just being tropical house but that's the same situation as elsewhere i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyiIGEHQP8o

best red velvet single since ice cream cake i think

ufo, Sunday, 16 July 2017 23:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Just find this year's songs kinda lackluster honestly. And the girlgroups just keep getting thinner which bothers me on a personal level aha.

I do like the Blackpink and Red Velvet.

My favorite Kpop song of the moment is this b-side track from LOONA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2sLXAf4ZcI

There's also Myteen, who are like a new MRMR for me (lesser known group specializing in RnB whose vocals elevate their material - they're from the same label as VIXX which bodes well for them musically):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_TlyZ5Y3h8&t=76s

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 03:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

Trying that again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_TlyZ5Y3h8

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 03:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

can't help but think that having a western band called "MYTEEN" release a single called "Take It Out" would be how you say problematic

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 03:28 (eight months ago) Permalink

man that blackpink track is so good
what a chorus

nxd, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 10:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

CLC trying to get themselves remixed into a vaporwave single, I dig it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khEW_JABKjw

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 4 August 2017 03:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

So lush, so 90s

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 4 August 2017 03:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

I feel like I'm witnessing the evolution of Kpop disorientation/sensory overload techniques with this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G_fQOSvccU

So much shaky cam, so many quick cuts, so well executed.

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 4 August 2017 03:16 (eight months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eifrBiNTU88

this has been one of my favourites lately

still unable to stop listening to 'everyday i love you' though

ufo, Friday, 4 August 2017 03:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

lol but also ;_; http://www.theonion.com/article/report-south-korea-developing-new-pop-group-capabl-56555

Roz, Friday, 4 August 2017 04:40 (eight months ago) Permalink

anyone got a link to either of the two new snsd double a-sides?
apols if not out yet

nxd, Friday, 4 August 2017 10:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

Solid songs, but neither one really sounds like a single? Holiday has some cute dance moves though, and I like the synths on All Night.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 7 August 2017 18:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

they're not even in the top 15 tho... fans are blaming SM for not releasing the physical and digital albums on the same day

WINNER says hi from their #1 spot (this is for you Roz)

http://sd.magatsu.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/LOVE.png

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 7 August 2017 19:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

Tropical house now fully digested into the Kpop songwriting toolbag, can be used to punch up the chorus of a midtempo RnB ballad https://youtu.be/iAVAhkvXXoQ

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

xpost lol thanks. Mino's resemblance to GD in those dance videos is very distracting.

I'm not really liking the new Winner songs - they're nice enough I guess but other than trop house fatigue, I actually kind of miss their cheesy ballads.

Roz, Thursday, 10 August 2017 11:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

Gfriend familiar and safe but still catchy imo. Dreamcatcher single rocks. Good for live performances too.

abcfsk, Thursday, 10 August 2017 16:20 (eight months ago) Permalink

I can like CLC's Especia lite

abcfsk, Friday, 11 August 2017 04:32 (eight months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Choi Sam going harder, tighter, closer, more brutalist, to great effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG-I1c7DPMQ

abcfsk, Friday, 25 August 2017 12:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

Interesting to see Heize releasing a Seo Taiji cover. She operates in that same area of K-artists who are rappers and singers at the same time and pop stars and underground (at least in origin) at the same time, sometimes tough, edgy, sometimes silky smooth and sugary sweet.

Also interesting concept: Heize as the top hit chart force in 2017. Not sure many people thought the messy first Unpretty Rapstar season would produce something like that.

abcfsk, Friday, 25 August 2017 12:18 (seven months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGRv8ZBLuW0

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 02:37 (seven months ago) Permalink

Pros - visuals, voiceover, the way the vocals overlap on the verses
Cons - WE GOT THAT POWER... POWER... POWER... POWER.... POWER.... POWER...

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 02:44 (seven months ago) Permalink

First k-pop _group_ I guess

abcfsk, Sunday, 26 November 2017 09:55 (four months ago) Permalink

i'm glad BTS are on their way to maybe breaking through in the US but i don't really love any of their singles, this one included

Red Flavor has a good chance for eoy i think

ufo, Sunday, 26 November 2017 16:40 (four months ago) Permalink

For those compiling your year-end lists, this playlist includes all the available tracks on this thread, organized roughly chronologically in order of mention:

ILM's 2017 Rolling K-Pop Thread Spotify Playlist

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 26 November 2017 19:09 (four months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIDe-yTxda0

abcfsk, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 05:46 (four months ago) Permalink

i'm gonna rep for both "palette" and "red flavor" for the ilx eoy

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 17:05 (four months ago) Permalink

oh and that yves^^^^ hell yes

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 17:09 (four months ago) Permalink

yves track is great!

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 18:19 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah I'm reppin for Palette although feel it's underrated. Maybe it isn't

abcfsk, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 19:28 (four months ago) Permalink

Red Flavor, Girl Front and As If It's Your Last are definitely on my eoy list. Everyday I Love You and The Star of Stars probably have a chance too

new is good, LOONA are definitely 2017 MVP

ufo, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 00:56 (four months ago) Permalink

"as if it's your last" deffo on mine
chorus of the year :)

hope to have room for red flavor too!

nxd, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 09:25 (four months ago) Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPzB1q9VoAAyFQV.jpg

What is it? No idea so far

abcfsk, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 11:45 (four months ago) Permalink

Red Flavor and Subin's Circle's Dream are the two biggest contenders for my eoy list.

Frederik B, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:55 (four months ago) Permalink

I actually like Peek a Boo a lot more than Red Flavor, even though the chorus and verse sound a bit similar (same chord progression?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uJf2IT2Zh8

EXID's DDD and Blackpink's As If It's Your Last are getting my vote too!

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 04:30 (four months ago) Permalink

I guess no one's voting for TWICE?

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 04:32 (four months ago) Permalink

Oh and there's a new Hyuna song out that's a lotta fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcqImqOVE2U

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 04:36 (four months ago) Permalink

It's been interesting to watch BTS do the rounds on the US late night circuit, if only because the last time I watched a late night show live on TV was several years ago... (I get up really early OK). There's so much bonus content online now, BTS slots in perfectly.

I especially liked "Flinch" with James Corden, Jimmy Kimmel interviewing fans before the show, and the Mic Drop camerawork on Ellen.

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 04:47 (four months ago) Permalink

DNA too, the nonspastic but dynamic, close but not too close, low angle camerawork is so satisfying.

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 04:54 (four months ago) Permalink

Came back to say... Gashina (Sunmi), Dinosaur (AKMU) also get my end of year nods

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 9 December 2017 05:00 (four months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnniajBkORg

abcfsk, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 12:14 (four months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8xMLTwCPlE&feature=youtu.be&t=7m3s

As BAP would say... yeah, that's my jam! Vocal performances on point.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 14 December 2017 01:55 (four months ago) Permalink

Horrible news. I'm devastated, Jonghyun was a legit talent, not to mention the rare K-pop idol who spoke up in support of LGBT rights. He was one of the good ones.

Some conflicting reports coming out of Seoul, that he was still alive and being operated on but it sounds like wishful thinking? I don't know. :( :(

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/18/shinee-kim-jong-hyun-lead-singer-of-south-korean-boy-band-dies

Roz, Monday, 18 December 2017 14:35 (four months ago) Permalink

oh no, that's really devastating. shinee have always been one of my favourite groups and his solo album last year was nice.

RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF53cptEE5k

ufo, Monday, 18 December 2017 14:50 (four months ago) Permalink

I can't deal with K-pop twitter right now - too many heartbroken teenagers. He was so young. :'(

Roz, Monday, 18 December 2017 15:33 (four months ago) Permalink

:(

If you read through the post on omona, there is a translation Jong Hyun's final letter to family and friends. It's on the 22nd page of comments, I don't want to link it here. Really deeply sad, it reminds me so much of a close family member who went the same way.

This leaves Tell Me What To Do as SHINEE's last song together as a group... reminder that the people in your life who've been suffering for a long are probably still suffering, even if they aren't saying anything about right at this moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5oJWAuQuSA

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:04 (three months ago) Permalink

I wonder if they'll release the solo album... reportedly it was pretty much finished, even the music video had been recorded two days prior.
I know wwe used to say that with the stress of being a Kpop star, the lack of support, and the mental health issues of so many artists, it was only a matter of time before we saw a really high-profile death... but still SO sad to read the news about Jong Hyun today, he was truly one of the very best.I wonder if they'll release the solo album... reportedly it was pretty much finished, even the music video had been recorded two days prior. I know wwe used to say that with the stress of being a Kpop star, the lack of support, and the mental health issues of so many artists, it was only a matter of time before we saw a really high-profile death... but still SO sad to read the news about Jong Hyun today, he was truly one of the very best.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:05 (three months ago) Permalink

Damn I didn't hit post on that... computer issues, sorry guys.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:09 (three months ago) Permalink

On a lighter note...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVVfMFS3mgc

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:11 (three months ago) Permalink

Since nominations close tomorrow... how many of these should I actually nominate for the EOTY lists????

I think I'll probably nominate like 4-5 tracks and a couple albums, at most, so as not to split the vote.

Tracks:
BTS - Pied Piper
BTS ft. Desiigner - Mic Drop (Steve Aoki remix)
Taemin - Move
Taemin - Thirsty
Hitchhiker x Taeyong - Around
<s>Blackpink - As If It's Your Last</s> already nominated
Twice - Signal
LOONA/Odd Eye Circle - Girl Front
EXID - DDD
Melody Day - Kiss on the Lips
OGUOGU - ICE CHU
Jonhyun ft. Taeyeon - Lonely

Albums:
BTS - Love Yourself:Her
IU - Palette
Taemin - Move
EXID - Eclipse
LOONA - Compilation Album #1

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:12 (three months ago) Permalink

"Girl Front" already nominated.

Jeff W, Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:45 (three months ago) Permalink

"new" is probably going to be my loona pick. i fall deeper in love with it every time i hear it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 January 2018 21:20 (three months ago) Permalink

oh awesome, thanks! I was actually thinking about cutting that one since I don't love it as much as the others, haha. I like the LOONA project as a whole and many of them are fantastic singers but there's no standout track for me, yet.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:24 (three months ago) Permalink

my LOONA picks are Girl Front and Everyday I Love You but I like new a lot too and could vote for it if it's what others are getting behind? definitely my favourite thing in kpop this year, a lot of good singles with a few great ones, they've been surprisingly consistent.

there haven't really been any standout albums/EPs from the few I've heard this year, are there any must-listens? it's been a fantastic year for singles though

ufo, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:11 (three months ago) Permalink

and if I vote for a TWICE single it's definitely Likey which has slowly been growing on me

ufo, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:13 (three months ago) Permalink

I also like Likely, but I didn't nominate it because it's kinda similar to Kylie Minogue's Can't Shake the Feeling:

https://youtu.be/kcW5IRMGPpg

I mean, maybe that doesn't matter, it's not like it's the same song or anything.

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 5 January 2018 04:36 (three months ago) Permalink

i don't really hear that much of a resemblance there? it's already nominated though

for a long time Likey's hook felt really unsatisfying despite loving the rest of it, but its catchiness has caught up with me. the same thing happened with TT for me too

ufo, Friday, 5 January 2018 05:33 (three months ago) Permalink

i may honestly be the only person who really feels a way for "new" but its construction is pretty oblique for a synth pop jam, everything occurs slightly later than i expect it to, which helps the track exude a kind of centerless longing (i haven't read the lyrics). makes me think of what would happen if green gartside wrote a kpop song

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 5 January 2018 16:27 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah it's subtly weird. the bass rhythm is atypical and feels quite odd at first but then ties everything together in the chorus. i'm not sure but are the hi-hats live at least in the verse(?) they stand out compared to the other percussion and the brief moment they drop out at the start of the second verse is always unexpected but cool

the lyrics are mostly about realising a new self, they don't seem like anything special but listening to it while reading the subtitles has also made me weirdly emotional multiple times lol

i would really love it if some kpop producers mined cupid & psyche for things to rip and it's a real shame they haven't yet

ufo, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:11 (three months ago) Permalink

otm on all counts ufo

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:19 (three months ago) Permalink

We're all voting for As If It's Your Last, right? https://youtu.be/Hnz-HKfhIUU

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:13 (three months ago) Permalink

thumb up

nxd, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:15 (three months ago) Permalink

:D

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:17 (three months ago) Permalink

And while we're still in the 2017 thread, this one is pretty good...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq6s1mCT9BI

Impressed by their commitment to the choreography, usually boygroups are a bit more reserved.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:18 (three months ago) Permalink

voted for more j-pop than k-pop this year. K-pop on my ballot: "Palette" and "Move".

Roz, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 01:45 (three months ago) Permalink

that ACE track is quite good & so is the dancing yeah

lol at that blackpink cover

ufo, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 02:40 (three months ago) Permalink

Blackpink and TWICE both made it to the year-end list (#67 Likey, #66 As If It's Your Last), good job guys.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:55 (three months ago) Permalink

Whenever someone decides to make a 2018 thread... this year is off to a good start https://youtu.be/JQGRg8XBnB4

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:59 (three months ago) Permalink

Seems IU might not ;/ xp

abcfsk, Monday, 22 January 2018 19:01 (three months ago) Permalink

eh it’s early yet. i don’t have any expectations though

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 22 January 2018 19:02 (three months ago) Permalink

Kpop 2018

ufo, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 04:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Girl Front at #44, I think I voted for it but can't remember. I'm pretty happy to see it place, I like it more than 'new' although 'new' has been growing on me.

Hitchhikker was my #1 but p sure that's not showing up on any list any time soon lol.

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 03:17 (two months ago) Permalink


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