best song on girlfriend

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been playing this a lot. i might actually have to go for "thought i knew you".

Poll Results

OptionVotes
i've been waiting 8
girlfriend 6
divine intervention 4
evangeline 3
thought i knew you 2
winona 1
your sweet voice 1
holy war 0
does she talk 0
don't go 0
i wanted to tell you 0
you don't love me 0
looking at the sun 0
day for night 0
nothing lasts 0


scott seward, Saturday, 15 July 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

Girlfriend, obv. Does She Talk is 2nd for me.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 15 July 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

a poll from scott! a first? i'll have to listen again. i just recognize the biggies from the titles.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 15 July 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

i hid polls for 10 years.

i love "day for night" so much but the live versions from this era are so much better. like the one on that goodfriend promo. which i now see someone put out on vinyl! i had no idea. must have been an RSD thing. would totally buy that. love the live indigo/sweet cortez the killer so much.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

I could listen to the colliding solos from Quine and Lloyd all day.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

what country singer could do the most justice to "you don't love me"? would love to hear a great woman country singer belt that out with weeping strings and ace session dobro.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

would have loved to hear shania twain do "does she talk?" at the height of her pocket monster pulchritude. with ac/dc backing her up obviously.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

I didn't think I'd find you
Perfect in so many ways

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

Kenny Chesney could do it, Scott.

By the way, I'm surprised you love this record.

I voted "Evangeline" over "Day for Night."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

Is it just me, or is this record front-loaded? I barely remember the last 4-5 songs, and would have to force myself to forget the first 5-6.

Jim Rondinelli is this record's secret weapon. Beautiful drum sounds (he worked similar magic for Scrawl on He's Drunk).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

I'm with you 100% about it being frontloaded although I have no doubt that the Iron Law of ILX will kick in and this assertion will be labeled challops.

Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

Way too long.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

saw Sweet on Tuesday, was great!

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 July 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

has anyone listened to the recent album?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 15 July 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

It is frontloaded, but it's not that the side 2 tracks aren't good, it's that there's a better version of each song on side 1. (Except "You Don't Love Me" > "Winona".)

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 15 July 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

This is 60 mins long! There isn't a power pop album on the planet that should be an hour long

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 15 July 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

"By the way, I'm surprised you love this record."

i love girlfriend and altered beast forever and ever. but that's it. don't listen to anything else. i might not be alone there. i did enjoy the josie & the pussycats soundtrack.

altered beast is also too long but i don't care.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

(Except "You Don't Love Me" > "Winona".)

otm. Never liked "Winona"...in fact, I always found it kind of embarrassing.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

i feel like i know so much of this album by heart but i couldn't pick "your sweet voice" out of a lineup no matter how many times i've played it. and i've played it a lot over the years. great albums shouldn't be perfect though. you don't want to offend God.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 July 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 16 July 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

xpost - Simon H - no, but the new songs he did live seemed pretty good

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 16 July 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

Divine Intervention

that's not my post, Sunday, 16 July 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link

I actually love "your sweet voice" - the harmonies, the weeping steel guitar, Lloyd's liquid solo...

bunny slopes, Sunday, 16 July 2017 05:41 (six years ago) link

For me, "I've Been Waiting" has achieved defining-song-of-the-genre status.

SlimAndSlam, Sunday, 16 July 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

My "ex" put this record in rotation back in the day -- i was away when she got it so she already knew all the songs before i even heard the guys name. I was easily won over by the first "ooh-ooohs" on Divine Intervention. I don't listen to it now-a-days because it occupies the space of "her" and "then"; but i did for this poll. The false-start and subsequent driving rhythm on "Thought I Knew You" seems appropriate for my vote.

bodacious ignoramus, Sunday, 16 July 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

I thought the last three songs were supposed to be thought of as "bonus tracks," not that that excuses the album's longness.

Anyone seeing him on his current tour? I missed the show here but caught him at the record store, where he played three new songs, all pretty memorable, and "I've Been Waiting," its high notes as high as ever, remarkably.

geoffreyess, Sunday, 16 July 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

I love this album. I have heard every song on it so much it's one of those ones I don't even have to listen to to hear them fully formed in my head. And as much as I love "I've Been Waiting," I think "Evangeline" is the stealth secret weapon here.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Sunday, 16 July 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 17 July 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

"Looking At The Sun" was robbed

Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 July 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link

Damn, "You Don't Love Me" deserves at least one vote for sure

bunny slopes, Monday, 17 July 2017 04:16 (six years ago) link

i have never heard of this album... gonna listen now

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 17 July 2017 07:45 (six years ago) link

yeah, thanks for bringing this to my attention, sounds great!

niels, Monday, 17 July 2017 09:04 (six years ago) link

The right one won

the underground is pass-agg (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 17 July 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link

This poll was too brief. The album is a good length IMO. I've Been Waiting is just the most perfect, Looking At The Sun just slays me ("Do you want to run away with me?" is a pretty killer opening line), and the sad songs (You Don't Love Me, Nothing Lasts, Don't Go) are just the most fun you can have being sad in pop. As great a songwriter as Sweet is, however, this would be half the album without the fierce and wonderful guitars throughout. Sweet pop + wild skronk is my happy place.

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Monday, 17 July 2017 11:15 (six years ago) link

This poll was too brief.

ie I didn't see it till it was too late to vote!

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Monday, 17 July 2017 11:15 (six years ago) link

damn this album is solid. nere a dud. gimme the title track.

rip van wanko, Monday, 17 July 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link

Great album throughout, a special fave for on the road, too. Would've voted I've Been Waiting, 24k gold.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 July 2017 11:39 (six years ago) link

I voted "Divine Intervention" for those snarling guitars. I don't listen to this album often enough, probably because it's too long & I'd rather have had the second side moved largely to b-sides...but I'd still want to hear them sometimes.

someone earlier said that they loved this album and Altered Beast and then nothing more by Sweet. Despite loving this album from its release I could never get into Altered Beast save for "Time Capsule". I blame college. But 100% Fun and even the next one, Blue Sky On Mars, still hold up for me. I listen to 100% Fun more than Girlfriend even, because of its concision. He had a way with opening and closing songs, didn't he?

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 17 July 2017 12:36 (six years ago) link

Oh man I didn't see this poll. Would have voted Evangeline.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 17 July 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

It was an odd and fun thing when "Girlfriend" was in heavy rotation on MTV. Robert Quine's on tv! Every day!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link

Always worth reposting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXZsuEFrPeo

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 July 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link

I remember all those things, even the longboxes.

Nice i didn't go it alone on my track choice.

bodacious ignoramus, Monday, 17 July 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link

I like these Sweet albums, but I thought Lloyd Cole, working with Quine, Sweet, and Lloyd too, made the smarter and better records.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

happy 30th

mookieproof, Friday, 22 October 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link

did Pat mastellotto know who Quine was? did Quine know who Mr Mister was? Who's the rhythm guitar player? radney Foster? and that is Sara Lee, right?

veronica moser, Friday, 22 October 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

Vinyl reissue coming next year

xpost I don't know the exact timeline, but Pat was certainly full-time session work by then. Tying it all together, though, is that Sara Lee played with Fripp in the League of Gentlemen, Quine certainly knew and/or knew of Fripp, and of course Pat went on to play with Sylvian/Fripp and King Crimson just a couple of years after "Girlfriend." So they're all pretty connected already.

Oh, and apparently the other guitarist is Murray Attaway, who was in Guadalcanal Diary.

I've never seen the second clip, btw!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieKFOOGP1r8

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 October 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link

Such a gorgeous long box in the first clip. Not all covers worked in that format, but Girlfriend really sings.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 October 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

Don’t remember seeing either of those Dennis Miller Show clips, thanks!

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 October 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link

And, apart from Quine and Matthew Sweet himself, nobody else in that band was on the album, afaik.

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 October 2021 03:57 (two years ago) link

No, but lots of people from Quine's circle are. Fred Maher, Ivan Julian, Richard Lloyd, etc. And a lot of them had just worked a bunch with Lloyd Cole, right? (And he's on the album, too.)

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 October 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link

Is Ivan Julian on that album? I guess he is, plying rhythm? I saw him live with Matthew Sweet, in which context he was playing some good leads.

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 October 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link


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