Richard & Linda Thompson - I Want To Poll the Bright Lights Tonight

Yeah this is a tough one. Tempted to vote "Calvary Cross" but the version on the 1975 live album way outstrips it. Will need to listen again.

OTM on live Calvary Cross and listening to this again.

So obvious, but I'm tempted to vote for the title track. The gleeful, unflinching nihilism of the sentiment (essentially: 'what a shitty week that was. let's get completely annihilated') is punk rock in itself, even more so coming from a female folk singer in the 1970s

Love this album and voted Border. Title track would be second.

All of the tracks are indeed great. Hallelujah is a personal favourite. Rainbow takes me unawares every time, did he just say that? Has He Got a Friend had me welling up etc etc.

... guitar on When I Get to the Border!!!

What I like are the contemporaneousness of the lyrics, and the way they throw off a lot of the 'olde worlde' trappings of English folk music. It's not fair maidens and brave knights. It's not bumbling ramblers and diamond days. There's no pretence here in that these are 1970s suburban stories as told through the filter of the folk tradition. Even things like 'Poor Little Beggar Girl' seem to work by way of analogy more than plain re-enactment.

And of course it all sounds great. I was surprised to hear how quickly it was recorded and on such a low budget. It sounds really well made and played. Hallelujah is jaw-dropping

Voted for 'Withered and Died' because the opening verse has played on my mind quite a bit over the last year or so:

This cruel country has driven me down
Teased me and lied, teased me and lied
I've only sad stories to tell to this town
My dreams have withered and died

^ it's such a universal lyric that it could be applied to so many situations but that verse resonated with me a lot this morning while walking to work

What I like are the contemporaneousness of the lyrics, and the way they throw off a lot of the 'olde worlde' trappings of English folk music. It's not fair maidens and brave knights. It's not bumbling ramblers and diamond days. There's no pretence here in that these are 1970s suburban stories as told through the filter of the folk tradition. Even things like 'Poor Little Beggar Girl' seem to work by way of analogy more than plain re-enactment.

Not sure this is too different to what Richard Thompson did with Fairport tbh.

There is literally a fuck-ton of folk music this would apply to

I'd say this album has more 'olde worlde' trappings than pretty much everything RT has done since.

without the means to listen to this at the moment I'm surprised nobody's mentioned "The Great Valerio" which I love

I think its a really solid lp. Pretty melancholy, though possibly outdone by Pour Down Like Silver.

& I would recommend that In Concert November 1975 set that came out 10 Years ago, hoping that it is still available. Has more stretched out guitar stuff on it.

to be fair, i've not heard a lot of Fairport save for bits of Unhalfbricking and yeah you're right, that's not a very fiddle-dee-dee album either

I love this record, the melancholy is enhanced by inheriting it from an ex-GF. My favourite is The Calvary Cross, for its extraordinary, shimmering guitar work. The whole record is a tour-de-force guitar-wise though, along with all the other things that make it great.

Voted "We Sing Hallelujah", a song that is often slept on. Following on from the discussion upthread, this song seems to fit squarely in the folk tradition and yet also sound very contemporary. Does that make it "timeless", I wonder.

It was also used in the National Theatre's production of The Mysteries, the best thing I've ever seen in a theatre.

The gleeful, unflinching nihilism of the sentiment (essentially: 'what a shitty week that was. let's get completely annihilated') is punk rock in itself, even more so coming from a female folk singer in the 1970s

otm

There's a new expanded reissue of Bright Phoebus by lal & Mike Waterson with Richard playing on. Would think that would appeal to anybody into this lp.

As someone said upthread the guitar playing, and sounds, on this album are stunning, "The Great Valerio", oh my!

I love this album. "When I Get to the Border" is one of Richard's best; title track melts my heart every goddamn time.

"Withered and Died" is frequently covered (cf. Elvis Costello, Kate Rusby), so I don't see it as straight on as I might but I think it's in its best and purest form here from Linda.

I should note that the odd bits - like the long tradwank at the end of "When I get to the Border" and the none-more-Britishes "silver band" section of "I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight" - were harder for me to like but they are part of the charm of the record.

Calvary Cross, IMHO his greatest song.

I love the colliery brass on the title track

... guitar on When I Get to the Border!!!
i still remember hearing the end of this song for the first time as a kid and just thinking "ah, this is music for me!"

I wonder if Tom Verlaine did the same.

The only 'influence' I've ever heard Verlaine grudgingly admit to is Coltrane, and I think it's probably true that he never sat down and studied/copied Richard Thompson (or Jerry Garcia for that matter, who again sometimes sounds like Thompson, or like Verlaine).

Wouldn't expect TV to say anything else tbh.

i think verlaine copped to liking cippolina at some point, but yeah he's always said his main influences are 60s saxophonists

I thought he only listened cowboy music, according to Richard Hell.

I'M SO TIRED
OF POLLING
EVERY DAY

... sorry, Richard Lloyd. (xp)

Voted Rainbow.

think it's "withered and died" for me — Linda Thompson's vocals there are unbelievable. the best singer ever?

I've gone for Withered and Died, too. It's a shattering song.

title track over the abyssal depression of The End of the Rainbow. great Beatles-esque horns on that

calvary cross by a country mile

title track is so great -- obviously a "hit" in the Thompson universe, but I find it amazing it's not an actual huge hit that everyone knows. a perfect pop song.
this version kinda ramps up the pop elements (some spector references), but I think it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gkWKKeW8vU

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5935674b02e1d076fbe03e08/master/w_690,c_limit/r-and-l.gif

LOL the Thompsons were the first people I thought of when I watched that scene.

Me too! It can't be a deliberate reference tho... can it???????

So many great songs on this album, can't decide on one, so probably will go with "Wall of Death."

Sorry, wrong thread

xxp Someone in the room must've made the connection, if not Lynch then Frost. Richard & Linda aren't superstars but they're not like Searching for Sugarman or something, Lynch & Frost are both of the age to have at least a peripheral familiarity with Fairport Convention and the solo work.

When I get to the border. For the unsurpassed tradwank at the end.

Doesn't it also have a fancy time signature as well? 7/8 or 7/8 alternating with 4/4?

Yeah, James Redd etc., if "Wall of Death" had been on this album it would just make things that much harder.

I have idly messed around with the title track as a cover. I sometimes Americanize by saying "cab fare" rather than "car fare."

I'm ambivalent about "there's a silver band just marching up and down," which has no American analogue. I have been tempted to replace it with something less culturally rooted, like "the rednecks drive their Mustangs up and down."

thread has inspired me to throw this on, and today i'm really feeling down where the drunkards roll (but I already voted). Talk about timeless. I live in williamsburg brooklyn and the green velvet and silver buckles are still a-sporting in pools of barf just as in hogarth

Would add A Heart Needs a Home rather than Wall of Death, especially this Old Grey Whistle Test performance (the version on Hoky Poky is perhaps a bit overworked in comparison):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqViJyweNV0

New Mojo has an R + R&L buying guide wit Bright Lights at #1, Pour #2, Shoot #4.

Give us the rest of their top 10 (assuming it also encompasses rt solo)

I too am curious. Presuming Rumor & Sigh or Mirror Blue at #3?

Amnesia?

(Which, amusingly, I forgot about). Amnesia > Rumor > Mirror, I think.

No 3 was Mock Tudor.
I just looked at the new issue on the racks of the Newsagent so don't have a copy at hand for the next few days.

I can support mock Tudor in its live album guise as semi detached mock Tudor. The songs are great but I don't quite get on with their studio recordings

Okay, Mock Tudor is fine & good but I believe that Rumor & Sigh is superior to it.

Which album has "Valerie" on it?

Apparently Daring Adventures (I don't think I've ever heard it)

Pour Down Like Silver is so amazing.
I probably have it Pour>Shoot>Bright>Hokey

Daring Adventures is the first of the Frooms, right? It's got "Al Bowlly's in Heaven."

In general none of the frooms hang together as a full listen for me. They all have some songs on them that are all-time though.

I think they all have one or two or three all timers on them at least, some of them are mostly awesome. His past few are perhaps more consistent, but fewer future canon standouts.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Well, every track got a vote, that tells you something.

I will also stan for "Amnesia", definitely in my top 4, the drumming on that album is really monstrous, love it.

Amnesia is pretty fab, and the subsequent albums have too much flimFroomery and CD-era bloat but from which anybody could have burned an an excellent CD-R back in the day.

oooooh wow, tough tie!

Guess I'm not surprised but CC is so dire. Appreciate the feeling but Border and the title track just have more life.

Yeah, I've never loved "The Calvary Cross" either. That opening guitar bit is so captivating that it's always a let down when the song itself turns out to be something considerably more plodding and normal.

I assembled an RT list in February.

Well, every track got a vote, that tells you something.

Well done.

Ah, last post was meant to reply to Alfred.

Lovely results. Good to see this tie and that every track got a vote

"Daring Adventures is the first of the Frooms, right? It's got "Al Bowlly's in Heaven.""

and 'How Will I ever be Simple Again'

good results -- yeah, i think the only song i don't realllllly like here is "little beggar girl."
thompson-related -- the rhino handmade Shoot Out The Lights is on spotify. the live bonus disc has some insanely great stuff on it.

haha I didn't vote because I couldn't choose, could've made the difference

i like this rarity (from around the time of henry the human fly / bright lights, i think)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swrii8xO3dA

This is where I confess I've never been able to really get into any of the other Thompson albums, either solo or with Linda.

Same!

He is definitley best appreciated live.

surprised that anyone who digs bright lights wouldn't find plenty to love on henry the human fly, hokey pokey and pour down like silver — they're all of a piece to me.

yah seeing him live was pretty eye opening/mind blowing

i got a few of Richard's mid-80's albums in a remainder box in new york earlier this year, before i heard Bright Lights for the first time - they were ok, but i have to revisit them having heard this. one of them had a bunch of clocks on the cover

surprised that anyone who digs bright lights wouldn't find plenty to love on henry the human fly, hokey pokey and pour down like silver — they're all of a piece to me

I've never heard "Henry the Human Fly"! But, yes, those first three R & L albums are very much a set.

yah seeing him live was pretty eye opening/mind blowing

He's very funny and engaging. Plus he's just the best guitarist. I've never seen anyone play like that in person.

yeah after seeing him live i gained more of an appreciation for his post-linda years which i always thought were kinda cheezy

(xp) OTM. Also he can't half belt out a song, his singing is so much more powerful than you might expect.

xp kinda cheezy! can't believe you think that.
https://resources.tidal.com/images/cc75bbd5/de97/4229/ba12/b6805c5a1b16/1280x1280.jpg

Great interview with Linda.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/apr/12/they-said-i-was-worse-than-the-sex-pistols-folk-legend-linda-thompson-on-trashing-dressing-rooms-and-losing-her-voice

Excellent thanks
Had never seen this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnP07s_O14Q

Looking for a Richard interview I listened to earlier this week and saw this
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5bCNtLtEvdx9A3IKJI7Eas?si=7ec8d81819e24247
where he's on a show with Lemmy I think.

& the one I heard this week which is current
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4K6lez0e8FfYg5GKJZZL96?si=ae505645dacd452a

This album is obviously alltime, but jeez, I could vote for any of these:

The Calvary Cross
I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight
When I Get to the Border
Withered and Died
The End of the Rainbow
The Great Valerio
The Little Beggar Girl

But I would probably vote for that last one. I have such an irrational love for the narrator's cheerful cynicism, how it's almost worth it to her to be in her desperate situation just to be able to pull one over on these rich assholes.

the linda interview ignited one of my occasional attempts to enjoy nick drake but lol no dice, p good songs (some of them) but such a boring voice

The fact that Linda's brother is Brian Pettifer always kind of blows my mind.

xp switched to pour down like silver, much happier now*

*= sadder but in a good way

mark s, Bryter Layter is the one if you don't like the other two. the instrumentation and songwriting is more "fun" and less obviously folky

yes i know them all, i have the 1986 fruit-tree CD set and i've owned bryter layter on vinyl since i was a teenager -- BL is perkier yes but i think it's time to accept i am just not drawn to his voice

There's like three instrumentals on it, or sumthin', too.