POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread

Last concert playlist High Hall, Birmingham University on 2 May 1980:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QY4lujnk3t9loMB4PP8uqpoHismkkpOLNuGjFHRBMbWILmWSAFmoDQuavvIY50WvvYrx1BEzxKLBkjR68s6z7F-vH2JXuSocrHcvrm0DLfKogDDfE3ff_svq-hwyMCXj-EdWTkfnP8GN30WEdTPKxVQXjKq7JAmzb-SfqjiVJldo17Gmn_iKIkbOATaCzPirM68cPW_-w__5XE7RZPWqQ5dfML71x6hgXYn8WEpc5wJGiTXn3Ye65Tzk6bQNO8QWnevpxVf8UE8H0W9sNJl5BTioKUL-C_Rcw5cDiqSCUYaO3KRghBvvgxGcFsuwtsSm5eMmChYta99bgo_8cp1JvQaKKIJnXLA76mo2QiIBQ0aPEWGvdm-k_hBSd8QX5G6Pa0ZhG6D_0xtBnr_jhTwGGowr8QxgeBhblO4KTlPHUUUB_Ta0MoLg4YhY8FHSQcaWFSBgFYsRTyGNcS43NNOKeje39xTm-FCJBmktj7TK-VgKyMA0V-K-JV2vhps4aqMmsouAHIXmZEO9lji0RLEB6k8zpCXssU12IHTCrfZPMG9vMcRK1YrniwUusgAAuxCE8YYFvtuMGf1LdV0vbkJRYFZWkuvVNINphByowit3Fole2wuljBAH2tLfZ6quLVe5cSNrPCCICNA7l6mTqcfW6RT8vx-i3rlaBWg=w564-h949-no

https://youtu.be/xqHF3hdxz_M

Unpopular opinion - I'm sick to death of "Dead Souls." Never want to hear it again.

Only one of my votes has charted yet (Atrocity Exhibition). I guess I prefer different things from JD than most of you.

i give up

tomorrow will be the Top 6

i still have yet to watch "Control" going to try now:

https://youtu.be/japVdQlB5wE

I hasten to add that I do like most of these songs a lot, but not top 10.

I thought this was going to finish tonight.

This poll is great! Fully agree on the 'other projects' results.

And I was happy to discover The Other Two, who, I'm ashamed to admit, had note heard until now. To me "Selfish" sounds even more like Dubstar than Saint Etienne.

BTW, loving this countdown!

Really enjoying the reveal.

Great stuff. I'd have voted A Means To An End higher. Agree w. Brad it was the first chink of comprehending Closer.

This is my favorite version of Day of the Lords and it's pretty much the peak of JD live, at anytime, anywhere:

https://youtu.be/bQ4duQx0Zv0

The sound quality is iffy, but the intensity is off the charts. The volume overload destroying the recording helps you to appreciate it more.

This is the version I love, great sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K29bLvLka9A

^^^ Les Bains Douches is the only JD I need in my life

Great pictures Bee OK, thanks for doing this! I've voted for every song in the Top 10 so far. I have a feeling my whole Top 10 will show up. I thought "New Dawn Fades" would be higher.

a poster that used to post here, even ran an artist pol in the past, brought this up to me when they submitted their ballot. they just lurk now, so here it is, an Ian Curtis memorial:

http://salient.org.nz/2015/10/the-ian-curtis-memorial-wall-wallace-street-an-investigation/

Spotify is up to date thanks Nate!

ILM Joy Division: https://open.spotify.com/user/beeok/playlist/5jWdl7QBLtDJvmhCzw77l2

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/laddJdVUeb_Emx25vDp9OrHHiZhiCx9b2Mya5PnEzoEcY0oV_xnlrtLXeKyXAs29J43KCzv42EsysixJLGY7Hn2RVe_BymMmf8tiSq4woePXikWorlp3y6nVnc-NYP4jwG4WyyvF26vmIH4uQ5t5e-mahINfqFDiT33k8vBk1YnMyxKYKPyKfOTUg27GIunKmye5xD3vRv54kzTk3Noo2ngpPFrX0G7TUVoyfWnIH_X8-DbO_e4mIYKBPNUgqSPj-Nuca5UKVDK_cHvZTdEI1Cv9HDGtt-7FSK0dh1O9TGKR9sALQDFRyl-z-MNwnSeqhfSkCWGAGlClqZbRBu5pKHlZ5eXZIDAYqk8XsBfvE1p4qWlusBTbMU6z8Xq5CT3ZjALTpaura_kQ1z_z73b84H7FS1AP-EflYrQpxtkDaPefB4cqRz9dJGQSh8_ceBlWwUXzoR6FXxStK3iiDN5ppDJhsx4wl9d9wwEyChF5vw5tXn9w_XsC1e_DWEqydvV4Ps9J7zLftw3ZGQ7dKd5Zsfp1JE_T9Sx7dd7wrnN9ByGwex4S91bXQKLECIesU1gStyNfJ244AVSY6-USCYQqAu0mi3hB3UNT1YsV-OQCGAHza0WZbXAAohJ0aCkOF1v9iePv3FQomkCg8nQ5oaEY-CDuBPDyNb2KT1Y=w870-h401-no

6. Love Will Tear Us Apart
640 Points, 16 Votes, 3 Number Ones

My number 6 too. Perfect song but it has suffered a bit from overplay for me.

My number one. I figured it'd be the default winner of the poll, but I can understand how people would find it overplayed and want to vote for other songs.

It's a perfect song in every way, I've always found it equally romantic and heartbreaking. In the hands of almost any other band, the lyrics would give rise to a maudlin dirge of a melody, a weepy candlelit confessional. In Joy Division's hands it's an anthem, a jolt of fire to the heart.

i agree with both of you. it was my number 8 in the end, i just couldn't leave it out of my ballot.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/h7-sWaSngQqu5N3bb-OV2pnrhB_d_-p7G7OkISWCfnNZYIhUSfq6QKit467Iw90PdRpg9rUsx6-8tMPLjy1iKRx-_DNfnOauFDfqfVHW0TH9BgJHVvgPCLrqsp557lps5Evl97W8uKBaP4un_ixaMKuplQQ1iMGAADiiEBj3zg8tKxpQOKNuSvm7B_rk3NM6vUzRZNK4nGOs_MLahfbTGAY28BUZFVfUSiT9OQh5qNd9xWsPrvhBFP_i3QSdcpczUdE3jugpZDNbH0iKYgwPHcKchBhIMpXnSWfPJZKfLvo2JWd1-iAVUjPN_r2YkfFmAuu0peJhWrMpW_nBTZOGGYw6XIBcvx-BOwNzVnYdjzDSsPUuR0PGpD6LPvDb7INYvafYhjSGLayOTdGhvTF7F-VrxioDOYqKUrDk3tszHXcuLaxvqI23RkRIfVNwcJvopUXZmWgtPXs_cz9kjO1J01RZ3DX2A_aEM2SZ3RxQUtpQNWO74UueTLrNTvBd_PIcSumbnaCWMymKdO5R_CEnMyAke8JG6Nl09Y-eskQW3nFTwQhfHETWWlZyOrxKUuajgxTBbOnIq9-Nt74C8hxFloPID2vQ1ZJWmx2gGVX_8TuKxFpIgOBk5DY5_tvnRW2WwLN3lKYb1EuOQYGRKrZmNBlD7Ay3Q_rs7d0=w870-h400-no

5. Twenty Four Hours
661 Points, 17 Votes, 3 Number Ones

also got three number 1 votes!

Top 5

Twenty Four Hours woulda been my number 1! (OK, probably Atmosphere, but that feels like a given, a track carved into the mountains.)

My number 8 and my favorite song on Closer. Re-listening to it now I should've put it higher. The tempo change in the instrumental breaks is great.

I love "Twenty Four Hours" - the Peel session is so much rawer than the album version so that's my go-to listen.

I'd no chance to vote in this, but love the roll-out. The pictures are amazing, too. Don't be too down on this Bee OK, you're doing a great job imo.

thanks, i needed that. it has been a little disheartening running this poll.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/g7L0XWYS5uCj8Km8QspQsFZeAdy99KTdakbtsC8pbiaaWsfzPWcCXgmQHXujz6xnXvFf-T-Dg4WxRK6epxjk1U77JzR2I5yIuyf6fYXCHXqSQAsBaT5un6H_iQwCDJ5wt1aHhj1lxUsLxSTJgZ___AUmRtvPj7z3wecc5z9BAtLtSPVcTb4DVYCZNGCAx6ShUDgUpzwqEH7fvo_DvwzC5gJpRDiEHMNljuXCWaAg5ME9v8EHiNfx_nok1pnkZCrdOj-dsJUaS747AJzmocHmMZeyK_cwlGNc7fQL7fjZOt0VUUR-ua3uJWIa6e4LqEFp5rRHGe9JarnPg7bXCn8jsv9T6K_1PmrRPGQEWdVW-m6B_jH2Y2pIbR2hDF730vudOE1RJ-AJGSAptoxL3blJV71OVr7YLSkFpUzkH1gJI9G9fD_-7WFdr-DLxKn1VjBu3xJvdP5Dvap2K8ZSK4a-GwsRPMU3e_DSZBTmd6tXGJPTUp3-dBXWRCMcivhC9L1yTYgnauyY40IY6KQI-NIYJP-PXMH-hp5h-VXD8CrTNanq2HonCDqi3GvxW3uH5eeAKaiRC35kfPKThk_-SrLxJyaHP1IKeuN7OsZ5FkgcnHcnzo8NVbo2Ik55gRTSIXSooGoCKnsrgVZiDYHnCswIozfhN7yzAvwwaJg=w870-h401-no

4. Shadowplay
787 Points, 20 Votes, 1 Number One

another 100 point jump

this is pretty special:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mpZUPPTyjo

One of the hardest decisions of only having 10 spots on my ballot was leaving out "Shadowplay." I'm glad to see it didn't need my help.

"Shadowplay" was also my number 4. so it placed perfectly for me.

My favorite Sumner guitar work. Going from Electronic to "Shadowplay" was a shock for me.

I had it at number 4 too. Great guitar hook that is somewhat a bit different for them. Almost hard rock?

Haha x-post with both of you.

Shadowplay is fucking great

Everything on the first Peel Session was bettered by their proper studio versions, but everything on the second Peel Session slays their studio counterparts (Love Will Tear Us Apart being a possible exception, I've gone back and forth with my preference for each version for the past twenty five years).

i just got in golfed with this: http://joydiv.org.

1980 Cancelled US Tour:

Little is known about the venues that Joy Division intended to play on their US tour. We know that Hurrah's and Tuts were planned, and we know that New Order played at some of the same venues when they got out to the States in September. From this information it seems likely that the cancelled tour included the following venues. The dates in brackets are when New Order eventually played.

21 May Hurrah - New York (26 Sept) Info
22 May Hurrah - New York (26 Sept) Info
23 May Hurrah - New York (26 Sept) Info
25 May The Edge - Toronto Info
26 May Bookies Detroit Info
27 May Tuts - W.Belmont, Chicago Info
28 May Merlyn's - Madison, Wisconsin Info
29 May Duffy's - Minneapolis Info
31 May 9:30 Club, Washington Info
1 June Tier 3 (aka TR3) - New York (27 Sept) Info
3 June American Indian Center, San Francisco or Info
4 June American Indian Center, San Francisco Info
7 June Madame Wong's, Los Angeles Info
8 June Flipper's Roller Boogie Palace, Los Angeles Info
9 June The Starwood, Sunset Blvd - Los Angeles Info
?? Maxwell's - Hoboken, New Jersey (20 Sept) Info
?? Bogart's Cincinnati Info
?? The Underground - Boston (30 Sept) Info

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/r3jxMRbHSPjJNN9CgILBYJhJdETUejwUmRfJiCznTTdsZA-1NrIOlbXv7puDkVuw9M8RWmVdxv0OK3vMFbmmUAv2bnDEA4SVY-7Z2WqUylogRJ-JIkpxt8360paUmIS2-P4WVZtE4vLXVcBQgyndU4k_Z43oUxsWbTGzJ0v8jM9wvpbM2y3CkNbBVIbp2z2gAoASA6GAfZl-_e-V-onfP6M6ZwLbiCwJYPJ3hbGL_PCjWf3KpixfU9qx9k2y37rdpmiHWq6QZ3j0XtXF_i1PuaBnvszQB6GuJO3nvAAS1_kJofkjkI2eCFHkBxFHKXotXg775VQBFCCPuc43AGRlT09CBx7fwsPoNr7zQ9SBIJiRdgI5D1E-3waASbcujyJBCCJ9a2H8qSEZNAM9R77qp7BHRQQGiLsoPw5bqmEQTVm5Q53gci1CeIQp4pfGIkTr9M3e7rA3d4DE1yDOFMXp2IHhn3ZrI3Z8lgYQbGOOSFCC0Jk-pyNgJy6mmCz-CNkDfXBGBcLotLpHtvryI4zJ67tglkVMmP12iBnsNpOOl_f1-lCEte6CyykbddoPDZrSTRGq5yBXFXVFwcj8TdR6umFB2tGHwLjkk-MfOTV1n1TArXDh3tBXe4iAI_B1TLIYHF52hHuidIGwx8eAhXKlHMcurvIvNNYdhKc=w871-h400-no

3. Atmosphere
811 Points, 20 Votes, 1 Number One

i think this was my first exposure to Joy Division through this video.

https://youtu.be/1EdUjlawLJM

This falls under "great but overplayed" for me. I'm glad it wasn't number one, but I would have been fine with it going the poll too, even though I didn't vote for it.

Fine with it topping the poll...

Yeah I expected it to win. Majestic. Probably their greatest moment.

I'm missing a song. Which is dumb.

Dance, dance, dance... and?

and it's the song that seems to be the most direct antecedent of the sound of New Order

Walked In Line! Obvs.