POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread

My number 6 too. Perfect song but it has suffered a bit from overplay for me.

My number one. I figured it'd be the default winner of the poll, but I can understand how people would find it overplayed and want to vote for other songs.

It's a perfect song in every way, I've always found it equally romantic and heartbreaking. In the hands of almost any other band, the lyrics would give rise to a maudlin dirge of a melody, a weepy candlelit confessional. In Joy Division's hands it's an anthem, a jolt of fire to the heart.

i agree with both of you. it was my number 8 in the end, i just couldn't leave it out of my ballot.

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5. Twenty Four Hours
661 Points, 17 Votes, 3 Number Ones

also got three number 1 votes!

Top 5

Twenty Four Hours woulda been my number 1! (OK, probably Atmosphere, but that feels like a given, a track carved into the mountains.)

My number 8 and my favorite song on Closer. Re-listening to it now I should've put it higher. The tempo change in the instrumental breaks is great.

I love "Twenty Four Hours" - the Peel session is so much rawer than the album version so that's my go-to listen.

I'd no chance to vote in this, but love the roll-out. The pictures are amazing, too. Don't be too down on this Bee OK, you're doing a great job imo.

thanks, i needed that. it has been a little disheartening running this poll.

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4. Shadowplay
787 Points, 20 Votes, 1 Number One

another 100 point jump

this is pretty special:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mpZUPPTyjo

One of the hardest decisions of only having 10 spots on my ballot was leaving out "Shadowplay." I'm glad to see it didn't need my help.

"Shadowplay" was also my number 4. so it placed perfectly for me.

My favorite Sumner guitar work. Going from Electronic to "Shadowplay" was a shock for me.

I had it at number 4 too. Great guitar hook that is somewhat a bit different for them. Almost hard rock?

Haha x-post with both of you.

Shadowplay is fucking great

Everything on the first Peel Session was bettered by their proper studio versions, but everything on the second Peel Session slays their studio counterparts (Love Will Tear Us Apart being a possible exception, I've gone back and forth with my preference for each version for the past twenty five years).

i just got in golfed with this: http://joydiv.org.

1980 Cancelled US Tour:

Little is known about the venues that Joy Division intended to play on their US tour. We know that Hurrah's and Tuts were planned, and we know that New Order played at some of the same venues when they got out to the States in September. From this information it seems likely that the cancelled tour included the following venues. The dates in brackets are when New Order eventually played.

21 May Hurrah - New York (26 Sept) Info
22 May Hurrah - New York (26 Sept) Info
23 May Hurrah - New York (26 Sept) Info
25 May The Edge - Toronto Info
26 May Bookies Detroit Info
27 May Tuts - W.Belmont, Chicago Info
28 May Merlyn's - Madison, Wisconsin Info
29 May Duffy's - Minneapolis Info
31 May 9:30 Club, Washington Info
1 June Tier 3 (aka TR3) - New York (27 Sept) Info
3 June American Indian Center, San Francisco or Info
4 June American Indian Center, San Francisco Info
7 June Madame Wong's, Los Angeles Info
8 June Flipper's Roller Boogie Palace, Los Angeles Info
9 June The Starwood, Sunset Blvd - Los Angeles Info
?? Maxwell's - Hoboken, New Jersey (20 Sept) Info
?? Bogart's Cincinnati Info
?? The Underground - Boston (30 Sept) Info

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3. Atmosphere
811 Points, 20 Votes, 1 Number One

i think this was my first exposure to Joy Division through this video.

https://youtu.be/1EdUjlawLJM

This falls under "great but overplayed" for me. I'm glad it wasn't number one, but I would have been fine with it going the poll too, even though I didn't vote for it.

Fine with it topping the poll...

Yeah I expected it to win. Majestic. Probably their greatest moment.

I'm missing a song. Which is dumb.

Dance, dance, dance... and?

and it's the song that seems to be the most direct antecedent of the sound of New Order

Walked In Line! Obvs.

lol

The song was originally released on 18 March 1980 by the label Sordide Sentimental as a France-only single under the title "Licht und Blindheit" (German for "Light and Blindness"). It was limited to 1578 copies[citation needed] and featured the track "Dead Souls" as the B-side. John Peel played "Atmosphere" for the first time on his show on 11 March 1980 and "Dead Souls" the following night.

Following the death of lead singer Ian Curtis in May 1980, "Atmosphere" was released as a single along with "She's Lost Control". "Atmosphere" was the A-side for the UK release but the B-side for the USA release. "She's Lost Control" is an alternative version of the one that appears on the band's debut album Unknown Pleasures. The single peaked at number 1 in New Zealand in August 1981, and it would later re-chart there in July 1984 (number 17) and when it was reissued in August 1988 (number 5). "Atmosphere" also hit number 34 in the UK Singles Chart during June 1988, and pick the number 2 spot on the UK indie chart in July 1988.

The single was re-released in 1988 to coincide with the release of the compilation album Substance.

I've been waiting for a guide to come and ... tell me what's #1

Oh

this poll has been interesting, to say the least.

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2. Transmission
825 Points, 19 Votes, 5 Number Ones

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1. Disorder
848 Points, 21 Votes, 6 Number Ones

there it is

Awesome stuff Bee. Thanks for the fun. I'm now gonna listen to the vinyl copy of Closer that so, so confused me at 15. I bought it really cheap cos the guy in a Chester record shop thought it was an ep. Still think A Means To An End got a raw deal. Top 5 for me.

Joy Division Full Results

26 Ballots
38 Songs

1 Disorder 848 Points 21 Votes 6 Number Ones
2 Transmission 825 Points 19 Votes 5 Number Ones
3 Atmosphere 811 Points 20 Votes 1 Number One
4 Shadowplay 787 Points 20 Votes 1 Number One
5 Twenty Four Hours 661 Points 17 Votes 3 Number Ones
6 Love Will Tear Us Apart 640 Points 16 Votes 3 Number Ones
7 She Lost Control 620 Points 16 Votes 2 Number Ones
8 New Dawn Fades 506 Points 13 Votes 1 Number One
9 Dead Souls 444 Points 12 Votes 1 Number One
10 Decades 425 Points 11 Votes 1 Number One
11 Heart and Soul 351 Points 9 Votes
12 Isolation 323 Points 9 Votes
13 Ceremony 258 Points 6 Votes
14 Digital 252 Points 7 Votes
15 The Eternal 238 Points 6 Votes 1 Number One
16 Day of the Lords 233 Points 6 Votes 1 Number One
17 Atrocity Exhibition 216 Points 6 Votes
18 A Means To An End 197 Points 6 Votes
19 Insight 151 Points 4 Votes
20 These Days 143 Points 4 Votes
21 Passover 135 Points 4 Votes
22 Warsaw 111 Points 3 Votes
23 Something Must Break 104 Points 3 Votes
24 ice age 72 Points 2 Votes
25 Novelty 70 Points 2 Votes
26 Interzone 68 Points 2 Votes
27 Sound of Music 67 Points 2 Votes
28 The Only Mistake  46 Points 1 Vote
29 The Kill 43 Points 1 Vote
30 Candidate 40 Points 1 Vote
31 Exercise One 40 Points 1 Vote
32 autosuggestion 38 Points 1 Vote
33 No Love Lost 35 Points 1 Vote
34 Colony (Peel Session) 34 Points 1 Vote
35 I Remember Nothing 34 Points 1 Vote
36 Wilderness 34 Points 1 Vote
37 leaders of men 33 Points 1 Vote
38 Incubation 32 Points 1 Vote

thanks everyone, especially to all the voters!

I really would have voted for Walked in Line as well.

great to see Disorder at #1, what a perfect song. some of my favourite guitar from Sumner, the eerie background ambience, and feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling!

Thanks for running the poll Bee OK!

my ballots:

Disorder
Ceremony
Atmosphere
Transmission
New Dawn Fades
Shadowplay
Twenty Four Hours
Love Will Tear Us Apart
She's Lost Control
Isolation

Getting Away With It
Reality
Some Distant Memory
Gangster
Disappointed
Get The Message
For You
Dark Angel
Tighten Up
What Do You Want From Me

New Order - Technique
New Order - Substance
New Order - Brotherhood
New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Electronic - Electronic
New Order - Low-Life

my ballot:

Joy Division:

1. Atmosphere
2. Transmission
3. Atrocity Exhibition
4. Shadowplay
5. Digital
6. New Dawn Fades
7. Twenty Four Hours
8. Love Will Tear Us Apart
9. Passover
10. Disorder

New Order solo or other groups:

1. Some Distant Memory
2. Get the Message
3. Getting Away With It
4. Gangstar
5. For You
6. Try All You Want
7. What Do You Want From Me?
8. The Patience of a Saint
9. Feel Every Beat
10. Tighten Up

Albums:

1. Unknown Pleasures
2. Technique
3. Power, Corruption & Lies
4. Closer
5. Substance – Joy Division
6. Substance – New Order
7. Low-Life

on #1,#2 and #4, ILM and I are of one mind
1. Disorder
2/ Transmission
3 Heart and Soul
4. Shadowplay
5. Digital
6. 24 Hours
7. Atmosphere
8. Dead Souls
9. Warsaw
10. New Dawn Fades

Let me know if anyone wants me to post your ballot?

(For those who have lost theirs)

I would have expected "Disorder" to fall behind "Transmission" and "Atmosphere," but hey, what do I know? Interesting results. Thanks Bee!

Top to bottom...

Transmission
Atmosphere
The Kill
Exercise One
Ice Age
Disorder
Atrocity Exhibition
Colony (Peel Session)
Sound of Music (Peel Session)
Twenty Four Hours (Peel Session)

Out of Control (Chemical Brothers)
Getting Away With It (Electronic)
What Do You Want From Me? (Monaco)
Get The Message (Electronic)
Wheels Over Indian Trails (Stanton Miranda)
Tighten Up (Electronic)
The Patience of a Saint (Electronic)
Forbidden City (Electronic)
Tasty Fish (The Other Two)
Selfish (The Other Two)

Movement
Still
Substance (Joy Division)
The Complete BBC Recordings
Power, Corruption & Lies
Substance (New Order)
Unknown Pleasures

My ballot. I included a Sumner production; I could've included Hooky's production of "Elephant Stone" too, I suppose.

1. Transmission
2. Decades
3. Isolation
4. Shadowplay
5. Heart and Soul
6. Love Will Tears Us Apart
7. Atmosphere
8. She’s Lost Control
9. Disorder
10. Atrocity Exhibition

1. Electronic – Get the Message
2. Quando Quango – Love Tempo
3. Electronic – Getting Away with It
4. Monaco – What Do You Want From Me
5. The Other Two – Selfish
6. Electronic – Forbidden City