thread to dis hyped 2017 releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

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let's keep it in here, folks.

Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

Oh yay I can post here AND in 'vent your bullshit'! Maybe the latter can be non-2017-specific though

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

yes this is just to keep your attention during the EOY poll, submitted with love

Bjork - I found this slow, gloomy, and unengaging. her mix that she did for Mixmag (?) was great, though.

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

*warms up FPing finger*

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

happy to help!

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:45 (nine months ago) Permalink

this is a safe space

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

;-)

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

otm, I've never understood the hype.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

Angel olsens new one gets seriously dire in the second half. Love her but hate to say it's a bummer record

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad

brimstead, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:58 (nine months ago) Permalink

Caretaker's not hyped though. It's got a steady following, but that's something else iirc.

Anyway I can't get enough of it.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:59 (nine months ago) Permalink

no defences of albums itt imo

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:01 (nine months ago) Permalink

I've said this elsewhere I'm sure but the Julien Baker love-in is an album late; the new one is flat and mostly a disappointment

Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 21:02 (nine months ago) Permalink

Where's the fun in that? xp

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:02 (nine months ago) Permalink

OK fine

but no holds barred. except like actual bigotry

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:06 (nine months ago) Permalink

KING KRULE is kind of boring.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:10 (nine months ago) Permalink

oh yeah I can't take his voice for a second

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:11 (nine months ago) Permalink

Not as boring as The National though

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:12 (nine months ago) Permalink

That Big Thief album is boring as well. A charisma vacuum.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

:o you're dead to me

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

I do like the Big Thief album a lot :(

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

LCD Soundsystem should be banned on the basis of that atrocious album cover alone. The music stinks, is completely irrelevant up to the point of self-charicture, and seeing critics hailing this has-been baffles me.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

*caricature

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

thoroughly agree with every dis so far btw*. sleeve ur emperor palpatine

*not heard the bjork or big thief yet

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

Guided By Voices - the songs are twice as long and half as good (tbh I dunno how hyped this really was, but let's open the thread up to all contenders regardless of hype level/EOY standings)

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:19 (nine months ago) Permalink

I tried listening to the War on Drugs album once and I had to check the album wasn't starting over at some point. Still can't remember any of the songs in there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:20 (nine months ago) Permalink

@Moka, same here. It's drab.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:21 (nine months ago) Permalink

Lorde is the new Carly Rae Jepsen - "pop" music that non-professionals spit out after a single taste, but which critics will continue to ride for forever.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:22 (nine months ago) Permalink

Xp that is sort of the point with WoD - it's aural valium for the inhibited and the terminally nostalgic.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:24 (nine months ago) Permalink

Me included.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:24 (nine months ago) Permalink

Sounds like WoD do The Caretaker better than The Caretaker does!

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

I can't really diss it because I don't hate it at all but Yaeji seems overrated as hell to me. There's just not much going on musically and lyrically... every song seems she runs out of ideas and she just resorts to repeating words in the same monotonic voice.

Again, I don't hate it but I don't see what's so special about it either or why she's making it into so many EOY best songs lists.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

Ok I'm done taking those out of my chest... I think... those are the ones frustrating me about their roaring approval.

Well, those an Bodak Yellow heh

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:27 (nine months ago) Permalink

i rate the yaeji EPs (2 isn't as good imo) but found it pretty easy to get burned out on her stuff. Not much replay value as there's not a whole lot of depth, ya

laurel halo album was a disappointment for me, way too esoteric and weird for weird sake

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

Xxp Kirby has a concept, though. Granduciel is walking in socks over cold coals.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

I still don't really get what everyone liked so much about Black Beatles. I don't hate it, just does nothing much for me.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

I think this is the first Laurel Halo album I like mainly on the strength of Moontalk alone but yes... it's way too dependent on its own quirks and weirdness.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

moontalk is an amazing song! yeah

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

moka check out the king felix stuff if you haven't heard it, "spring" by king felix and her halo album "king felix"

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

I did not know about that project. Listening to spring now and it sounds amazing! Thanks for the recommendation.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

:) sweet

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:49 (nine months ago) Permalink

the Fever Ray album was really disappointing to me

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:41 (nine months ago) Permalink

why? show your work :)

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

sleeve, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

Fever Ray was also so-so for me. I like the knife and the first fever ray album a lot, so I thought for sure this would be one of my favorite albums of the year but alas it ended being one of the most dissapointing ones for me. It’s just so hard to sit through... even harder than ‘shaking the habitual’ and that’s saying something.

I can get past the hamfisted lyrics (either way lyrics has never been her strong point), but the textures and production are sort of uninteresting too, the middle of the album is specially boring or annoying and contains some of her worst songs ever (“this country” really wtf is up with that).

I don’t know... I guess it’s just alright in small doses but I don’t want ‘just alright’ from her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

Ok maybe the production isn’t uninteresting... but it’s too harsh and irritating more often than not. I get that maybe that was her intent with this particular album but I’m not a masochist, sorry.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah, my love for the first Fever Ray album is immense, this one is not bAd exactly, just very disappointing

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 16 December 2017 10:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

yeah I agree with all of that Moka

the production mostly feels like lesser retreads of Silent Shout and the Fever Ray s/t, and the songwriting lacks the memorable melodies. the lyrics are a step down too - Silent Shout especially could be quite evocative but they're more hamfisted here and the BDSM subject matter of some of it is completely uninteresting to me

ufo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 11:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

heh this = lack of money > money

King Krule was the overrated hype of the year for me. Could barely get through that mess 3 times.

So I will probably dig his next record :P

Ludo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:04 (nine months ago) Permalink

Fever ray album is fucking great, just took time to grow on me. I mean it's not that different texturally from
The debut it's just more hyper kinetic arrangement wise. Give it some time, mustn't hurry

In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:21 (nine months ago) Permalink

credit to imago, though, i thought this:

i mean sure like it and write about it but there's massive cognitive dissonance between the album you're all talking about and the album i'm hearing

was gonna be this:

"i mean sure like it and write about it but there's massive cognitive dissonance between the album you're all talking about and the album it actually is"

big difference there that i appreciate

alpine static, Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

fine well i wish i just understood people better then

no you dont

brimstead, Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(sorry)

brimstead, Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

if people can't talk about records they don't get in the "talk about records you don't get" thread where the fuck can they

(I haven't heard the full album; the tracks I heard were nice but not necessarily outstanding for me)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Fair enough I guess this should be a safe space for hating and strawperson-ing

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah ilx really needed one of those

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

anyway i wasn't railing against the thread idea itself just the particular way lj did it so i'm confused

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this thread should be burned to the ground

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

People can hate on what they want, but questioning other listeners' underlying motivations is a technically very difficult power-move to execute without looking small-minded and intellectually lazy, so in most cases it's a rhetorical manoeuvre best avoided or at least saved for real "in emergency break glass" situations, which is probably not "why do people enjoy this perfectly pleasant power-pop album".

Tim F, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Nah.

In the anachronistic spirit of this thread, I'll try to contribute to it once my to-listen list finally hits 2018, so if all goes well, some time next year.

xp

pomenitul, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Without questioning anyone's motivations (for anything), I'm also a little surprised at the passionate reception for the Beths (it's fine, but I thought I'd like it more, based on descriptions).

But I've felt the same way about other stuff here recently that folks have gone gaga over. I wish I could hear more stuff with the same ears, I'd rather love stuff than not love it!

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

But I've felt the same way about other stuff here recently that folks have gone gaga over. I wish I could hear more stuff with the same ears, I'd rather love stuff than not love it!

― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, September 6, 2018 2:33 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is largely where I am with music in general right now. I love stuff but it is generally not the stuff others love, to the point where I've wondered if this is some kind of defense mechanism

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Eh, you're overthinking it. As long as you're willing to give everything a fair shake, like whatever you like and stick with it. I stopped looking for a community of like-minded listeners a long time ago, and that's ok.

pomenitul, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Tim otm. If one can't see the difference between "i don't get this thing everyone seems to love" and "i don't get this thing everyone seems to love, probably because it's a cool look" then *shrug*

more to my point, same goes for "hmm, to each his own" vs "actually no the album is bad" in response to ppl talking about something they love.

alpine static, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm never really mystified about why others like what they like, but I often make the mistake of thinking the stuff that I like is more popular or appealing than it is.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I generally try to append something like "IMO" or "to my ears" when I express a negative opinion up in here (even tho I think that should be implied), just to avoid making those kind of declarative statements. (I guess I could try not posting anything negative at all, but...)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

There's a difference between a negative opinion and specifically attributing ulterior motives to people who have positive opinions

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want to do that... who knows why those freakin' weirdos like the crazy shit they like, they must all be high (lol)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

anyway the Beths album didn't come out in 2017 so technically it's ineligible for this thread :D

alpine static, Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this trust fund album is badass, i've been sleeping, thanks lj

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

some good came of this then :D

imago, Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

People can hate on what they want, but questioning other listeners' underlying motivations is a technically very difficult power-move to execute without looking small-minded and intellectually lazy ...

― Tim F

this happens constantly here though

the late great, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Of course

Tim F, Thursday, 6 September 2018 21:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Though the upgraded version (which I am more likely to fall back on myself) is “you listen to this thing rather than that thing because you have dubious aesthetic predilections and/or you are part of hype circles and gatekeeper discourses which structurally advantage the reputation of this thing over that thing even though that thing is better.”

Which is related but not quite the same thing. It’s more of a “forgive them father, for they know what they do” brand of condescension.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 September 2018 21:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I like the "you're a hypocrite b/c you like THIS but not THIS" move (which I'm sure I've fallen into myself)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 6 September 2018 21:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i think that "upgraded version" way a lot which wld probably be better if it led me to pose questions (not prescriptions!) to people i think fall into those groups instead of privately grumbling to friends or myself like i usually do

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 6 September 2018 21:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I guess I don’t really care whether ppl like the same stuff I do (nothing I can do about it); though it is kind of a bummer when you mention liking something on here, and 3 or 4 ppl chime in, “Nah, that sucks.”

In those cases, I actually would like to know their reasons, so there’s at least basis for discussion...

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 02:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

for me, music is social. i like music more when people of my acquaintance also like it - i'd say this has happened with the beths and previously with king. in light of that it's probably always going to be divisive when somebody goes out of their way to dissent from that.

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

timely bump of the yves tumor thread - I've just listened to the album and am glad to report that it is nowt but trendy mithering, sounds like some third-rate mego producer trying to be king krule or something. next

imago, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I guess I don’t really care whether ppl like the same stuff I do (nothing I can do about it); though it is kind of a bummer when you mention liking something on here, and 3 or 4 ppl chime in, “Nah, that sucks.”

I'd much rather hear that than mentioning liking something and zero people chime in -- at least it means it's getting discussion and getting heard

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

exactly - I bet at least 3 ppl listened to The Beths on the strength of my opposition. perhaps those same ppl will now listen to Yves Tumor

imago, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i don't even know what a "mego producer" is. like those crappy giant '70s action figures?

i'd rather say nothing about a record that doesn't interest me than go out of my way to express my disinterest. i can't fathom why anyone would be interested in acclaimed albums i find to be only fair-to-middling.

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Friday, 7 September 2018 23:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Agreed on principle, let’s just have this as the parquet courts hate thread tho plz

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I tried to turn the Parquet Courts thread into the Parquet Courts hate thread, but no one was biting :P

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's all been downhill since Light Up Gold

sleeve, Saturday, 8 September 2018 00:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Right??

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 01:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this never stopped being the parquet courts hate thread!

imago, Saturday, 8 September 2018 09:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Though the upgraded version (which I am more likely to fall back on myself) is “you listen to this thing rather than that thing because you have dubious aesthetic predilections and/or you are part of hype circles and gatekeeper discourses which structurally advantage the reputation of this thing over that thing even though that thing is better.”

Which is related but not quite the same thing. It’s more of a “forgive them father, for they know what they do” brand of condescension.

― Tim F

usually in my case it's some version of "you only think W is good because you haven't really heard X Y Z"

the late great, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

sounds like some third-rate mego producer trying to be king krule or something

maybe i've heard too little king krule but the yves record doesn't sound like that at all to me

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

for one thing "honesty" is just excellent techno basically

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's got a lot of sides imo

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I have no idea whats hyped unless the discogs price is suddenly very high but thats almost everything even the lads at Scope in Rhyl are in on it

and I dont really hear any of the really bad records until the end of the year when the lad Claus turns up with 77 of them but I never remember the names. The problem is I also dont remember the names of the ones I do like and my colour coding for records is in disarray and remembering the names of your records is for bureaucrats and local businessmen

saer, Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

hey now

the late great, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Not sure how I feel about Yves Tumor yet, but it definitely doesn't sound like King Krule

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

usually in my case it's some version of "you only think W is good because you haven't really heard X Y Z"

― the late great

"W" is a great van der graaf generator b-side and is miles beyond anything page, squire, and white managed to fart out

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i dont think the yves tumor/king krule comparison is totally off base, obviously they aren't very similar sonically but there's a similar enough atmosphere they both create that listening to the new yves tumor did make me think 'oh this is sort of like what king krule was going for except way way better'

ufo, Sunday, 9 September 2018 02:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yves record reminds me of chino amobi
had a first listen to it this morning, i like it

nxd, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 10:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The atmosphere on the King Krule record is very laid back though, isn't it? A bit distant but content and slightly warm. On Yves Tumor, I find it full of emotional tension and slightly anxious. Very different IMO.

ninthyoung, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 11:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I have no idea what any of that is but you've just described a day out in the asda

saer, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 11:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

“Lana Dull Rey”

About 66 results (0.97 seconds)

growing up in publix (morrisp), Saturday, 22 September 2018 20:07 (four days ago) Permalink


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