Billboard Hot 100 Top Ten (2018)

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A thread to keep tabs on whatever's floating around the top of the charts in 2018!

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:49 (nine months ago) Permalink

do we not already have a Cardi B thread?

porg and bess (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:51 (nine months ago) Permalink

Currently:

1. Ed Sheeran "Perfect" - competent British singer / songwriter with another hit
2. Post Malone "Rockstar" - like a boring version of Future that gets to be a pop star
3. Camila Cabello "Havana" - cordial
4. Lil Pump "Gucci Gang" - just a lil guy that prob has a big soundcloud following
5. G-Eazy "No Limit" - cardi B
6. Imagine Dragons "Thunder" - imagine dragons biting these guys in half and / or burning them with fireballs
7. Migos "Motorsport" - cardi B & Nicki Minaj
8. Sam Smith "Too Good at Goodbyes" - :|
9. Mariah Carey "All I Want For Christmas" - this rules
10. Halsey "Bad At Love" - this is okay!

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 22:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

do we not already have a Cardi B thread?

― porg and bess (voodoo chili)

get you somebody that can do both?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 23:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

good thread idea, was thinking it would be nice to follow the chart a bit more (even if most of it is shit)

my sister went to a shawn mendes concert last year and I had no idea who the guy was but apparently he has to chart topping albums...

niels, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 09:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

*apparently he has had two chart topping albums

niels, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 09:45 (nine months ago) Permalink

I shamefully enjoy the video for shawn mendes' "there's nothing holding me back"

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 11:01 (nine months ago) Permalink

not sure how it's possible to have listened to top 40 radio at all for the past two years and not have heard a shawn mendes song

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 14:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

(they are all terrible)

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 14:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

I will admit that I never intentionally listen to top 40 radio (mostly hear it in shops, bars, taxis)

niels, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 14:55 (nine months ago) Permalink

every time I turn on top 40 radio they're playing songs from like 2012

President Keyes, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 15:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

i like shawn mendes's song "mercy"

if this thread is going to be at all interesting we might have to broaden the discussion somewhat to songs that are a little farther down the chart, it can get pretty stagnant up there

dyl, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

the idea was to ~mostly~ be about the Top Ten to keep it from being a general purpose Billboard / pop music discussion. that being said, it's totally cool if it broadens to stuff a little farther down, particularly for songs that might go top ten. then we could have something to, like, root for or whatever. or, if there is a turd in the punch bowl for which we need to brace ourselves

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

i definitely caved to "there's nothing holding me back" at some point last year

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

Surprised at Motorsport going top 10, Culture II is going to be massive, probably. Three white rappers in the top 10? Is that some kind of record or perfectly normal?

Frederik B, Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

Also, great idea for a thread.

Frederik B, Thursday, 4 January 2018 00:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

Does anyone like G-Eazy? For a guy with a couple of rap hits he seems surprisingly lacking in charisma, or really talent for anything besides looking cool in a leather jacket.

JRN, Thursday, 4 January 2018 01:11 (nine months ago) Permalink

the first time i heard the g-eazy song i figured there was little chance of it becoming big even with the well-timed cardi b feature, naturally it's now on its way to being the biggest hit of his career lol

idk if anyone's ever kept track of how many white rappers have been successful at the same time.* but there's more where that came from! "let you down" by the white christian rapper nf (he somehow sounds like a crass combination of eminem and every other white rapper who's ever been successful since) is #17 and rising -- pop and pop-leaning stations are the source of the majority of its radio support. and speaking of em, his ed sheeran collab "river" takes a big nosedive this week, but will likely recover in the coming weeks (once again due to pop stations, who are already jumping on it).

as recently as 2016, the seemingly best bet for an artist like g-eazy to get exposure was to focus on pop radio, get bebe rexha to sing the hook, and guest on britney spears's lead. now that the sound pop radio favors is becoming less of a sure shot chart- and especially streaming-wise (big pop radio hits are now routinely missing or just barely scraping the hot 100's top 10), it's actually just as viable a strategy for him, even as a white artist, to try to carve out space at urban radio. (the pop side has so far barely touched "no limit" even though they played the shit out of "me myself & i".)

meanwhile, the only rap song to cross from the r&b/hip-hop airplay top 10 to the pop airplay top 10 in 2017 was post malone's. (the other two songs that did so were "wild thoughts" and "unforgettable" -- "that's what i like" crossed in the opposite direction.) i don't know if i've ever seen a situation like this in my lifetime, where music by black artists is popping so distinctly on the charts but is being almost entirely passed up by supposed top 40 stations.

what i find myself wondering in light of all this is whether we will see urban radio ceding more space to the increasing number of white artists who want to make on-trend music, leaving less room for black artists, especially emerging ones, at the only radio format that seems to be willing to play them.

(* despite the billboard charts columnists' propensity to dispense annoyingly trivial and often context-free chart records whenever possible, including female- and age-specific records, the publication seems to generally tiptoe around the issue of race whenever possible unless they're churning out a gossip-mill story about a celebrity's race-related viral tweet or something -- this despite much of the industry's promotional machinery still being implicitly or explicitly organized by the race of its recording artists. but it wasn't always so! in 04 or 05 there was mention of the fact that the entire top 10 one week was by black artists, and even back in 1992 the latin columnist at the time pointed out when jon secada became the first black artist to go #1 on the latin tracks chart.)

dyl, Thursday, 4 January 2018 04:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

Good analysis, dyl.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 4 January 2018 06:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

i hate almost every song in the top 10 right now... havana, thunder, rockstar, bat at love are some of my least fav songs of the year period. i like gucci gang.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 January 2018 06:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

bad at love** bat at love would be more interesting

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 January 2018 06:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

one of the only interesting things to me on the chart right now is whether "end game" becomes a proper big hit once the video comes out or if every single off the taylor album is gonna be kinda floppy except for the one that's like the worst song of her career

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 January 2018 06:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

i like havana

flopson, Thursday, 4 January 2018 14:38 (nine months ago) Permalink

Ohh na na.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 4 January 2018 14:57 (nine months ago) Permalink

I like "Havana", something appealingly lazy about it

Simon H., Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:02 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol that the song beats the actual city in Google search results

President Keyes, Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

I like Havana too, but as with that Shawn Mendes song, it's with the video. We watch a lot of top 40 videos around here. That's probably why I ended up enjoying "Feels" also: the only Katy Perry moment of the year I couldn't get enough of.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 4 January 2018 16:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

i would like seeing "new rules" make the top 10 even briefly. not even a huge fan of the song but i feel like it ~deserves~ it whatever that means.

one of the only interesting things to me on the chart right now is whether "end game" becomes a proper big hit once the video comes out or if every single off the taylor album is gonna be kinda floppy except for the one that's like the worst song of her career

even that one is like one of the most frontloaded #1 hits in the history of the charts (w/ the exception of the early-mid-2000s american idol singles), almost definitely the most frontloaded since britney spears's "hold it against me".

dyl, Thursday, 4 January 2018 23:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

e almost every song in the top 10 right now... havana, thunder, rockstar, bat at love are some of my least fav songs of the year period. i like gucci gang.

― J0rdan S.

Oh come onnn these aren't that bat

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 5 January 2018 00:26 (nine months ago) Permalink

would be happy to see End Game or New Rules crack the Top Ten

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 5 January 2018 00:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

Oh come onnn these aren't that bat

― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, January 4, 2018 7:26 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark

name some worse major songs from 2017

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

shape of you

porg and bess (voodoo chili), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:04 (nine months ago) Permalink

yeah i actually like that one

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

1. Ed Sheeran "Perfect" - would be alright with this guy being put in jail for the rest of his life
2. Post Malone "Rockstar" - this is garbage
3. Camila Cabello "Havana" - this gets stuck in my head every now and again but that doesn't mean i like it in any way
4. Lil Pump "Gucci Gang" - same
5. G-Eazy "No Limit" - Cardi's verse is okay, the rest is garbage
6. Imagine Dragons "Thunder" - this is garbage
7. Migos "Motorsport" - i like this but mostly just for cardi's verse and the beat
8. Sam Smith "Too Good at Goodbyes" - this is slightly ruffly garbage
9. Mariah Carey "All I Want For Christmas" - Christmas is over
10. Halsey "Bad At Love" - had not heard this, tried it once and who knows maybe it would grow on me but my knee jerk is this is garbage

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

okay some of those songs are pretty bad

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:24 (nine months ago) Permalink

"name some worse major songs from 2017"

idk The Chainsmokers & Coldplay - "Something Just Like This", Logic "1-800-273-8255."

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:26 (nine months ago) Permalink

i like "something like this"... the logic song is terrible

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:27 (nine months ago) Permalink

we're due for the "worst song" poll.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:34 (nine months ago) Permalink

is there a thread for people who quite like rockstar

alpine static, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:54 (nine months ago) Permalink

Ed Sheeran "Perfect" might be my least favorite song this year. How pathetic is it that's No. 1.

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

every time I hear the intro to Havana I expect to hear Rob Thomas "man it's a hot one"

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:12 (nine months ago) Permalink

then they follow it up with "Wild Thoughts" and I feel time closing in on itself and struggle to remember my own name

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

i just think of "same old love" when i hear "havana" tbh. and sometimes jason derulo's "talk dirty" b/c of an approximately shared brief melodic turn it used in its verses to connote ~exoticism~, blech

dyl, Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

she's cuban-american

flopson, Saturday, 6 January 2018 02:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

'havana' is solidly 2nd tier starrah but thats still p good

flopson, Saturday, 6 January 2018 02:36 (nine months ago) Permalink

to clarify i was bleching at "talk dirty" in general and am aware that camila cabello actually has cuban heritage

dyl, Saturday, 6 January 2018 04:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

she's exotifying East Atlanta though

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Saturday, 6 January 2018 04:11 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol

dyl, Saturday, 6 January 2018 04:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

Does ANYBODY on ILM like Ed Sheeran?

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 6 January 2018 18:04 (nine months ago) Permalink

Shape of You is pretty good wannabe Bieber.

Frederik B, Saturday, 6 January 2018 18:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

i've seen some recent handwringing on twitter, including from veteran chartwatchers like chris molanphy, over the recent streaming blockbuster albums launching so many songs onto the hot 100 at once. some, apparently not remembering the days when entire taylor swift albums would show up on the hot 100 post-lp release due to itunes sales or the literally hundreds of short-lived glee cast entries, believe this is evidence that streaming has 'broken' the hot 100, and that doing what the uk's official charts company has done -- deflate streams from all but the most popular of a hit album's tracks, deflate the impact of streams from long-running hits -- would be to 'fix' it.

this is hot garbage. the uk charts -- which had already been a mess for years before streaming arrived, imo -- are now only 'fixed' in the sense that they are permanently manipulated in a manner that will make label promotions staffers happier, i.e. literally fixed. apparently we would prefer to pretend that people still consume music in the same manner that they used to -- with a succession of hits gradually coming into earshot and then just as gradually fading away, + almost nothing except by huge stars shaking up the parade -- than to recognize the way people actually listen to music now.

this has led to some, including molanphy, crossing their fingers that billboard's forthcoming tiered streaming formula will magically revert things back to something they recognize as normal (even tho again, blockbuster albums launching tons of album tracks onto the hot 100 simultaneously is a years-old holdover from the itunes era).

molanphy in particular should know better. random drake album tracks will do better under a policy favoring subscription streamers. so will those of cardi b. and j cole. and post malone.

subscription streamers are likelier to prefer rap music + likelier to listen repeatedly to the albums they enjoy through streaming than to actually purchase the album. it's astonishing that people think drake would have to work harder to succeed under such rules. (molanphy's slate columns have made it clear he's a bit mystified by drake's recent hits, "god's plan" especially, being as big as they are, but that doesn't mean that literally everything drake 'coughs up', to use his words, is destined to be a hit. sometimes artists are just very famous and happen to have their finger pretty firmly on the pulse for the moment! it happened to the black eyed peas. it happened to usher. it happened to mariah carey. again, it's nothing new or uniquely nefarious.)

this isn't to say that there aren't serious problems with how the streaming ecosystem exposes music to its users and how that can systematically shortchange certain artists, notably women and independent artists. but the idea that we ought to massage the numbers until we can make it look like things aren't any different from the supposed halcyon days -- rather than, say, pressuring streaming services and labels to change how they do business -- is preposterous.

rant over. sorry i keep dumping my thoughts on this thread.

dyl, Saturday, 12 May 2018 20:02 (five months ago) Permalink

don't be sorry, your thoughts are enlightening

niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:01 (five months ago) Permalink

otm, please keep posting dyl - and others w/ chart insight

alpine static, Monday, 14 May 2018 08:36 (five months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 17 May 2018 00:01 (five months ago) Permalink

dyl your posts are v generous and appreciated

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 17 May 2018 00:02 (five months ago) Permalink

if he keeps posting, it'll block the Zedd-Maren Morris collaboration from playing in my head for three minutes.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 00:08 (five months ago) Permalink

damn now that's in my head

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 17 May 2018 00:13 (five months ago) Permalink

tbh no one should know better

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2018 00:22 (five months ago) Permalink

i kinda like that song, at least the chorus. i don't know if i could pick the verses out of a lineup.

alpine static, Thursday, 17 May 2018 03:39 (five months ago) Permalink

Take a seat
Right over there, sat on the stair

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 24 May 2018 01:36 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

didn't see this coming: post malone's "psycho" is currently at #2 for its third nonconsecutive week. the first time around was its debut week, and the second was a temporary boost from album release-week streaming ("rockstar" jumped 32-8 the same frame). this time, with streams still strong but cooled off somewhat, the main culprit is a massive gain in airplay courtesy of pop radio, which has recently decided to embrace the song wholeheartedly. (it's gone 8-4-2 in the last few weeks on the pop songs airplay chart.) i assume he's within striking distance of the top, not only of the pop airplay chart, but also the hot 100, as his label initiated an itunes discount for the song last week...

drake's new one debuted at #19, in case you were semi-justifiably worried that he could release basically anything and automatically have it challenge for the top based on streams... the lil baby collab, in the top 10 for a second week, is holding on better than i expected it would.

cardi b's partystarter "i like it" w/ bad bunny and j balvin has not-unexpectedly exploded back into the top 10 following its video's premiere. by contrast, ella mai's "boo'd up" snuck in there pretty steadily and quietly, appropriately enough for its mood. i'd say both have a lot of room to grow. cardi's is just starting to make big gains at radio, not only at rhythmic/urban but also pop and latin radio (it would be her first hit as a non-guest at the latter two formats). ella's mostly been carried by urban radio (it's looking like it'll be #1 soon there) and strong youtube/apple music streaming. it's terrific that she didn't need pop radio to get this far, but i will be interested to see if she and/or pop radio programmers have any interest in taking the song further.

one more thing about "psycho's" recent fortune: although it doesn't *sound* particularly different from post's former hits, which were carried far more by urban radio than pop, this one got solid-but-not-great urban-side support and is now getting dropped by the format. (meanwhile, "rockstar" only crossed to pop after urban radio had been hammering it for ages.) it seems like his next single will be aimed primarily at the pop side of the dial. i can't say i'd be surprised, but it may be that he and black radio will be going their separate ways for good...

dyl, Thursday, 7 June 2018 06:00 (four months ago) Permalink

I love your posts in this thread, dyl

Frederik B, Thursday, 7 June 2018 10:28 (four months ago) Permalink

cardi b's partystarter "i like it" w/ bad bunny and j balvin has not-unexpectedly exploded back into the top 10 following its video's premiere.

Youtube is running a commercial that I have seen a few times during the NBA Basketball finals featuring Cardi B "I Like it" also

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:55 (four months ago) Permalink

appreciate it frederik!

dyl, Friday, 8 June 2018 01:33 (four months ago) Permalink

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this... is an amazing inadvertent self own

maura, Sunday, 10 June 2018 04:36 (four months ago) Permalink

"Psycho" is the only Post Malone song I've liked :/

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:15 (four months ago) Permalink

"I Like It" bumped up to number 3

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:15 (four months ago) Permalink

four weeks into its chart run "lucid dreams" by juice wrld is #9. it has virtually no radio exposure but is already well on its way to becoming a bona fide smash across all streaming platforms. he has the sort of warbly voice that is in vogue atm.

dyl, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 02:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Of the three new additions this week, Juice WRLD was the most compelling. I'd be fine with them all going away for Ariana to be back in the Top Ten

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 23:14 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Top 10 Top Ten:

All The Stars - SZA a literal queen IMO
Boo'd Up - nuff said
God's Plan - sounds OK walking around
I Like It - probably great over any Sample
Never Be The Same - hot
Nice For What - great video
Psycho - who the fuck is Post Malone
SAD! - the Cure meets *fill in the blank*
Say Something - JT is good IMO
This Is America - great song

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:53 (three months ago) Permalink

^alphabetical order

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:54 (three months ago) Permalink

wtf I forgot Ariana Grande

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 28 June 2018 23:59 (three months ago) Permalink

how dare you

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 29 June 2018 00:01 (three months ago) Permalink

Honorable mention: The Middlol

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 29 June 2018 01:04 (three months ago) Permalink

although that song would be much better if she stamped her feet, hollered and demanded more than a compromise

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 29 June 2018 01:08 (three months ago) Permalink

i don't really like the middlol. a bit confused that people seem to think of it as anything more than a rewrite of zedd's previous hit "stay", which was also merely fine. i suspect the overdrawn search for the right demo-vocal imitator, which was heavily publicized following the song's release, has lent it a little extra appeal over the prior iteration. since the nyt put out a feature about its creation, similar to the one they did on "where are ü now" a couple years back (altho i actually love that song), it has seemed nearly assured that this will be among the token 'pure pop' cuts that centrist-poptimist critics will be voting into pazz & jop (if it still exists) come year-end.

dyl, Friday, 29 June 2018 02:56 (three months ago) Permalink

its definitely “stay” with a less paper-mothy vocal

maura, Friday, 29 June 2018 04:18 (three months ago) Permalink

"the middle" is so middle of the road, i would be shocked if it did well in pazz & jop or eoy lists generally

ufo, Friday, 29 June 2018 04:44 (three months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

new to the top 10 since last update to this thread:

drake "nonstop"
drake "in my feelings"
drake "i'm upset"
drake "emotionless"
drake feat. mj "don't matter to me"
6ix9ine feat. nicki minaj & murda beatz "fefe"
tyga feat. offset "taste"
dj khaled feat. justin bieber, chance the rapper & quavo "no brainer"
travis scott "sicko mode"
travis scott "stargazing"
ariana grande "god is a woman"

almost all of them either debuted in the top 10 due to heavy streams right out of the gate (either as an album cut or, in the case of "fefe" and "no brainer", as standalone singles) or due to a massive streaming boost during the release week of a top-tier star's album ("god is a woman", "i'm upset"). the one exception is tyga's "taste" which steadily rose to the region based on strong streams and solid airplay gains courtesy of rap and crossover, but not pop radio.

many of those new top 10s would not stick around, with two of them ("emotionless" and "don't matter to me") having already fallen off the hot 100 entirely. of the ones that are likely sticking around, only "in my feelings" has been fully embraced at radio, with "fefe" and "sicko mode" still in the early-breaking stages, buoyed by their comfortable perches near the top of the streaming lists. ("no brainer" quickly became a bona fide radio hit but is not likely to stick around for long, as its sales and streaming stats are a bit tepid compared to last year's #1 hit "i'm the one", which had nearly the same artist roster.) "nonstop", which departed the top 10 immediately after its entry, is also seeing solid airplay gains and could return.

so what's actually gonna rise into, rather than debut in, the top 10? it wasn't tswift's "delicate", which stopped at #12 even tho it nearly topped the all-format airplay chart. no, nowadays you actually have to have decent streams (sales are nearly negligible).

right below the current top 10 is "love lies" by khalid and normani. it's been pulling respectable streaming numbers ever since its release back in february but was nearly ignored by radio for months and consequently spent the first 3 months of its charting career below the top 40. early in the summer crossover radio got firmly on board, with pop radio (surprise surprise!) holding out for another 2+ months after that. now that the airplay picture is finally in place and its streaming numbers remain as solid as they ever were, it may at long last get its chance to sneak into the top 10. this is its second week at #11.

other strong contenders: 5 seconds of summer's "youngblood" is #15 right now. who would have thought that they would actually get another hit, much less the biggest of their career? like "love lies", it had good streaming numbers from the get-go, but only took like 2 months to break at pop, compared to 6 months for "love lies".

"eastside" by benny blanco, khalid & halsey is #31. it too is aimed at pop radio, though still in early stages of breaking, and is already pulling strong streams. you may remember benny blanco as the dr. luke protege who co-wrote/-produced hits like "teenage dream" during the luke heyday.

yg's "big bank" reached as high as #16 so far and is currently #24. its commercial picture is similar to that of tyga's "taste" and i think it could rebound. tbh i'm rooting for it!

"breathin" by ariana debuted at #22 this week. it seems to be the public's fav from her new album based on streaming stats and is apparently being pushed to radio now even tho current single "god is a woman" is not fully established there.

i find myself wondering how far recent edm tunes to have hit the hot 100 will go. the calvin harris/sam smith collab "promises" has just debuted at #65, plus "jackie chan" (yes that one does rhyme its title with japan smfh), "solo" and "side effects" are all posting solid gains. particularly interested in the latter (which i actually kinda like!) because basically all of the chainsmokers' many singles have bombed since last year's coldplay collab. but honestly if "one kiss" could only reach #26, the ceiling for these might not be that much higher. who knows!

dyl, Saturday, 1 September 2018 18:14 (one month ago) Permalink

love these posts

niels, Saturday, 1 September 2018 18:47 (one month ago) Permalink

jackie chan is very bad lyrically and someone should write skylar spence a check for its beat

maura, Sunday, 2 September 2018 01:48 (one month ago) Permalink

oh great eminem as a new song in the top ten

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 15 September 2018 01:42 (one month ago) Permalink

two of them!

dyl, Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:44 (one month ago) Permalink

i think this album is more likely to spawn hits with actual longevity than his last few that failed to do so. his team must have finally gotten the memo that even eminem's white-rapper fanbase would prefer to hear him do a contemporary-sounding rap album rather than reiterate the skylar grey/alex da kid formula from like 10 years ago

dyl, Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:46 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Listened to the new Eminem song. Realized that every time I hear about the latest dumb-Alt-Right thing, Eminem is rapping somewhere in my subconscious.

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 4 October 2018 01:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I guess 8 out the top 10 songs are rap songs and that's completely normal now? wow!

niels, Saturday, 6 October 2018 10:31 (one week ago) Permalink

i thought “lucid dreams” was the new twenty one pilots song when i first heard it

maura, Saturday, 6 October 2018 13:38 (one week ago) Permalink

what an incredibly mean thing to say about JUICE WRLD

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 6 October 2018 13:58 (one week ago) Permalink

i gotta be me

maura, Saturday, 6 October 2018 14:00 (one week ago) Permalink

conversely the new 21 pilots album is good and i can't see anything from it really ascending the charts

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 October 2018 14:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Juice WRLD is only a little bit better than 21 Pilots

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nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Saturday, 6 October 2018 16:05 (one week ago) Permalink

its success is unsurprising but i don't like "lucid dreams", it's meandering and adolescent and not even in a ~compelling way

now that radio has gotten on board it has finally reached a new (#2) peak. given that it still has a lot of room to grow in airplay it could rise all the way to the top. its early streaming momentum hasn't let up either, as it has returned to #1 on the streaming songs list.

post malone has just released a video for "better now" so its significant airplay advantage + the inevitable streaming spike could also catapult it to the top -- it's #3 now.

so basically, two songs that have basically the exact same aesthetic are next in line.

or "mona lisa" from lil wayne's album could crash in at the top, depending on just how huge its first-week streams ended up being.

dyl, Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:30 (one week ago) Permalink

i am kinda surprised that 21 pilots had no big hits before releasing their album! like i am not surprised "jumps00t" et al didn't connect in the long run but i figured they would have at least one surefire hit up their sleeve given how much they blew up with their last album.

dyl, Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:32 (one week ago) Permalink

of all the potential edm crossovers to go pop that i mentioned in an earlier post, it looks like none of them is going to really take off. it turns out the winner is marshmello's "happier" w/ bastille. it's getting, only semi-surprisingly for 2018, a lot of alternative play in addition to top 40 play. its sentimental dying-dog video has given it a big boost too.

dyl, Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:36 (one week ago) Permalink

i guess that song and imagine dragons new screamer ("natural") will be the representatives for 'rock' in the upper echelons of pop culture this fall. sorry 21 pilots :(

dyl, Saturday, 6 October 2018 18:37 (one week ago) Permalink

trying to catch up on this. i think i've fallen out of step with pop - nothing in the top ten is really grabbing me. but i was one of those who similarly tried and failed to hear the chart-topping qualities of "bodak yellow." "uproar" at least has some energy but it's all borrowed from "special delivery."

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 15:37 (one week ago) Permalink

Weird how TAKI TAKI is the top 50 global song on spotify but in the hot 100 it’s all the way down in 27.

I predict one or two songs from the “a star is born” soundtrack will break into the top 10 in the following weeks. Probably “shallow”. They’re very different to current top radio but the movie has been getting oscar buzz and it has been doing quite alright in the box office.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 16:18 (one week ago) Permalink

“Taki Taki” is great! I think we should decide on which thread it belongs in.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 16:57 (one week ago) Permalink

Latin / reggaeton?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 17:06 (one week ago) Permalink

Sure, you’d think that would be the most logical place for it, but that thread has never been very pop/reggaeton-oriented (and has barely seen 10 posts this year). Maybe that should change.

I was also thinking of Rolling Pop. Posting it in both then.

(The song’s video actually dropped today - it might hit the US top 10 yet)

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 19:26 (one week ago) Permalink


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