Rolling R&B Thread 2018

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Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 10:48 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Jorja Smith crushes this ballad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWXHkYMZ4LQ

Evan R, Friday, 12 January 2018 15:20 (ten months ago) Permalink

I like the Justine Skye album. Nice vibe.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 21 January 2018 21:16 (ten months ago) Permalink

The Chris Dave and the Drumhedz record has a lot of sweet tracks on it. The Bilal/Tweet duet! The Stokley track!

maura, Friday, 26 January 2018 14:52 (ten months ago) Permalink

^^^ this record is very enjoyable

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:30 (ten months ago) Permalink

just in case anyone is unfamiliar chris dave is responsible for the drumming on meshell ndegeocello's comfort woman and maxwell's BLACKsummers'night so i basically think he's the best drummer in the world

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:33 (ten months ago) Permalink

Did anyone try the young millennial SoundCloud Kylie dean I posted upthread

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:34 (ten months ago) Permalink

i'm checking it out now. "young millennial soundcloud kiley dean" is... exactly right? i like it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:37 (ten months ago) Permalink

"house in the hills" bangs a lot

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:47 (ten months ago) Permalink

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUxTU7HVoAAWXqC?format=jpg

essence fest lineup

maura, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:52 (ten months ago) Permalink

(it’s good)

maura, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:54 (ten months ago) Permalink

every time i look at that lineup i immediately black out

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:59 (ten months ago) Permalink

dang

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:05 (ten months ago) Permalink

wow

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:06 (ten months ago) Permalink

it doesn't seem real

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:22 (ten months ago) Permalink

is this where we discuss the SiR album? cause it's nice

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:37 (ten months ago) Permalink

Essence Fest lineups have always been great.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:39 (ten months ago) Permalink

i like the SiR album

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:00 (ten months ago) Permalink

The sample's gonna put a lot of people off, but the new Ne-Yo song is so wonderful and light on its toes. I really wanna believe he has another great album in him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6cTkE_dchY

Evan R, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:33 (ten months ago) Permalink

rayvn lenae (featured on noname's telefone tape) has a new EP with production assistance from steve lacy and it's v nice https://open.spotify.com/album/7jxrYnrAa06rekcs1cxp7i

monotony, Friday, 9 February 2018 05:53 (ten months ago) Permalink

that's ravyn*, rather than rayvn, my apologies

monotony, Friday, 9 February 2018 06:01 (ten months ago) Permalink

I nominated "Sticky" for the 2017 poll, and I'll probably nominate it again in 2018 since it will be re-eligible. :)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 February 2018 13:09 (ten months ago) Permalink

Also, it's got a video now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keYOX0Fp_BQ

Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 February 2018 13:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

Lost a lot of time thinking about this lately, but what was the last significant hit slow jam? I'm trying to think of the last one that got regular airplay on rap/R&B stations, not just adult R&B stations. ("Redbone" doesn't count.)

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:34 (nine months ago) Permalink

Does "Permission" count?

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

I dunno tbh; I totally forgot about it. I guess there were those Bryson Tiller songs, too, if those count, and "Slow Motion" was around for a while. But all that just seems like background noise compared to, like, when "Miss Independent" was everywhere

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

heard b.e.d. remix a lot later last yr idk if that counts

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

"Miss Independent" was on pop radio here last night. Made everything around it sound even more lifeless.

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:49 (nine months ago) Permalink

But I think "Get You" counts? The kids love Daniel Caesar.

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

oh man "Get You" is so great. Not sure how much airplay it gets though. Wikipedia says it only peaked at 43 on the hip-hop/R&B chart, but that could be wrong

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:54 (nine months ago) Permalink

I guess I'm trying to figure out if there's been a format shift that's restricting airplay for this kind of R&B, of if the public just sort of gradually lost interest in it.

It's funny, the '90s R&B is so lionized right now, but looking back the Ne-Yo/Mario/Lloyd/Omarion/etc. boom of the '00s that lots of people took for granted at the time really feels special

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

crew?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

i guess that's not slow jam in the way you mean it... party next door "come & see me" got a lot of radio play

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:17 (nine months ago) Permalink

oh yeah "come & see me" was everywhere. His performance on that is so noncommital it sometimes barely scans as an R&B song to me, but I guess it's pretty representative of where the genre's commercial energy is right now. It'll probably be remembered as an era-defining song, as weird as that is to think about

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:26 (nine months ago) Permalink

curious to see what Daniel Caesar does this year. He's consciously not signed with a label. His last album was a quantum leap ahead from his prior one. I got high hopes.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

that Vulture article is bittersweet. Glad this music is still finding an audience through streaming but that arrangement takes away the shared experience of hearing it on the radio. Would be great if you didn't have to be Donald Glover to get airplay

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

i wish this station would sprinkle in some more new stuff

https://977rnb.iheart.com/music/recently-played/

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:01 (nine months ago) Permalink

one of the things I love about adult R&B stations is how expansive their playlists are. They seem to draw from a deeper, more diverse pool than like classic rock stations do. But it would be nice if they threw in more contemporary stuff. They seem to limit their rotation to just a few modern songs are any given time (and lately one of them is always Bruno Mars)

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:19 (nine months ago) Permalink

(another is usually Charlie Wilson... man that guys does numbers)

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:22 (nine months ago) Permalink

part of it's in how one defines slow jam, no? like, there's no shortage of subdued, sung, downtempo tracks on urban radio, both mainstream and adult. but no one's gonna call, say, "white iverson" a slow jam b/c i guess its sound is meant to be read as more vibey, not so much sensual or heartfelt. at the same time, though, i would never have described "miss independent" as a slow jam, especially back then when actual slow jams could still be hits with decent regularity (i.e. "like you'll never see me again", "lost without u" or "suffocate").

a couple recent-ish rap hits with a sentiment that i'd call almost-right for slow jam territory are k camp's "comfortable" and kendrick lamar's "love." (the former perhaps if slowed down slightly + given a more relaxed delivery on the verses). but there's something about the image element of rap that leads people to avoid categorizing any rappers' songs as 'slow jam'-like, or even as r&b, even if some individual cuts do fit basically all of the sonic and thematic benchmarks (i.e. singing, romantic sentiment, relaxed arrangement).

i guess what i'm trying to say is that the aesthetic hasn't been entirely scrubbed away, but when it does appear it's less often used by artists that can be comfortably slotted into the r&b, rap being as dominant as it is now.

dyl, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

as far as recent hits that do fit the traditional molds, i'd also offer, yes, "permission" and "slow motion", but also tory lanez's "say it" and khalid's "location".

"location" in particular is a bit odd in that it broke at mainstream urban radio and eventually crossed to the adult stations -- i've heard it a downright shocking number of times on my local station's quiet storm segment, and no, it doesn't sound out of place. even more surprising to see cross in that direction was sza's "love galore". (i imagine "the weekend" could make the same moves too, but adult r&b radio, like most adult-targetted formats, is slow to pick up on new material.) just those two, which are both very contemporary-sounding, happening in such quick succession, along with "get you" and now "finesse", leads me to think that there will be more overlap between the adult and mainstream contingents in the near future (whereas for the previous 2-3 years, overlap was quite meager). so who knows, maybe that might provide more room for the sound to thrive? it's hard to say really what the effect would be.

if the format landscape of the 90s were still in place today, i imagine a track like "before i do" would have been such an easy sell at mainstream (white) adult contemporary stations. (reminder: toni braxton was once one of the top artists at mainstream ac!) but alas the gulf between white and black adult stations is now basically historically wide. (it doesn't help that white ac stations now rarely break new material -- most of the format's currents are proven pop hits that broke ages ago (like, "slow hands" is *just now* starting to get heavy play there). so if your song has no shot at crossing to pop, tough, mainstream adult radio has no use for you either.)

dyl, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

"get you", by the way, is climbing the mainstream airplay chart pretty impressively for a song with its sound. i hear it on my local mainstream urban station and apparently it's top 30 on mediabase's chart for that format (i don't know where it is on billboard's because that's a subscriber-only chart). tank's "when we", like "get you", is a former adult r&b #1 hit that is also trying to make its way up the mainstream airplay chart now, but is lagging a bit currently (maybe tank isn't cool enough, even if he looks great without a shirt on -- altho a remix that i think is forthcoming might help). i'd also keep an ear out for h.e.r.'s "focus" (originally released in 2016), which is even higher on the mainstream chart than "get you" and has had no adult-side support yet to my knowledge.

dyl, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:36 (nine months ago) Permalink

completely blown away by this Jean Deaux track

https://soundcloud.com/thatsjeandeaux/due-to-me-produced-by-lanre

Evan R, Thursday, 15 February 2018 19:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

toni's album will be coming march 23rd apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccQJq3gGt4o

dyl, Thursday, 15 February 2018 23:45 (nine months ago) Permalink

Lanre is a super dope producer! xp

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 15 February 2018 23:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

Only heard one other Jean Deaux track ("Wikipedia") but it blew me away, too. Chicago has something real special going on right now

Evan R, Thursday, 15 February 2018 23:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

That new Toni song is really nice. Looking forward to her new record.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://soundcloud.com/ghostly/starchild-the-new-romantic-language

title track from the smokin debut album by starchild & the new romantic (aka solange collaborator bryndon cook). out friday. from the press release:
"Sonically and spiritually, Cook finds guidance in grand standards: looking up to producers Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, studying their contributions to the New Jack Swing era and pop music at large. Touchstone statements like Janet Jackson's Control, Michael Jackson's Bad, and Prince's 1999. Singular breakout LPs from Terence Trent D'Arby and Bobby Brown. The honesty of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska and Carole King's Tapestry; the ingenuity of Laurie Anderson. Cook also reflects on recent years with Solange, as part of her touring band, and collaborations with Dev Hynes aka Blood Orange, as reminders of artistic individuality. 'Being around them now urges me to find my own way of delivering my own messages.'"

maura, Monday, 19 February 2018 14:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Nothing new, but I enjoyed Jose James doing a Bill Withers tribute at the Kennedy Center recently

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:34 (nine months ago) Permalink

new lloyd album! i really like the duet with sevyn streeter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l2WFbLvJGc

maura, Friday, 31 August 2018 14:20 (three months ago) Permalink

wow this is his first album in seven years!

maura, Friday, 31 August 2018 14:21 (three months ago) Permalink

i mean, i knew that it had been a while. 'seven years' just sounds like a lot of time

maura, Friday, 31 August 2018 14:25 (three months ago) Permalink

Caramel is good too.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 31 August 2018 23:29 (three months ago) Permalink

i like a lot of the album's tracks better than "caramel"! his voice works well over some contemporary-sounding trap percussion for sure, but i'm glad he gets to showcase it over something more classic-sounding like "excited", too, guitar solos + 808 cowbells and all. he splits the difference well on songs like "porcelain" too. the run from that track to the end ("tru", still one of my fav singles from 2016) is great, gets so personal and affecting.

voices with a similar timbre to his have been all over radio for idk the past decade? and yet at his best there is a warmth to his voice that is not often touched by those of e.g. chris brown, august alsina and jeremih

unfortunately the lil wayne collab is one of the weaker points!

dyl, Saturday, 1 September 2018 23:33 (three months ago) Permalink

finally got around to the Starchild & the New Romantic album and uh wow this rules so much, one of the best things I've heard this year. drawing from everything great about 80's R&B and so effervescent. highlight at the moment for me is Only If U Knew which just builds and builds fantastically

ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 11:49 (two months ago) Permalink

The 6lack album is much better than I thought it would be. Songwriting, vocal production, the guests... everything works.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 14 September 2018 18:24 (two months ago) Permalink

had totally forgotten about Lloyd

flopson, Friday, 14 September 2018 21:17 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_hIJ1bBtfc

dyl, Saturday, 22 September 2018 15:45 (two months ago) Permalink

oh apparently lloyd's "excited" has a video now! still one of my faves from that album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6lXTp5n33s

dyl, Saturday, 22 September 2018 22:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Fun vid, nice to see jeeps in music videos in 2018. Spice 1 did that sos band sample better tho.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Sunday, 23 September 2018 06:31 (two months ago) Permalink

the marsha ambrosius album slaps

https://open.spotify.com/album/0rzQED8fD3FNbWOCO1m8ap

monotony, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 06:13 (two months ago) Permalink

"old times" is easily one of my fav songs in recent months so i def need to give that a listen

dyl, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 02:09 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

brent faiyaz has put out another solid ep. so far this is my favorite from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb5_-uHEa7E

dyl, Saturday, 20 October 2018 17:04 (one month ago) Permalink

marsha ambrosius album is a little too long for me but the back half is really good

dyl, Saturday, 20 October 2018 17:48 (one month ago) Permalink

maura put me onto this year's raheem devaughn record which is really excellent so far, this song in particular is so plush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_i6JRZuDY0

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 October 2018 16:06 (one month ago) Permalink

that's gorgeous

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:53 (one month ago) Permalink

whole album kicks ass imo!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:59 (one month ago) Permalink

gonna check it. he's put out some stuff i like but never been able to get on board with a full full length.

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Friday, 26 October 2018 00:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Anyone else listening to these two new Amerie EPs? Sounding pretty good to me...

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 22:12 (one month ago) Permalink

I particularly like the 2nd one ("After 4AM"); maybe b/c it's somewhat poppier...

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 22:35 (one month ago) Permalink

marsha ambrosius record completely blowing my mind

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 October 2018 16:32 (one month ago) Permalink

loving the raheem devaugh and marsha ambrosius albums. still regularly playing the starchild album too

ufo, Sunday, 28 October 2018 05:16 (one month ago) Permalink

I loved "Old Times" but I really struggled with the full Ambrosius album when I gave it a go, its quite overbearing so maybe I just needed to be in a different mood

boxedjoy, Sunday, 28 October 2018 09:13 (one month ago) Permalink

there's a ballad fugue in the second half but i think the songwriting is strong enough that she makes it work

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 October 2018 14:24 (one month ago) Permalink

the first half is so light and funky and then it gets kinda retro stax-y and then "old times" hits, that's my kind of sequencing

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 October 2018 14:24 (one month ago) Permalink

the first half didn't really connect w/ me -- it's "old times" onward that grabbed me

dyl, Sunday, 28 October 2018 15:27 (one month ago) Permalink

That was the same for me dyl

boxedjoy, Sunday, 28 October 2018 19:26 (one month ago) Permalink

Her voice was overbearing but the lightness of the material just didnt stick for me

boxedjoy, Sunday, 28 October 2018 19:27 (one month ago) Permalink

i think i'm right and the first half kicks ass

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 29 October 2018 23:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Sorry to bump this topic if no interest, but I really, really dig these Amerie EPs.

What is some other recommended stuff in this vein (vibe, production style, etc.)? I’m pretty out of it when it comes to current R&B...

greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:32 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

lovely new brandy song on this week’s STAR

https://youtu.be/kGqKh6tcU3E

maura, Friday, 16 November 2018 01:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i really like Ryan Beatty's debut Boy In Jeans

very much in the vein of albums like Blonde and CTRL with its often guitar-oriented sound, but fuller in sound and less fragmented than Blonde. it's also very gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5LaDjqTujY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg2AGzD5d4M

ufo, Friday, 16 November 2018 06:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

seconding morrisp on those terrific Amerie EPs, and a h/t to Maura for hipping me to them with her Pfork review.

evol j, Friday, 16 November 2018 13:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Oh, that was maura? cool!

verlaine & rambo (morrisp), Friday, 16 November 2018 14:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it was :) thanks!

maura, Friday, 16 November 2018 20:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Has anyone noticed King Princess ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGIkGbs1VEc

Nabozo, Monday, 26 November 2018 17:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah but I wouldn't call her R&B

monotony, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 00:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Anyone enjoying mih ty? Slight but I like some tracks a lot, particularly the light and fyt

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 00:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah but I wouldn't call her R&B
― monotony, Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:11 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're right, but I find it has become a very thin line, thinking of Kali Uchis in comparison or, say, Lemonade. It's also a style I find very attractive.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 13:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

anybody have any opinions on Ian Isiah? was mostly non-plussed by his EP until I heard this, which floored me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovmTOohD46E

galaxy brian (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 23:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Anyone enjoying mih ty? Slight but I like some tracks a lot, particularly the light and fyt

― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, November 26, 2018 7:24 PM (yesterday) Bookmark

perfect timing, new level, take your time, these days is a rly great stretch imo, and some of the stuff at the beginning (going thru some thangs) and end (lie 2 me) is dope too

top 10 album of the year to me

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 November 2018 23:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPQ5EIKtmrY

maura, Friday, 30 November 2018 01:05 (one week ago) Permalink

^ Erykah Badu, Kelly Price, BJ The Chicago Kid, Luke James, Queen Naija, Robert Glasper And Thundercat show out in the soul cypher!

maura, Friday, 30 November 2018 01:06 (one week ago) Permalink

also luke’s song on this week’s STAR is super dramatic and great

https://m.soundcloud.com/starcastofficial/ready-for-war-from-star-season

maura, Friday, 30 November 2018 01:14 (one week ago) Permalink

nice smooth collaboration between raheem devaughn and sax player vandell andrew:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAqR3s3uD1g

maura, Friday, 30 November 2018 14:02 (one week ago) Permalink

i really like Ryan Beatty's debut Boy In Jeans

very much in the vein of albums like Blonde and CTRL with its often guitar-oriented sound, but fuller in sound and less fragmented than Blonde. it's also very gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5LaDjqTujY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg2AGzD5d4M

― ufo, Friday, 16 November 2018 06:12 (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is fantastic, thankin u. Was not expecting the Green Gartside meets Om’mas Keith vibes.

Tim F, Saturday, 1 December 2018 01:47 (one week ago) Permalink

i'm glad someone else likes the Ryan Beatty album! that sort of summery guitar-oriented alt r&b is such a comforting sound to me. i don't really hear Green Gartside though other than the blue-eyed soul thing? Gartside has such a distinctive voice that it's hard to compare anyone to him imo

ufo, Sunday, 2 December 2018 03:56 (one week ago) Permalink

anybody have any opinions on Ian Isiah?

I missed that he's been working with Sinjin Hawke for awhile, cool

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 2 December 2018 20:40 (one week ago) Permalink


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