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So let's start this year off with two of the Wizkid bangers that I believe we forgot to post in the old thread:

Manya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBHH0_JtaCQ

And Tiwa Savage's Ma Lo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4fqMMKo9ns

Also, the latest Davidos:

FIA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ORvJcpe2Oc

Like Dat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJPt8ruo2BQ

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 12:52 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Hell yeah, let’s make this year’s thread a fat and juicy one!
Last year’s thread became so desolate at times I gave up on posting new stuff, but the recent upswing in activity gives me fresh hope for 2018.

Some fresh goodies (picking them basically at random, so much good stuff coming out continuously):

NAIJA:

Teni, “Pareke”:

https://soundcloud.com/teniofficial/pareke

You might know her from last year’s “Amen” (posted here) and “Fargin”. She also wrote the Davido track “Like Dis” longneck posted above.

Tinny Mafia ft. Ycee, Bella, Dapo Tuburna & Damilare, “Kokoka”:

https://soundcloud.com/musicplugafrica/tinny-mafia-ft-ycee-bella-dapo-tuburna-damilare-kokoka

Ycee plus labelmates. Their “Komije” was good too.

TeeQ Bello, “Shaku Shaku”:

https://soundcloud.com/freemedigital/tee-q-bello-shaku-shaku

Killer track. Loved his recent “Naturally (Freestyle)” too.

DJ Consequence ft. Lil Kesh, “Water Bottle”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMi2he8PemQ

Produced by Young John, obviously. Fun track. What’s that though, “hey lads (?), shove it up your ass”? That water bottle?

But by far the funnest track to come out of Nigeria in the past two months or so is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea4bHtJrbUI

Mayorkun, “Che Che”

breastcrawl, Friday, 5 January 2018 19:20 (eleven months ago) Permalink

GHANA:

Vision DJ ft. Miyaki & VVIP, “Chuku”:

https://soundcloud.com/purple_tunes1/vision-dj-chuku

Produced by the wonderful GuiltyBeatz.

Joey B ft. King Promise, “Sweetie Pie”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY-NLE0SwLI

King Promise is one of the new wave of Ghanaian pop kids that came up last year, along with Kidi and Kuame Eugene.

Speaking of Kidi, this is his follow-up to “Odo”, which features Kuame as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSlvXjMVFh0

Kidi ft. TNeeya & Kuame Eugene

breastcrawl, Friday, 5 January 2018 19:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

SOUTH AFRICA:

DJ Sumbody ft. Tira, Thebe & Enza, “Ayepyep”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1qDvmteVlw

Prime Gqom.

Heavy-K ft. Mondii Ngcobo, “Siphum’ eLokshin”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cib5TQJIAa8

Follow-up to his South African smash “Inde”, that was mentioned (but not posted?) on the 2017 thread.

Sun-El Musician feat. Samthing Soweto, “Akanamali”, for those who haven’t heard it yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ApmPc4g48

NB: forks/ulysses wants everyone to vote for this in the EOY. He’s not wrong.

breastcrawl, Friday, 5 January 2018 19:22 (eleven months ago) Permalink

ZIMBABWE BONUS BEATS:

ExQ feat. Killer T, “Nhema”:

https://soundcloud.com/exqofficial/nhema

Very much 2017, but such a banger.

breastcrawl, Friday, 5 January 2018 19:24 (eleven months ago) Permalink

And hey, there’s a new Tekno!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tznar4pVS1U

Tekno, “Only One”. Produced by Legendury Beatz.

…which came hot on the heels of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cs-OOxzLwI

Tekno feat. Wizkid, “Mama”.

breastcrawl, Friday, 5 January 2018 19:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Aknamali has been my jam for a while. I'm pretty sure I have a spare vote for it someplace.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 5 January 2018 20:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I also love Che Che, btw!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 5 January 2018 20:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

To me one of the most interesting things from Nigeria right now is the 'Shaku Shaku' dance and the music associated with it.

http://www.pulse.ng/gist/pop-culture/shaku-shaku-the-new-street-dance-style-we-should-all-learn-in-2018-id7799976.html

This seems to be one of the dance anthems in the street. Interestingly, sounds a lot like South African house. Who knows, maybe they stole the beat from some South African tune :)

Mr Real - Legbegbe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XKu2O4HnQM

ahomka ginger, Saturday, 13 January 2018 00:25 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Finally something new. Thanks.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 13 January 2018 09:43 (eleven months ago) Permalink

those kids are dope

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:26 (eleven months ago) Permalink

hello music friends -- if you have a little extra time/goodwill, please bookmark my thread:

help me with my class?

you wouldn't have to do anything more than contribute your existing knowledge :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:37 (ten months ago) Permalink

I need to slowly get back into the afrobeats of this year, so it'd be great to have some help from ILM if you guys care to post even things that are not totally groundbreaking :) (or do you all experience fatigue)

Sauti Sol have a nice follow-up with Tiwa Savage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1zvVUqWccE

Niniola's Saro is alright, and so is Burna Boy's Deja Vu.

Nabozo, Saturday, 20 January 2018 17:25 (ten months ago) Permalink

Since it's a new thread, might be ok if I post my favorite Sauti Sol from a few years back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYFQRuqQ7EM

Frederik B, Saturday, 20 January 2018 17:41 (ten months ago) Permalink

https://youtu.be/Tf_0Cc2PiTg

Prince Kaybee & LaSoulMates ft. TNS & Zanda Zakuza “Club Controller”

This track goes hard!

breastcrawl, Sunday, 21 January 2018 22:04 (ten months ago) Permalink

indeed!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 21 January 2018 22:25 (ten months ago) Permalink

I'm gonna need ilx to weigh in on burna boy feat. lily allen. I feel like I'm probably not being fair to it because of the featuring lily allen, lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKa6jTfZB5w

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 22 January 2018 13:27 (ten months ago) Permalink

Reekado Banks, Tiwa Savage & Fiokee - Like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaKfUTWU0dw

light and breezy

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:06 (ten months ago) Permalink

sub in, idk, an Asha Bhosle sample or something for Lily Allen and that Burna Boy song would be unstoppable (not that she's objectively ruinous or anything, tbh I don't remember much about her beyond reports of her being 'problematic' a while back)

rob, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:16 (ten months ago) Permalink

I feel like all I’ve got left in this world is loving problematic artists but idk, i just never cared for lily allen...

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:34 (ten months ago) Permalink

putting lily aside, Burna's new mixtape Outside is superb. It might appeal more to UK afro(tbd) and dancehall partisans but I think it's the most satisfying afrobeats full-length I've heard so far

rob, Saturday, 27 January 2018 15:06 (ten months ago) Permalink

Enjoying this:

Flavour - Baby Na Yoka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsR0yCvG3Oc

Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:15 (ten months ago) Permalink

If I heard that Burna Boy song with no context, I wouldn't know it was Lily Allen. Good song.

Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:17 (ten months ago) Permalink

Was listening to Tzy Panchak (Cameroon afropop) who's gonna be doing a late night gig in a Washington DC suburb tonight. Eh, he's ok. Kinda formulaic though

curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 February 2018 22:58 (ten months ago) Permalink

Also still catching up on 2017 releases. Interesting that on Congolese singer Fally Ipupa's Tokoos album, that one of his tracks that utilized more traditional Congolese influences "Eloko Oyo" got the most Youtube attention. Ipupa used to be in Congolese rumba/soukus bands but tried to crossover with this album with more autotuned vocals, afrop beats and guests like Wizkid.

http://afropop.org/articles/tokooos

The flip side of international success? Fally has taken a direct hit from the Congolese community for his new album. Many are saying he is selling out, that he has compromised his originality in order to follow everyone else. However Fally is fully convinced that he always has a unique touch. And given the success of his single “Eloko Oyo,” with its 21 million views on YouTube in five months, he is right. This is a record for an artist coming from a Congolese rumba background. But this is nothing compared to the goals he has in mind.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 February 2018 23:14 (ten months ago) Permalink

that song is really nice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4KNVT2w0mU

rob, Sunday, 4 February 2018 22:14 (ten months ago) Permalink

Someone listed Ipupa's Eloko Oyo on their end of year faves on the 2017 Rolling Afropop thread. Sorry I forgot who.

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 February 2018 15:29 (ten months ago) Permalink

I'm not sure whether this ought to go on Outernational, Global dance or this thread, but the Nyege Nyege Tapes label has music on it that sounds unlike anything I've ever heard:

https://nyegenyegetapes.bandcamp.com/

Fantastic cover design too. Nihiloxica appears to be a group of drummers and a synth player making this dark Ugandan techno racket which in my own limited knowledge could only be compared to things like the GQom Oh! stuff from SA, but not really like that. The Sounds of Sisso comp is crazy, and again provides a nice Ugandan analogue to the frenetic, helium-paced Shangaan electro style.

Badgers (dog latin), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 10:14 (ten months ago) Permalink

Don’t think anyone has mentioned Nyege Nyege on the global dance thread, although that seems the best place for it

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:44 (ten months ago) Permalink

I'm really interested by these Ugandan artists on Nyege Nyege, sounds like a cool mix of trad drums and electronic sounds. I guess the Otim Alpha thing would be Shangaan.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:52 (ten months ago) Permalink

And let's post a single from Makaveli, that is like sped-up shangaan with spoken-word rap and other cool sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tonm1HYRxHk
Great no?

Nabozo, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:02 (ten months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/bsFp78u.jpg

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 22:15 (ten months ago) Permalink

that is going in my EOY I can already tell

Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:28 (ten months ago) Permalink

Funny you should say EOY:

https://m.soundcloud.com/dj_michy/craze-sololo-ft-orezi-x-mystro

CaZe ft. Orezi & Mystro “Sololo”.

Total knock-out.

breastcrawl, Friday, 9 February 2018 16:06 (ten months ago) Permalink

Mystro also produced Orezi’s own new single “Whine For Daddy”, which features Tekno. Should do well in the Caribbean too.

https://youtu.be/XT2oBKtABms

breastcrawl, Friday, 9 February 2018 16:15 (ten months ago) Permalink

woah at whatever the hell happens 90 seconds into "Nammiliki"!

Sololo is also very nice

rob, Friday, 9 February 2018 16:26 (ten months ago) Permalink

This one is classic Davido sweet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-ngDUlekTE

Another sweet one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIYipEOsGTM

And here's Wizkid, I love this song but I don't understand from when it was (late 2017 I guess, they just made a remix).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx9k2k6Ag5c

And since ILM likes him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcUdwBK5Ma0

Go Down (Alade) is good. Your Body (Wizkid) is good.

Nabozo, Sunday, 11 February 2018 15:14 (ten months ago) Permalink

Nabozo, “Without You” is a 2015 song by LK Kuddy ft. Yung6ix. The remix with Wizkid dropped early 2016. Is “Your Body” the one with Akon? ‘Cause that would be “For You” from Wizzy’s 2014 Ayo album. Lots of mislabelling going on out there!

This one is very recent though, the latest installment in Wizzy’s Killertunes trilogy, after “Opoju” with DJ Spinall and “Manya” with Mut4y:

https://youtu.be/VYawNmc3m0s

DJ Jimmy Jatt ft. Wizkid, “Oshe” (produced by Killertunes)

breastcrawl, Monday, 12 February 2018 09:55 (ten months ago) Permalink

Another thing: that Sounds of Sisso compilation is all Tanzanian stuff, not Ugandan (that includes the Makaveli track posted above).
https://nyegenyegetapes.bandcamp.com/album/sounds-of-sisso
Nyege Nyege Tapes, the label, is based in Kampala, but they aim to release “outsider music from around the region and beyond”.

Anyway, a lot of good stuff on there. In their relentlessness and piling on of chipmunk and other sound effects some tracks remind me of those crazy Ball J productions from the azonto era at times.

breastcrawl, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:11 (ten months ago) Permalink

Very sad news from Ghana: rising star Ebony (or Ebony Reigns as she was also known) died in a road accident last Thursday. She had just released her debut album a month ago.

Her big hit last year, “Sponsor”:
https://youtu.be/4DBPLxbjads

And her current one, “Maame Hw3”:
https://youtu.be/d8cJoGtU660

breastcrawl, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:28 (ten months ago) Permalink

thanks for clearing that up breastcrawl didn't realise it was Tanzanian

Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 12 February 2018 12:17 (ten months ago) Permalink

Shaku Shaku time!

Twin record with “Legbegbe” >>>
Idowest ft. Dammy Krane & Slimcase, “Omo Shepeteri”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrdlrp4yKAw

Slightly older, but essential >>>
Zlatan ft. Olamide, “My Body”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4mSuYyCDy0

Even older, was this the first one? >>>
Kyla Cole, “Shaku Shaku”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1JwIm79BXo

Brand new, super lit >>>
Super Wavey Records, “Kpano”:
https://soundcloud.com/freemedigital/super-wavey-records-kpano-prod-jaga-bantu-moor

Jumping the bandwagon >>>
D’Banj ft. Slimcase & Mr Real, “Issa Banger”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M_nGSyg1pM

Biggest record in Nigeria right now >>>
Olamide, “Science Student”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WimJP1SDa4I

breastcrawl, Monday, 12 February 2018 22:54 (ten months ago) Permalink

This is from last year but I did not see any mention of HE3B on the 2017 thread. I think these two tracks are pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alPUrD2w-jw&list=PL6zyXmG5g9xEeh0mQJVlo1Iovr0ITin6S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O31DaWeRyyY

daavid, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:34 (ten months ago) Permalink

First embed doesn't seem to be working. Let's try again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alPUrD2w-jw&list=PL6zyXmG5g9xEeh0mQJVlo1Iovr0ITin6S

daavid, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:35 (ten months ago) Permalink

Anyway, it's called "Be Mine"

daavid, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:36 (ten months ago) Permalink

this is probably the best song I listened this year

https://youtu.be/m99Wmv7gU2A

Nourry, Friday, 16 February 2018 20:59 (nine months ago) Permalink

Wow, that is fantastic! I want to sample that breakdown and make a house banger out of it!

(This is about “Mariana” by Nelson Freitas, by the way. Including track info when posting is much appreciated. Makes it easier to search, and YouTube links often disappear over time as well. )

breastcrawl, Saturday, 17 February 2018 01:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

YT is terribly impractical for exploring new stuff, especially since they personalized suggestions by filling them with your latest listens. There's a few mass playlists that are regularly updated, but not enough great songs to sit through them.

Nabozo, Saturday, 17 February 2018 10:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

I apologize for the lack of information. i thought that the caption would appear, but it didn't, i don't know why.
i'm kinda addicted to "Mariana". Nelson Freitas is really big in Portugal, although I never payed much attention to his music until this one came up.

Nourry, Saturday, 17 February 2018 16:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

tbc: these aren't exactly well considered opinions, so it's quite possible I'm giving good stuff short shrift

rob, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 23:28 (one week ago) Permalink

I didn’t realize there were blurbs to go with the listings, making my observations on ClassiQ kind of redundant.

“Case” is a bit of a bizarre pick when “Askamaya” is also available.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 23:46 (one week ago) Permalink

Rob otm, and also, yes, Askamaya >>>> Case.

Idk, I understand that they've tried to keep it at one song per artist (excepting Odunsi, of course) but a list that does not have songs like Fake Love or Kana (or Commando) just feels... off, imo.
The Davido I enjoyed the most in 2018 was the FIA remix with Stefflon Don, but if we're talking appearances, I'd pick Bobo, Mind and maybe even Aja over Aza (which is also fine). The D'Banj entry feels minor,surely there were better shaku shakus this year? And is London Town really the best Eazi this year? Is AKWAABA too ghana for them? Would also have liked to see Terri, Ycee's Say Bye Bye and maybe Kidi's Adiepena on this list, I guess.

Burna Boy "Ye"
Wizkid x Terri x Spotless x Ceeza Milli "Soco"
Olamide "Science Student"
Niniola "Bana"
Odunsi, Zamir & Santi "Alté Cruise"
Naira Marley x Olamide x Lil Kesh "Issa Goal"
Teni "Case"
Tekno "Jogodo"
Tiwa Savage x Duncan Mighty "Lova Lova"
Mr Real x Idowest x Kelvin Chuks x Obadice "Legbegbe"
Falz "This Is Nigeria"
Davido x Duncan Mighty x Peruzzi "Aza"
Odunsi (The Engine) "Falling"
Patoranking "Suh Different"
D'banj x Slimcase x Mr Real "Issa Banger"
DJ Spinall x Wizkid "Nowo"
Tay Iwar x Odunsi (The Engine) "Sugardaddy"
Mr Eazi x Giggs "London Town"
Wande Coal x Juls "So Mi So"
Olamide x Wizkid "Kana"
2baba x Peruzzi "Amaka"
Sarz x WurlD "Trobul"
ClassiQ "Gargajiya"
M.I "Last Night I Had a Dream About A Hummingbird"
Adekunle Gold "Ire"

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 6 December 2018 09:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Forgot to edit out the list that I kept in the post as reference while writing it, sorry.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 6 December 2018 09:19 (one week ago) Permalink

“Fake Love” is a glaring omission, yes - but “Kana” is actually on the list! (“Nowo” is there as well, so that makes three fir Wizzy as well). “Akwaaba” and “Adiepena” are Ghanaian tracks, so their absence is not strange. I do agree with you about “London Town”, it’s my least favorite thing Eazi has done this year.

breastcrawl, Thursday, 6 December 2018 10:05 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh right, totally missed Kana on the list, lol.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 6 December 2018 10:30 (one week ago) Permalink

I also really miss Tiwa's Vibe on that list even though Lova Lova might well be the best Tiwa song this year.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 6 December 2018 10:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Great list. Can you Spotify it? I would swap out 'Case' for 'Shakeam' even though both songs are great

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:37 (one week ago) Permalink

I would ad 'Ma Lo' and possibly 'One' by Tiwa Savage

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:38 (one week ago) Permalink

oh wait, sorry i thoguht that was a personal list but it's OkayAfrica's

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:39 (one week ago) Permalink

They do have a best of 2018 playlist up but it's kinda different from this one.
https://open.spotify.com/user/okayafricaofficial/playlist/2NfPwqoxwxlOSwKK3sn6an?si=8S8wUwD8SQiNl5TIWow1lQ

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:59 (one week ago) Permalink

That’s a pan-African one by the looks of it (and apparently a work in progress?). Blinky Blink is on it too, yay!

breastcrawl, Thursday, 6 December 2018 14:57 (one week ago) Permalink

just in case you didn't spot this one:

Okayafrica - Best of East Africa 2018
https://www.okayafrica.com/east-african-songs-best-2018-listen-stream/

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:14 (one week ago) Permalink

Looking forward to checking out that list, there’s quite a few I haven’t heard.

(xp to self: the guy’s name is Blinky BILL, no need to make it any worse)

breastcrawl, Friday, 7 December 2018 09:11 (one week ago) Permalink

There's a new Davido and it's pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWYc2ezruO4

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 7 December 2018 11:04 (one week ago) Permalink

There's also a new Tekno, but on a first listen it's lacking some... fizz? It might grow on me, of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWeit5vyzpo

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 7 December 2018 11:14 (one week ago) Permalink

going through okayafrica's best of east africa list and this is delightful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SciUYMSnBs

Sauti Sol - Short N Sweet ft Nyashinski

ufo, Friday, 7 December 2018 13:16 (one week ago) Permalink

OkayAfrica also did a looong Ghana list: https://www.okayafrica.com/ghana-songs-music-best-2018-listen-stream

GuiltyBeatz x Mr Eazi x Patapaa x Pappy Kojo "Akwaaba"
Kuami Eugene "Wish Me Well"
Kwesi Arthur x M.anifest "Feels"
Shatta Wale "My Level"
Joey B x La Même Gang "Stables"
Amaarae "Fluid"
E.L "Ghana Meets Naija"
KiDi "Thunder"
Becca x Sarkodie "Nana"
Eddie Khae "Do The Dance"
La Même Gang "Stone Island"
Akwaboah x Strongman "Forget"
Efya x Mr Eazi "Mamee"
R2Bees x Wizkid "Supa"
B4Bonah x M.anifest "Devil Is A Liar (Remix)"
Juls x Kojey Radical "Normal"
Kwesi Arthur "Woara"
Sarkodie "Black Excellence"
Medikal x Kwesi Arthur x Ahtitude "How Much"
Wendy Shay "Bedroom Commando"
King Promise "Abena"
Miyaki "Anfara"
Mzvee x K "Bend Down"

Somehow I think I've only heard Awkwaaba :/

rob, Saturday, 8 December 2018 15:35 (six days ago) Permalink

aw that Sauti Sol is adorable!

I guess Blinky Bill is an old Australian cartoon? Anyway, breastcrawl your link didn't work, but I listened to "Don't Worry" and it's a little weird and very good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPIZRezWjj8

I feel like dog latin might be partic into this?

rob, Saturday, 8 December 2018 15:44 (six days ago) Permalink

hmmm I'm not sure about it yet, might need to give it a couple more plays. First thoughts are that there's something missing from it, like a hook of some sort that isn't there...

I was thinking last night while I was tired that it would be great if (some of) the specialist thread regulars were to compile a sort of 'best of year' or 'best of all time' list - say 25 absolute anthems of the genre and then make a poll that's open to all board members? It would be a great chance for people who don't post or follow these threads to get a good primer on a style they aren't familiar with. What do you think?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 8 December 2018 15:54 (six days ago) Permalink

yeah so far the Blinky album is less out there than I was expecting, and scrolling up I see breastcrawl was talking about neo-soul influences on it so I'm not sure where I got that idea. More positively it reminds me of last year's Pierre Kwenders album that I love.

rob, Saturday, 8 December 2018 15:59 (six days ago) Permalink

I like the specialist poll idea and would be happy to help put together one for dancehall, though a 2018 one would be considerably easier than an all-time.

rob, Saturday, 8 December 2018 16:03 (six days ago) Permalink

Yeah, a 2018 dancehall poll would be nice. A 2018 african music one might work too. Soca is more difficult because of the seasons thing, which doesn't go well with annual polling.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 8 December 2018 16:21 (six days ago) Permalink

Okay, first things first: Here’s the correct link for Blinky Bill’s “Showdown”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIVAPwcG0xc

The album is far from perfect (his vocals are quite weak for one) but there’s 5 or 6 tracks that I really like. (rob, I think I can sorta see your Kwenders comparison, but BB feels far more stodgy to me. Did you know Pierre K has a new song out?)

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:42 (three days ago) Permalink

OkayAfrica’s East African 25: Yes, I like that Wasafi Records sound, am currently digging “Katika”, which I posted last week. The biggest Tanzanian hit of my year, Rayvanny’s “Chombo”, is not on the list unfortunately.

I wasn’t blown away by any of the songs I hadn’t heard before. I do like this punchy dancehall track though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B1RmTjWyUQ

Brian Simba feat. Vanessa Mdee & Michael Love • Silence

Surprised by the absence of Eddy Kenzo on this list tbh. I thought his output this year (album included) was really good.

Also not on the list, just a super sweet song from Rwanda I fell in love with today:

https://youtu.be/uYjV6Rw9u_Y

Muco feat. Deejay Pius • No More

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:44 (three days ago) Permalink

Once more, with feeling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYjV6Rw9u_Y

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:49 (three days ago) Permalink

Anything resembling singeli or other “street music” (Tanzanian or otherwise) is probably not mainstream enough for this kind of list - although some of those videos have millions of views iirc.

Which brings me to this: It might be old news, but I just found out that the Sound of Sisso compilation (which includes Makaveli’s “Nammiliki”) and other Nyege Nyege Tapes releases are now on Spotify (these were discussed on this thread back in February).

This is a very interesting link in this regard, about Nyege Nyege and “East Africa’s new wave” - also old and possibly posted before somewhere:
https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3107

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:51 (three days ago) Permalink

gah, SoundS of Sisso!

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:53 (three days ago) Permalink

xp oh cool!!

frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:21 (three days ago) Permalink

I like the poll idea, btw. It could be a good way to generate more interest in African pop. I mean, 12 people voted in the Burna Boy poll and the Rolling playlist on Spotify has only 15 followers, down from 29 last year and 55(!) in 2016. That says a lot about the current state of ILM, I guess (as well as forks’ marketing skills).

Those numbers don’t say everything though, because I don’t think the thread was busier in previous years - so maybe the goal should be stimulating engagement more than anything, and a poll might help do that.

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:29 (three days ago) Permalink

So good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVwi1AKQhzs

MalumzOnDecks & Gino Brown feat. Mr Vince • Shay’iNumber

In other South African news:
* Master KG, he of “Skeleton Move”, has an album out - it’s good!
* The new Dbn Nyts album, SeXtion 3, is quite a treat as well.
* And yes, OkayAfrica has a Best of South Africa list too: https://www.okayafrica.com/south-african-songs-best-2018-listen-stream/ It’s shockingly non-gqom, but apart from that (ha!) it does look very interesting.
* For instance, it has “Ntombi” by NaaqMusiq ft. Bucie, which is a delightful song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKFpghUmia4

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:50 (three days ago) Permalink

"The 30 Best South African Songs of 2018":

Nathan • Clairvoyant
Black Coffee & David Guetta ft. Delilah Montagu • Drive
Zoocci Coke Dope ft. KLY • FWM
Manu WorldStar • NaLingi
NaakMusiQ ft. Bucie • Ntombi
Emtee ft. S’Villa & Snymaan • Abantu
Sjava ft. Emtee & Saudi • Abangani
Nasty_C ft. Rowlene • SMA
Nonku Phiri • Sîfó
BigStar Johnson ft. Rouge • Two Cups
Batuk • Move!
Sun-EL Musician ft. Simmy & Lelo Kamau • Sonini
Radio 123 • Manga Manga
RMBO ft. Morena Leraba • Mzabalazo
Muzi ft. Tiro • Questions (Other Draft)
AKA ft. Kiddominant • Fela In Versace
J Molley • Seven Bottles
Petite Noir ft. Danny Brown & Nukubi Nukubi • Beach
Mlindo The Vocalist ft. Sjava • Egoli
Jabba X (HHP) • Mazenke Music
Aewon Wolf • Zoo Keeper
Anatii • Ntloni
Bonj • Til The Tide
Sibu Nzuza ft. Aewon Wolf & Simmy Sims • Potoza Game
Kimosabe • Someone Else
Black Motion ft. Msaki • Rise
KLY • Umbuzo
Beatenberg • Camera
Una Rams • Joy
Thandi Ntuli • New Way

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 17:10 (three days ago) Permalink

So different from “my” South African year - I only know about 25% of these songs.

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 17:17 (three days ago) Permalink

Yeah, the Odunsi love really sticks out. He seems to be the figurehead of the alté scene, the “alternative” (and I guess quite bourgie) scene that broke through commercially this year and that’s associated with Lagos Island (he and the Island scene are both featured in the Mr Eazi documentary I posted a few days ago).

I don’t find his music particularly interesting either, for the reasons rob states, but I get that it might be exciting/cool to have someone doing credible homegrown contemporary r&b when you’re a Nigerian listener.

I like that wavy/vibey/groovy thing so much more when it’s mixed with a healthy dose of Afro elements: that’s why I like the Show Dem Camp album better than the Odunsi, for instance (they came out a week apart iirc). My impression is that in Ghana they’re better at this, Kuvie is a good example.

― breastcrawl, Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:24 PM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Late here, but should note that the unsung father of this aesthetic is undoubtedly Burna Boy.

tsrobodo, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:51 (three days ago) Permalink

Unsung father of Alté? Or of everything wavy/vibey/groovy?

I realize that I may not have expressed myself all that clearly, but I was specifically referring to the r&b-kind of wavy/vibey/groovy, which is why I singled out Kuvie on the Ghanaian side (both as a producer and on his own album).

Burna’s “afro-fusion” has always been much more heavily infused with reggae/dancehall than with r&b. And while Odunsi calls his music “afro-fusion” too, citing Burna and Blackmagic as major influences (as well as older artists like Wale Thompson and Angelique Kidjo), and I can hear the Burna, especially in his older stuff, the heavy r&b focus makes his version of fusion a different kettle of fish imo.

Someone like Juls (again on the Ghanaian side, by way of the UK) is closer to the Burna aesthetic, I think, to the point they’ve actually worked together (Burna and Odunsi have this in common at least), but I’m not sure that Juls arrived at his sound through Burna.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:57 (two days ago) Permalink

(Don’t get me wrong, I like Odunsi’s music fine, I just fail to see what the big deal is. The fawning coverage he gets is flabbergasting. Take this review: https://www.okayafrica.com/odunsi-rare-album-stream-listen/
This profile takes the cake: https://www.morebranches.com/the-evolution-of-odunsi-the-engine/

Quote: ”By now, it was no news that Odunsi was set to release his first album which was about to be the next big export out of Nigeria since Wizkid’s ’Superstar’ album.”

Another quote: ”Today, we celebrate a young man who has distinctively filtered his sound and name to places we can’t yet imagine, validating his throne as the next big thing. Maybe the greatest we may see out of Africa.”

I mean, really? Really really?)

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:58 (two days ago) Permalink

Anyway, all of this is a great excuse to post Blackmagic’s classic and utterly brilliant “Repete” (from 2012):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23MsneAXhAc

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:00 (two days ago) Permalink

I def have noticed ppl in the industry here seem to see Odunsi as more viable than lots of 'mainstream' african stars ... idk if its classed bias or alt branding or what but it feels both extremely predictable & not necessarily bad but potentially bad

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 20:29 (two days ago) Permalink

The industry would be wrong in thinking that, I think. American r&b and hip hop artists are starting to add that afro flavour by themselves already. No need to water down stuff. Kpop is finally getting there on its own terms now as well after years of failed crossover attempts.

(I’m actually partially retracting my “I like Odunsi’s music fine” statement from earlier. That was based on listening to his older stuff, but I just now listened to his album in full again, and I still think it’s overwhelmingly boring)

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:03 (two days ago) Permalink

i just think its more about who its marketed to ... fans of tierra whack & frank ocean are more likely to like odunsi than wizkid ... but fans of drake are more likely to like wizkid ... this is more about audiences + marketing imo

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:05 (two days ago) Permalink

I didn't listen to the whole Odunsi album, but it was def dull. That said, I think deej is right here even though I'd never heard of this dude until recently. I'd add that Odunsi singing in standardized English has to be a factor too.

rob, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:14 (two days ago) Permalink

fwiw i genuinely like some odunsi songs, just as solid R&B music ... of course i listen to it next to idk "Banomoya" and you're like, lol, but its still good. i havent heard the new album though

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:18 (two days ago) Permalink

What deej said may be true to some extent, but I’m not sure the marketing angle is the right way to go. The only way anything is really going to happen is if you bring the real thing. Marketed-towards-US Wizkid didn’t happen, Made-in-Lagos Wizkid might, and everyone would be better and happier for it.

Same thing with the standardized English: look at the success of reggaeton and, again, Kpop (in case you missed it, BTS is #1-album and top-10-single-level huge in the US and elsewhere singing and rapping predominantly in Korean) .

btw, funny old thing: Odunsi is not on this Best Nigerian Albums list that NickB posted on the 2018 EOY music lists thread (Show Dem Camp is though):

http://www.dailyadvent.com/index.php/2018/12/12/exclusive-list-of-the-top-10-nigerian-music-albums-that-blew-our-minds-in-2018-number-5-already-got-a-grammy-nomination/

I assume Kizz Daniel would have been on it if he hadn’t dropped his album after the cut-off date - it’s better than the Mayorkun, fun as that one is. I feel LAX deserved to place too.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:41 (two days ago) Permalink

I think making it an issue of “authenticity” is problematic tho ... isn’t odunsi seen as, like, more authentic in the sense of he’s a regular guy/ anti-showbiz / “real talent” ? That’s as much “real” African music as the stuff we find more interesting musically & more successful commercially

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:55 (two days ago) Permalink

I mean problematic in the sense of needs unpacking not “aura of morally bad”

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 21:56 (two days ago) Permalink

I’m not questioning Odunsi’s authenticity, I’m pretty sure he’s making the music he wants to make. I was looking at it from the US industry’s perspective, since you brought it up, and I think there’s (new) lessons to be learned from Kpop and Latin pop when it comes to crossing over with “foreign” genres in the late 2010s.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 22:50 (two days ago) Permalink

Unsung father of Alté? Or of everything wavy/vibey/groovy?

I realize that I may not have expressed myself all that clearly, but I was specifically referring to the r&b-kind of wavy/vibey/groovy, which is why I singled out Kuvie on the Ghanaian side (both as a producer and on his own album).

Burna’s “afro-fusion” has always been much more heavily infused with reggae/dancehall than with r&b. And while Odunsi calls his music “afro-fusion” too, citing Burna and Blackmagic as major influences (as well as older artists like Wale Thompson and Angelique Kidjo), and I can hear the Burna, especially in his older stuff, the heavy r&b focus makes his version of fusion a different kettle of fish imo.

Someone like Juls (again on the Ghanaian side, by way of the UK) is closer to the Burna aesthetic, I think, to the point they’ve actually worked together (Burna and Odunsi have this in common at least), but I’m not sure that Juls arrived at his sound through Burna.

― breastcrawl, Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:57 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To be clear, alte was coined to describe an emerging subculture reaching far beyond music.
I think this is the best distillation you'll find anywhere of what that entails.
https://becomingyeva.com/alte-lagos-all-you-need-to-know/

Colloquially its simply a delineator of perceived countercultural difference e.g. I get called alte for wearing barbour jackets and having a dog.

In as far as it does relates to music and visual style, Burna Boy was a fair representation of that bohemian, cosmopolitan aesthetic for a while before the movement took hold.

Burna has played with a lot of sounds (to very mixed results in the earlier years) and while his delivery/vocals have typically favoured reggae/dancehall it's probably wrong to frame his music exclusively in such terms when R&B influence has primacy in a number of his most prominent tracks; "Like to Party", "Don Gorgon", "Pree me"...

"Soke" in particular represents what I see as an awakening point both in the crystalisation of Burna's own sound and laying the groundwork for a kind of decidedly non-danceable wavy/vibey/groovy R&B that wasn't presumed to be in high demand.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 02:00 (yesterday) Permalink

I def have noticed ppl in the industry here seem to see Odunsi as more viable than lots of 'mainstream' african stars ... idk if its classed bias or alt branding or what but it feels both extremely predictable & not necessarily bad but potentially bad

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:29 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

How much of this would you say is just a function of it being easier to sell things to industry people that they already feel they understand?

tsrobodo, Thursday, 13 December 2018 02:03 (yesterday) Permalink

This has nothing to do with anything, but I just want to say how much I love Sauti Sol and how much I love this thread for telling me when there's a new single out.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 December 2018 14:26 (yesterday) Permalink

Finally checking out the Mr Eazi album and this one with Burna Boy is superb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHztnu5WM-w

pvmic, but I also dig the one with Chronixx

rob, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:05 (yesterday) Permalink


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