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I am starting this thread for a specific purpose: to harness the collective knowledge of ILM in order to help me provide the best music appreciation class to my students. I think ILM has the friendliest group with the widest-ranging interests, so that is why I am posting here. Also, I have been a community member for some time. I hope and trust that the conversation can remain civil and helpful.

There is a course syllabus and a structure I have in mind; I'm not looking for teaching strategies or ideas.
I am looking for information, youtubes/links, recommendations within certain parameters (TBD).
(Note: I plan to use youtube for sharing with students, so all other streaming services are out, I'm afraid.)

My plan is to post questions here, and then hopefully people will help me to answer them.
I thank you in advance for your help and civility, you are doing a musical community service :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:07 (four months ago) Permalink

bookmarked

clouds, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:08 (four months ago) Permalink

The first few weeks will be introduction, overview of various facets of the music industry, basic musical terminology, how to describe music, examples of certain terms (this is what I might need some help with initially)
I need to meet my students before I proceed much beyond that, at least wrt this thread.

Bookmarking is a good idea -- that way you will know when I have a question and you can help me answer it! :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:12 (four months ago) Permalink

Down!

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:32 (four months ago) Permalink

Yep, bookmarked!

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:44 (four months ago) Permalink

https://youtu.be/JkYhneTczXo

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:46 (four months ago) Permalink

Ok I forgot a rule -- please do not post youtubes without words telling me what they are. Thank you.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:48 (four months ago) Permalink

Bookmarked

Good thread idea

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:29 (four months ago) Permalink

Bookmarked. HMU for classical, 20th c and film score stuff.

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:38 (four months ago) Permalink

I've bookmarked as well.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:52 (four months ago) Permalink

LL, I have to admit the first time you mentioned this I had an image

You're sitting at a drum set in the front of a classroom, drumming as students file in. The class begins, and you pause

"Music!"
drum a little more

"What is it?"
do a little fill

and then a little more of the intro to the class until you finally wind down into slow cymbal crashes, then get up and present the syllabus

mh, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:05 (four months ago) Permalink

I feel like this is cheesy and completely reminiscent of something I've seen and I've been holding back

mh, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:06 (four months ago) Permalink

On the actual practical advice side:

How music is taught. After using some of the books in learning, I found reading up on the background of the Suzuki Method fascinating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_method

mh, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:11 (four months ago) Permalink

I wanted to learn via the Suzuki method so badly when I was a kid. The teacher was too expensive iirc :( But this isn't a music performance class and students aren't learning how to play instruments (although I may do a short workshop introducing improvisation in the 2nd half of the semester because I already have that all done)

My initial goal with this class is to be as inclusive as possible, and start off by giving them some tools for listening to, describing, and discussing different types of music as well as its context. Then we can start talking about different types of music.

I only hope I am up to the challenge, and I hope to do the best job I can this first time. The next time will certainly be better and easier.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:21 (four months ago) Permalink

Things I may be asking from this thread:

1) examples of certain key terms (what is a quintessential example of a crescendo? examples of songs in xyz scale? different types of melody, etc)

2) essential artists/tracks in a variety of types of music -- folk (from anywhere in the world), popular music (from anywhere in the world), classical music (not just Western but other types too -- I don't know much about this so I'll def need ILM assistance)

3) musicians who are willing to be interviewed by students (questions will be predetermined -- I did this for a student last year and it was exceptionally enjoyable as no one had ever interviewed me about music before)

4) electrifying live performances on youtube to share and watch in class

Overall, fun questions to answer! At least I think so.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:28 (four months ago) Permalink

i can maybe connect you with certain artists to discuss an interview
and can generally talk folk/pop/genre-specific suggestions out the wazoo

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:42 (four months ago) Permalink

cool, thank you -- folk/pop/genre-specific suggestions out the wazoo this is why i started this thread, to harness the substantial collective knowledge of ILM!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:46 (four months ago) Permalink

It's a little basic but this video of Bobby McFerrin guiding an audience through the pentatonic scale is delightful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6tB2KiZuk

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:05 (four months ago) Permalink

yes! basic is what i am looking for -- this is a survey course and i need to cover the basic before i can go into any more depth

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:06 (four months ago) Permalink

i've seen mcferrin do that bit live in concert; it really works somehow!
see also: entire arenas knowing the right notes for "AIR-BALL"

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:13 (four months ago) Permalink

I took a Music Appreciation class in 6th grade (1977) that was very influential to me, but the only thing I really remember now is that our teach (Ms. Kennedy) went through all the lyrics of "American Pie" explaining the lyrical metaphors ("jester" = Dylan, etc.) and it BLEW MY MIND

sleeve, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:21 (four months ago) Permalink

Will likely benefit from this myself and happy to share when I can.

Whole thread reminded me of this Stark Reality edu-jam: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FIm60fP_KwY

Skip to 4:25 is you’re not feeling super patient

rob, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:23 (four months ago) Permalink

When you get to chords and chord changes, the widely shared Axis of Awesome doing "4 Chord Song" should provide familiar reference points for your students.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=every+4+chord+song

Brave Combover (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:45 (four months ago) Permalink

Ooh yeah -- the other thing I'd like to find is the youtube of a drummer going through like 50 years of popular beats?! I googled and couldn't find it.

I started a youtube channel w playlists, let's hope I can keep it organized and updated...

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:48 (four months ago) Permalink

There's a really great documentary on the music scene of New York in the 70s which is a great primer for cbgbs, bands like talking heads, ramones and I think it focuses on disco as well. Probably too long for class tho, but certainly gives a good look at the social climate too and how music was a reaction to that.

I'll wait for your questions :)

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:50 (four months ago) Permalink

here's a drumming history in multiple parts that might be interesting for your budding percussionists?
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpKMeH_MXcaSL7sTLRAzOaWf6NLQgX9W4

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:51 (four months ago) Permalink

i should probably watch that myself

none of my students are required to be musicians -- they are not being trained to be musicians either. they are fulfilling an academic obligation to the humanities in order to earn their credits to graduate. i can't say for sure since i haven't met them yet, but they are probably interested in a fun class where they get to learn about stuff that isn't boring. my obligation is to provide a well-rounded overview as well as opportunities for fun projects with maximum mind-blowing listening opportunities for everyone :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:55 (four months ago) Permalink

Ooh, F bomb in part of that though...

Brave Combover (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:57 (four months ago) Permalink

...part of that Axis of Awesome vid.

Brave Combover (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:58 (four months ago) Permalink

thanks for the warning

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:05 (four months ago) Permalink

you're supposed to listen to aaron copland in this kind of class iirc

j., Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:08 (four months ago) Permalink

Not outside of North America. At least I hope not.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:09 (four months ago) Permalink

I doubt I'll have much to contribute as I'm a rank amateur when it comes to this stuff but great thread idea, btw.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:10 (four months ago) Permalink

When you get to chords and chord changes, the widely shared Axis of Awesome doing "4 Chord Song" should provide familiar reference points for your students.

Rob Paravonian's "Pachelbel Rant" is also good for showing connections between contemporary popular chord progressions and Baroque/CPE antecedents. He calls Pachelbel a one-hit wonder of the 1790s, though, when he was really closer to a one-hit wonder of the 1690s.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:16 (four months ago) Permalink

spent a few minutes grimacing at j.'s post

mh, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:21 (four months ago) Permalink

well i have no idea if this will be any use but here's a half-finished series of amateur thoughts on classical music:

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/rushomancy/the-classical/

Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:04 (four months ago) Permalink

i’m also interested how music curriculum now deals with the “classical music” versus “classical period” dichotomy. I had a few teachers who would grimace if anything other than the period (1750-1820ish) was referred to as “classical” and insist we use the right terms, but I think generally things are looser?

mh, Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:31 (four months ago) Permalink

Generally, in an academic context, "Western art music" is the preferred term for the entire tradition. "Classical music" may sometimes be used in more general lower-level courses, especially if WAM is not the primary focus of the course.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 18 January 2018 11:46 (four months ago) Permalink

That said, no one says e.g. "I play guitar in the Western art music tradition" as opposed "I play classical guitar".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 18 January 2018 11:55 (four months ago) Permalink

Also WAM also commonly stands for Mozart which makes things extra confusing

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:02 (four months ago) Permalink

i might adopt the western art music terminology to distinguish between "classical" traditions in other parts of the world.
the syllabus that i was given spends a week each on the baroque period. the classical period, the romantic period, 20th c/modern classical music and...buckle your seatbelt..."music of the oklahomans"
i am going to see what my students are like before i commit to 4-5 weeks of western art music + whatever the oklahomans are up to in the second half of the semester.

i need to emphasize that this is 1) an elective 2) students are not only not studying music, they are barely studying the arts. this class might be the best opportunity they have/have had to explore different types of music in an academic context.

i also need to get them to a live performance, which shouldn't be too hard since our class is at night. we also have a performance space we could potentially use with a fully functioning piano in it!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Leonard Bernstein explains intervals and the development of the circle of fifths with brevity and giddy enthusiasm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt2zubHcER4

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:51 (four months ago) Permalink

I've spent a couple of years reading about and listening to pre-WWI recorded music, minstrel shows, ragtime, cakewalk, Sousa, etc, would by no means call myself an expert but can recommend the best books and recordings I've encountered if you feel like going in that direction.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:56 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was answering mh's question, to be clear, not suggesting that you should be fussy about terminology in a gen ed music appreciation class. 2xp

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:57 (four months ago) Permalink

(Very curious about this Oklahomans business, though.)

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:00 (four months ago) Permalink

that bernstein video is perfect, thank you

pre-WWI recorded music, minstrel shows, ragtime, cakewalk, Sousa, etc, would by no means call myself an expert i may need your help, thank you. for some reason* i am really excited about telling them about the gigantic shift that occurred once music started to be recorded and played at home (not family singalongs, but records!) and the resulting explosion of music. i remember learning that and finding it so compelling to contemplate. also my gpa worked for RCA so i was familiar with the gramophone and the doggie. i'm trying to stay away from forcing them to learn the pet things i am interested in but i'm sure a little of that is inevitable.

i thought maybe the oklahomans was like grapes of wrath/okies/oh susanna/i've been workin' on the railroad?! if that's not it, i have no idea tbh.

* the reason is obvious, this is the kind of music dork i am

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:04 (four months ago) Permalink

LL if you want to have some retro fun i recommend showing the classic "Mr. B Natural" short. MST3K famously riffs it but i was actually shown this film in class.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:06 (four months ago) Permalink

If you're looking for the broadest possible overview of Western art music, I very much enjoyed A Concise History of Western Music by Paul Griffiths.

pomenitul, Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:08 (four months ago) Permalink

i have a textbook -- World of Music by David Willoughby

there are so many movies i want to show them. one of my priorities is to give them a solid background for talking about music and then encouraging them to research, describe, and present their findings to the class. there are three projects where they can choose their topic. i haven't settled on the general themes for each one yet.

they also will write 2 short papers 1) describing a performance they saw 2) interview a musician

in between all that, i need to present information to them. that's the basic structure of the class. it is 3 hours every tuesday night.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:18 (four months ago) Permalink

re producers, George Martin

Brad C., Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:18 (one month ago) Permalink

1: Studio One, Fania, Impulse!

rob, Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:30 (one month ago) Permalink

1. ESP-DISK 2. John Hammond signed Dylan and made sure his then-unusual sound and material came through, unscrewed-with, and on major label Columbia, not Vanguard etc (see also "Hammond's Folly"). Made sure Robert Johnson's sides were finally issued on legit LP, also weird then for Columbia. Signed
Canadian thirtysomething hubbie-dad-novelist-poet L. Cohen, to Columbia as a deep singer-songwriter, the kids don't want that, John!

dow, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:00 (one month ago) Permalink

producers: bacharach & david

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:54 (one month ago) Permalink

producers: norman whitfield, holland-dozier-holland

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:58 (one month ago) Permalink

yes, now we're talking
thank you. these are people/things i know of but never directly associated with the 1960s or forgot!
we are def getting into fania (even though i recently learned that willie colon is an active trumpist :( )

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 8 April 2018 22:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Producer: Lee Hazlewood

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Monday, 9 April 2018 16:32 (one month ago) Permalink

REQUEST: youtubes of Beatles-inspired bands from around the world (contemporaneous with the Beatles or shortly after) I know there was a comp released of maybe Mexican Beatles-inspired bands? I can't remember. Help!

(I am googling like crazy today getting ready for my 1960s class. I have limited time and resources but I want to give them as much info as possible, all relevant suggestions appreciated!)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 14:15 (one month ago) Permalink

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Os Mutantes were Beatles fanatics? Don't think they covered any Beatles songs, though.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 14:33 (one month ago) Permalink

perfect -- that is exactly what i needed! mission accomplished!
i have Os Mutantes on the plan already ;) i need to cover the big topics so this "meanwhile, in the rest of the world" section is an aside with links so we're not going into super detail bc there is so much to cover

i am excited to go from "theme from a summer place" to VU but also trying to stay focused & keep breathing :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 14:56 (one month ago) Permalink

Ooh there is also a Cathy Berberian record where she does her thing to the Beatles songbook, I can ysi if u need it.

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Also, in terms of doing something distinctive, self-expressive with Beatle-y sounds, the first two Big Star albums---Third/Sister Lovers has more of a Velvet Underground vibe---although they always seemed like they liked Left Banke too, and LB had their own bittersweet childe of JohnPaulGeorge thing going on, gliding on thee strings more often and reliably than actual Beatles did.

dow, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 20:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Ray Charles' "Eleanor Rigby," Wilson Pickett's "Hey Jude" (even way before Duane Allman cuts loose), 80i(Eno, Manzanera etc)'s live "Tomorrow Never Knows," Smokey Robinson's "Yesterday," Willie Nelson's too: both live and acappella (or just about). Maybe Beatallica, but I haven't heard it (reminds me that Cobain said his basic idea for Nirvana was Black Sabbath Beatles)

dow, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 20:40 (one month ago) Permalink

801, that is.

dow, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 20:41 (one month ago) Permalink

glad to help - oh i forgot one more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYnqVS0eDdA

as for ray charles more people need to hear his version of "the long and winding road", which is actually good

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 02:36 (one month ago) Permalink

i spent many hours putting together tonight's presentation and it was worth it. my coverage of the 1960s was far from comprehensive but i did the best i could under the circumstances, as usual
highlights:

* going from "theme from a summer place" to "black sabbath"
* they liked "sittin' on the dock of the bay"
* youngest student (ardent 1D fan) heard more beatles songs than she had ever heard in her life and she liked them
* talking about beatlemania was fun
* i wore a period-appropriate dress & shoes
* the big one -- their favorite version of "all along the watchtower" truly shocked me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmrql7Zhg-c

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:09 (one month ago) Permalink

* they also enjoyed learning about leonard cohen

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:10 (one month ago) Permalink

It's that time!!

REQUEST: nonanglophone punk/new wave/synth pop from around the world in the late 70s/early 80s

REQUEST: essential must hear rap 1977-1984? is there a list of such a thing somewhere (on ilx or elsewhere)?

i have been trying not to feed them any company line about the "invention" (usually dubious) or "importance" (extremely subjective) or any particular type of music or subgenre. just trying to give them an idea of when and how influential sounds emerged.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 16:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Have you seen Hip Hop Evolution on Netflix? First episode is as good a primer on hip hop's beginnings as I've run across.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 16:46 (one month ago) Permalink

REQUEST: nonanglophone punk/new wave/synth pop from around the world in the late 70s/early 80s

Kleenex (who later changed their name to LiLiPUT) - an all-female Swiss punk band, very influential on some (obscure) 90s bands I love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp8NYBUBnss

I also love early-80s Japanese new wave synth pop but don't know much about it - know this is amazing though-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHGqvYVfpEU

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 16:57 (one month ago) Permalink

i'm going to have to save hip hop evolution (the whole concept) for next week, will watch
thanks for those two -- helpful!
i just need a few examples of international iterations of the punk/new wave/synth pop concept -- any contributions welcome. i don't know much about this but i know it's out there.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 17:10 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7X6oYg6iro

Siegbran, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 17:28 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2lvpLX8CCU

You can cover international synth pop/wave with this one, and mention Italo in passing :)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSqdiyg4iAU

Siegbran, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 17:39 (one month ago) Permalink

I know that Poland was especially replete with synth pop acts in that period but I don’t know any names

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 19:14 (one month ago) Permalink

neither do i!
i am looking for more non-euro stuff if anyone has brilliant ideas

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 19:40 (one month ago) Permalink

not non-euro, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTo79sPCVXA

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 19:54 (one month ago) Permalink

(Polish so not non-Euro; also check out Dezerter for Polish punk. Timothy Ryback's "Punk in Poland" in Rocking the State, ed. Sabrina Ramet, is a good start.)

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 23:03 (one month ago) Permalink

i forgot about yellow magic orchestra!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 23:24 (one month ago) Permalink

A good soul jazz comp on Brazilian post-punk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sexual_Life_of_the_Savages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmPA4wEMGf4

Los Prisioneros, from Chile, worked in many different New Wave subgenres

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8RhLiHh5nA

A good French comp on Cold Wave

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Transmission-81-89-The-French-Cold-Wave/release/430644

This one seems to foreshadow PJ Harvey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNEJX6GC20

From the German angle, I find the career of Gudrun Gut really fascinating, as she's followed the post-punk impetus through the decades, from industrial and goth to techno and modern DAW approaches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13OiNFPINKc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CWkq1zXs10

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 26 April 2018 11:38 (one month ago) Permalink

excellent -- thank you!

one of the highlights from this week was letting my students browse some of my early 80s records. one of them asked me from across the room "what's this?" and held up new order's low-life <3 she liked the look of it
lots of highlights this week though for sure. i told them that rock music started to splinter like those brooms in fantasia
lol

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:48 (one month ago) Permalink

low-life was a little after my cutoff date for this week but we were talking about joy division and she fell right into my teaching trap :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:01 (one month ago) Permalink

question --

the billboard charts appear to introduce Latin music to their archives in 1985. then, in 1986, there appears to be a war between two artists recording the same song "toda la vida" (franco & emmanuel) and trading off #1 spots? does anyone know what was going on there?
https://www.billboard.com/archive/charts/1986/latin-songs

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 12:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

nm i found some articles about it in English and Spanish !! here is one in english https://www.lemonwire.com/2017/10/18/classics-latin-music-toda-la-vida-emmanuel-also-franco/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 13:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

More important question for rap heads --
any recommended lists of classics from the mid-late 80s? I am looking for someone with more authority than me to tell my students what rap albums were essential during that period.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

run-dmc raising hell

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Er, haven't listened to any of these in quite a while, but sounded pretty damn good at the time and should still be at least of historical interest (several seemed vanguard back in the day):
Eric B & Rakim: Paid In Full, Follow The Leader
Afrika Bambaataa: Planet Rock---The Album, Looking for the Perfect Beat 1980-1985
Beastie Boys: Licensed to Ill
Boogie Down Productions:Criminal Minded (the only one I know of feat. innovative DJ Scott LaRock, though I always enjoyed the musicality of KRS-One's voice, despite/sometimes in tandem with some of his nutty words)
Think female rappers may have been more 90s? But some good albs in 80s:
Neneh Cherry, Raw Like Sushi
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five: The Message
MC Lyte: Eyes On This
Public Enemy: It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Queen Latifa: All Hail The Queen(some were v. skeptical 'til I played it)
The Real Roxanne: s/t
Salt-N-Peppa: Hot, Cool and Vicious (def. on the pop side, but got the flava!)
Blanking on some of my compilation tapes, but these should be historical and fun:
Rap's Greatest Hits (Priorty label: breezy & gritty & goofin')
Rap's Greatest Hits Vol. 2 (Sugarhill!)
Mr. Magic's Rap Attack, Vol. 4 (radio radio!)

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 17:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Big Daddy Kane - Long Live the Kane is a must, plus some obvious ones like De La - 3 Feet High and Rising and NWA - Straight Outta Compton

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 17:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'm not enough of a head to attest to the value of these personally, but Ego Trip's lists are online: http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/ego_trip_page2.htm

rob, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The Perfect Beats: New York Electro Hip Hop + Underground Dance Classics 1980-1985 (I've got four volumes, may be more)

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 18:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Also, Steinski always had his own vision of hip-hop, from the early 80s at least, maybe the 70s, and some of the 80s stuff, remastered, is posted via this official site, his and early partner Double Dee's--join the mailing list and get a code for download of yr. choice: https://ddski.com/ (early stuff on youtube as well).Burning Out of Control, Steinski's panoramic mix album of Sugarhill tracks, some deep in the catalog, is very edutational.

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

*has* always had, I meant: he's still at it.

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"edutational"? Screw it, it's very educational and entertaining.

dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

RIP Jabo :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

working on my final exam study guide
i can't believe i get paid to do this!
what a blessing

this thread has been really helpful content-wise and as a place to gather my thoughts. thank you ilxor.com :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it was a true pleasure

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

final exam today!
i have also realized that this semester was like a rough outline of what the class should be; it's more than nothing, but it will get better. overall, i think my students learned a lot! it's a lot to learn in three hour weekly bursts.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:56 (one week ago) Permalink

i brought the yamaha dtx drum pad i played in a show on friday to class and encouraged all of my students to try it out as they left class. it's always a joy to watch people pick up drum sticks and play for the first time, and i liked the way it marked the end of the semester. we had to keep it down because this is a school during finals week but everyone gave it a try. troopers!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:10 (one week ago) Permalink


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