ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2017

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gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 05:18 (three months ago) Permalink

Smooth beginning, you guys.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 January 2018 05:28 (three months ago) Permalink

ILM’s Top 77 Albums of 2017 - Spotify Playlist

gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 05:38 (three months ago) Permalink

woo!

Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 05:40 (three months ago) Permalink

ohshitohshitohshitohshit

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 29 January 2018 06:26 (three months ago) Permalink

hello is this thing switched on?

faust apes (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2018 07:11 (three months ago) Permalink

So it begins. Soon.

octobeard, Monday, 29 January 2018 09:00 (three months ago) Permalink

hehe yay

nxd, Monday, 29 January 2018 09:52 (three months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/6xdlGrc.jpg

77 AIMEE MANN "Mental Illness" (186 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
spoitfy

gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 11:12 (three months ago) Permalink

Didn't even know she had a new one out.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 29 January 2018 11:16 (three months ago) Permalink

Great little bruiser of a record.

Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 11:43 (three months ago) Permalink

think I quite liked what I heard

imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 11:48 (three months ago) Permalink

Aaw, this is lovely. It just missed my ballot so it's great to see it here! Has lots of pretty Elliott Smith inflections and is her strongest for a while imo

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 29 January 2018 11:57 (three months ago) Permalink

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76 L'RAIN "L'rain" (198 points, 7 votes)
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gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:02 (three months ago) Permalink

Aaaah TOO LOW

imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:03 (three months ago) Permalink

My #2. An absolutely incredible record

imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:03 (three months ago) Permalink

L'Rain didn't quite make my ballot but it's excellent, glad to see it show up

ufo, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:10 (three months ago) Permalink

whoop whoop. This'll be one that really breaks through this year instead of 2017.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:12 (three months ago) Permalink

i really look forward to hearing what she does in the future since this is such a good debut, first two tracks and Which Fork/I'll Be are the highlights

ufo, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:18 (three months ago) Permalink

Mental Illness sounds especially beautiful on this chilly January morning.

Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 12:30 (three months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/0MTVioT.jpg

75 ELDER "Reflections of a Floating World" (200 points, 6 votes)
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gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:32 (three months ago) Permalink

hey one of my votes already appeared! <3 the l'rain album

nxd, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:33 (three months ago) Permalink

I think the whole L'Rain album follows a beautiful dream logic. It's obviously a very carefully thought-through song-cycle (maybe sound-cycle?) - progge as fuck but also spry and lean. Emotionally intense and deeply sad, yet also blithely playful. It's the best debut I've heard in ages. Not just for the psychedelic R&B fans out there. It's for all of you.

imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:34 (three months ago) Permalink

Not for everyone, obviously, but the Elder album is superlative contemporary prog-metal.

Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 12:35 (three months ago) Permalink

It seemed decent enough to me but I've not heard it in full yet! Maybe that'll have to be addressed

imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:37 (three months ago) Permalink

enjoying the cover. might check it out

Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:42 (three months ago) Permalink

That L'Rain album would have made my Top 10 had I heard it in time, gorgeous stuff.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:44 (three months ago) Permalink

I nearly lost my shit at the birthday voicemail.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:46 (three months ago) Permalink

seriously.

imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:47 (three months ago) Permalink

Wow, it took tracks forever to get to the 200 point barrier, and we get there at #75 in this one.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:50 (three months ago) Permalink

that is strange. i'd have thought it'd be the other way round

Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:53 (three months ago) Permalink

That makes sense, given a similar number of ballots aimed at (what I assume must be) fewer entries than the tracks poll?

Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 12:54 (three months ago) Permalink

I wasn't bowled over by Elder's previous album but loved this one.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:54 (three months ago) Permalink

There were more albums than tracks nominated iirc

Think it's a combination of more albums ballots and more consensus - there was SO MUCH vote splitting in the tracks poll

imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:55 (three months ago) Permalink

108 album ballots vs. 105 tracks ballots. That's pretty even. Maybe just more albums consensus for 2017?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:55 (three months ago) Permalink

more consensus is natural given basically no vote splitting per artist, I would think

Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 12:56 (three months ago) Permalink

the albums poll has always had more consensus than the tracks poll, at least while i've been here

much less vote-splitting is the obvious reason but also just less range - there are more good tracks released than good albums

ufo, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:58 (three months ago) Permalink

True, true. I just got out of bed. Brain not working yet.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:03 (three months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/8QDYjSM.jpg

74 PLAYBOI CARTI "Playboi Carti" (201 points, 7 votes)
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gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:04 (three months ago) Permalink

very low for an excellent record

ogmor, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:05 (three months ago) Permalink

I try not to be a dinosaur and keep up on contemporary rap but try as I might this is one of those records that just makes me feel old

Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 13:08 (three months ago) Permalink

Amazed that there were more LP than tracks ballots, I never feel I've heard enough LPs by the end of a year to justify voting.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 January 2018 13:10 (three months ago) Permalink

I really like the track that got in the 77. Just silly enough to make me love it.

Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 29 January 2018 13:12 (three months ago) Permalink

Magnolia is a fucking dope tune.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:13 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah this is surprisingly low. Pi'erre and Carti are great together & wokeuplikethis* especially is fantastic

ufo, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:15 (three months ago) Permalink

Wow, it took tracks forever to get to the 200 point barrier, and we get there at #75 in this one.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, January 29, 2018

that is strange. i'd have thought it'd be the other way round

― Badgers (dog latin), Monday, January 29, 2018

108 album ballots vs. 105 tracks ballots. That's pretty even. Maybe just more albums consensus for 2017?

― Johnny Fever, Monday, January 29, 2018

For me, I think the killer point is that it looks as if you need 6+ voters to make the 77, so bang goes my slim hopes of squeezing in a couple of records that I know have a dedicated, but tiny, fanbase here.

Jeff W, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:27 (three months ago) Permalink

RIP Drab Majesty :(

ArchCarrier, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:28 (three months ago) Permalink

they'd have stood a better chance had DJP gotten a ballot in, I'd imagine.

Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 13:29 (three months ago) Permalink

Anyway. Count me as another who came to the L'Rain record after the voting deadline. Not sure I'd have voted for it but it's in my Top 50 for 2017 easy.

Jeff W, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:30 (three months ago) Permalink

paolo, we are closest neighbours. great ballot, if i do say so myself.

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 09:44 (three months ago) Permalink

Weirdly feels like Stormzy's time in the sun is already passing (or at least that's the impression I get) while J Hus is at peak hype. Wiley's work is impressive for a vet

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 09:45 (three months ago) Permalink

xp thanks! I liked yours too

paolo, Friday, 2 February 2018 09:48 (three months ago) Permalink

Stormzy's headlining a day at Wireless that sold out in record time, I'd say he's fine. Grime in general is old-hat compared to what J Hus and friends are doing but everyone knows that anyway.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 February 2018 10:02 (three months ago) Permalink

I think I don't listen voraciously to enough new albums to be a viable music-poll voter. things I've been into this year include Wiley, GAS, Migos, Kehlani, did TQD even make it?, Kendrick...maybe the Vince Staples but I'm not half as into it as Summertime '06 at the moment, JLin. I need to hear the J Hus album but I know that would be my bag, and I was unaware of Wednesday Campanella but I'm keen to listen to that, suspect i'll be all over it.

Also Zaytoven's Trapping Made It Happen but I don't even know if that's an "album". Probably other things I can't remember at work, dancewise especially. I tend to shove the things I like into big random playlists with stuff from earlier years so I don't think much about albums as albums nowadays, and most of what I'm into is about sound and texture as much as artistic definition maybe.

anyway it's handy when these lists come up with even a few suggestions that I can be late to in 2018, it's just a bit of fun.

slouching towards depresslehem (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 February 2018 10:14 (three months ago) Permalink

what i'm getting from the few times i've delved deeper is that most of J Hus's cohorts sound very very similar to J Hus, even down to the tonality of their voices. could be wrong as i've only scraped the surface. Also I'm getting very confused about the term 'Afrobeats' now.

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 10:14 (three months ago) Permalink

J hus was robbed

||||||||, Friday, 2 February 2018 10:32 (three months ago) Permalink

Grime in general is old-hat compared to what J Hus and friends are doing but everyone knows that anyway.

Agreed. The old guard in grime (eg Wiley, Skepta, JME, Ghetts, P Money etc) are still good at what they do but there's very few new MCs and producers coming through to get excited about. It's going to be interesting to see if anyone else from the afro-bashment/afro-swing scene (or indeed from the drill scene) can do a J Hus this year

paolo, Friday, 2 February 2018 10:42 (three months ago) Permalink

never heard of uk drill. need to investigate

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 10:44 (three months ago) Permalink

Ghetts' 'Know My Ting' was excellent from last year

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 10:45 (three months ago) Permalink

Can anyone do me a quick breakdown of the different sub-genres of the UK grime/afrobeats/bashment/swing/drill scene? If I didn't know better, I'd have lumped J Hus in with the grime scene, or a continuation of the grime scene at least, but it seems they're counted as quite separate

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 10:58 (three months ago) Permalink

Grime - Wiley, Stormzy, JME, Skepta etc. You know what this sounds like
Afrobeats - catch-all term for modern pop music from Africa at this stage but especially Ghana/Nigeria
UK drill - mostly what used to be called Road Rap - Giggs, Krept & Konan etc
Afrobashment - the newer stuff that takes in elements of all three, much younger artists and listeners involved on the whole - J Hus is the standard bearer but also Mostack/Kojo Funds/AbraCadabra etc. Some of this stuff has gone mainstream very quickly (eg Not3s 'Addison Lee', Yungen & Yxng Bane 'Bestie') to the extent that J Hus could be said to have genuinely changed the sound of British pop already

Matt DC, Friday, 2 February 2018 11:17 (three months ago) Permalink

Okay, makes more sense. I've heard J Hus be described as 'Afrobeats' and broke into a sweat. Afrobashment makes more sense, but yes I've heard a bit of these guys (Mostack etc) and it's definitely a THING isn't it? Looking at Spotify playlists it looks like there's a lot of crossover with afrobeats in Nigeria and dancehall in Jamaica, with collabs with Burna Boy, Alkaline etc

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 11:29 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah I mean some of those guys you mention play to like 100,000 people in Lagos and given that most of the UK artists are of African heritage they're obviously looking to get some of that exposure. Which is why I think the first international British rap superstar is likely to come from that scene rather than grime or UK rap. Someone like Hus makes a lot more sense in a market that's already used to Wizkid popping up all over the place whereas the language, slang etc of grime doesn't really translate.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 February 2018 11:34 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah it's exciting and maybe one of the first examples of a true pan-national genre emerging, or at least a 360 axis between US trap/UK grime/Nigerian Afrobeats/JA Dancehall all collaborating and putting their sounds into a melting pot. I'm not super taken with the UK afrobashment sound yet. I like J Hus's album but the rest is a bit samey from what I've heard. I will keep listening.

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 11:51 (three months ago) Permalink

maybe one of the first examples of a true pan-national genre emerging

I agree it's exciting but this is an insane statement to make.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 February 2018 11:56 (three months ago) Permalink

well, a new one that's forged across countries as opposed to started in one place and then adopted by others. maybe just talking out my bum

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 12:20 (three months ago) Permalink

the thing about all this stuff breaking now is I was going to club nights 5+ years ago that had all these elements in the mix: Afrobeats, dancehall, UKG etc and the basis of the sound was there

slouching towards depresslehem (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 February 2018 12:33 (three months ago) Permalink

it's gotta start somewhere and clubs is usually where it starts.

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 12:57 (three months ago) Permalink

this is a very good list and i am thrilled by the top 10. sad i didn't vote.

maura, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:27 (three months ago) Permalink

btw, I'd nominate Moka as a poll partner, but she may be way too busy.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, February 2, 2018 3:13 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Would endorse.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 February 2018 07:56 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thirded

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:55 (three months ago) Permalink

I never knew Moka was a she!

ArchCarrier, Friday, 2 February 2018 14:02 (three months ago) Permalink

Thanks, poll runners! I'll do my best to vote next year.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 February 2018 14:11 (three months ago) Permalink

Saturday night is when voting closes for The 2017 ILX Metal n' Heavy Rock Poll VOTING + CAMPAIGNING thread! Ballots due Saturday, Feb. 3rd!

please vote!

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Friday, 2 February 2018 16:12 (three months ago) Permalink

Hello there! I would love to help you out whatever you need as a poll partner. My line of work is sometimes very busy but I have several months I’m practically on vacation.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 February 2018 18:43 (three months ago) Permalink

I never knew Moka was a she!

― ArchCarrier

Yes! Feisty, spanish, girl iirc lol

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 February 2018 18:43 (three months ago) Permalink

you'd basically need to spend the 3rd or 4th week of the year preparing posts, bbcode, and images for the 77 albums, and then post them over the course of the 4th or 5th week of the year

gr8080, Friday, 2 February 2018 18:47 (three months ago) Permalink

I can work with that. I’m in.

In case you call on some thread and I’m not around to read it:

motelmoka (at) gmail.com

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:02 (three months ago) Permalink

i knew feisty and spanish; the onion has so many layers

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:03 (three months ago) Permalink

lol

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:06 (three months ago) Permalink

Yay Moka! She'll be great at this.

emil.y, Friday, 2 February 2018 20:12 (three months ago) Permalink

Love you emily

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 February 2018 21:57 (three months ago) Permalink

Ooh wow, looking forward to next year already!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 February 2018 22:17 (three months ago) Permalink

why wait? let's do it now.

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:03 (three months ago) Permalink

It's probably the only way the Tracey Thorn album would win.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:35 (three months ago) Permalink

octo octa album is incredible; she really has a touch for making quite maximal tracks smooth as ice

kolakube (Ross), Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:25 (three months ago) Permalink

It's probably the only way the Tracey Thorn album would win.
Seems unfair to have the poll before the Gaz Coombes album is out

groovypanda, Saturday, 3 February 2018 06:31 (three months ago) Permalink

NV:

I think I don't listen voraciously to enough new albums to be a viable music-poll voter.

This is p much exactly how I feel, but I talked myself into submitting a 13-album ballot shortly before the deadline, and am glad I did.

I think it's pretty crucial that partial and unranked ballots are allowed. I decided I was comfortable with submitting a ballot that in effect says "here are a few albums from 2017 I enjoyed"; a ranked ballot would feel uncomfortably like stating "this is the actual very best album of 2017".

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 3 February 2018 10:22 (three months ago) Permalink

(nb that is just how it would feel to me, I don't look at the ranked ballots of others as necessarily making grandiose claims or anything)

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 3 February 2018 10:24 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah I'm the same really. I tend to parasitically use the yearly polls to get recommendations of music to check out. I listened to the tracks Spotify playlist and there was quite a bit of stuff I wasn't aware of that I liked (e.g. I didn't even know Charlotte Gainsbourg was a musician) and downloaded some albums that looked intrsting from the albums poll.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 3 February 2018 11:27 (three months ago) Permalink

a friend of mine recently said he never heard anything from Stormzy that came close to the Shut Up freestyle, I was about to tell him he was wrong but then I couldn't really come up with as great a song from his catalogue

wonder if he'll ever top it

niels, Saturday, 3 February 2018 18:42 (three months ago) Permalink

bummed i didn't vote for BALSAMS by Chuck Johnson.

omar little, Monday, 5 February 2018 01:56 (three months ago) Permalink

what's the gif (by gr80?) that every was applauding?

flopson, Monday, 5 February 2018 02:34 (three months ago) Permalink

the image for the reveal of #1 and #2. If it's not working, right click the image and open it in a new tab (that's how i saw it)

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 5 February 2018 02:36 (three months ago) Permalink

bummed i didn't vote for BALSAMS by Chuck Johnson.

― omar little, Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:56 PM (yesterday)

my number one!

gr8080, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:38 (three months ago) Permalink

what's the gif (by gr80?) that every was applauding?

― flopson, Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:34 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

click this

gr8080, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:39 (three months ago) Permalink

xp my number 6!

works like a balm...

niels, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:00 (three months ago) Permalink

i probably read three whole books just to that album alone in 2017

gr8080, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:07 (three months ago) Permalink

fantastic stuff, I had no idea. glad you singled it out just now, right up my street.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:28 (three months ago) Permalink

xps- woahhh

flopson, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 00:11 (three months ago) Permalink


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