PALM my new favorite band

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saw them open for Girlpool a couple months ago and they completely blew me away. they opened with this song: https://soundcloud.com/carparkrecords/palm-composite
can't think of any other band formed in the last 5 years that's as exciting to me as Palm. extremely tight adventurous & bold art rock that reminds me of u.s. maple, deerhoof, don cab, talking heads, devo, ponytail, the usaisamonster, mid-era animal collective, & bitte orca, without being retro or entirely familiar at all. finally a band moving forward

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaWtA9e-2XM

new album Rock Island out next week on carpark
can't fucking wait

http://thefader-res.cloudinary.com/private_images/w_1440,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best/Palm_-_Rock_Island_-_Album_Art_tlnpcn/palm-rock-island-pearly-interview.jpg

flappy bird, Thursday, 1 February 2018 07:05 (one year ago) Permalink

thanks, I enjoyed watching the video of that radio show! look forward to hearing the album

Dan S, Thursday, 1 February 2018 07:35 (one year ago) Permalink

they really remind me of Mew

ufo, Thursday, 1 February 2018 08:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Palm is sick.

billstevejim, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:15 (one year ago) Permalink

new record is streaming: https://www.npr.org/2018/02/01/580633272/first-listen-palm-rock-island

flappy bird, Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Hmmyeah, will be avoiding this like the plague.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:38 (one year ago) Permalink

this is v cool, i don't have much occasion to listen to music like this these days but i would def see them live

sleepingbag, Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:50 (one year ago) Permalink

well, if you live in one of the following cities...

Feb 9, 2018 BROOKLYN, NY Market Hotel
Feb 16, 2018 BOSTON, MA Great Scott
Feb 18, 2018 PITTSBURGH, PA Club Cafe
Feb 19, 2018 DETROIT, MI Marble Bar
Feb 20, 2018 CHICAGO, IL Empty Bottle
Feb 21, 2018 MILWAUKEE, WI Cactus Club
Feb 22, 2018 MINNEAPOLIS, MN 7th Street Entry
Feb 23, 2018 MADISON, WI University of Wisconsin
Feb 24, 2018 GRINNELL, IA Grinnell College
Feb 26, 2018 DENVER, CO Lost Lake Lounge
Feb 27, 2018 SALT LAKE CITY, UT Kilby Court
Feb 28, 2018 BOISE, ID Neurolux
Mar 1, 2018 SEATTLE, WA Barboza
Mar 2, 2018 PORTLAND, OR Bunk Bar
Mar 5, 2018 RENO, NV Holland Project
Mar 6, 2018 SAN FRANCISCO, CA Rickshaw Stop
Mar 8, 2018 LOS ANGELES, CA Echoplex
Mar 9, 2018 SAN DIEGO, CA Space
Mar 10, 2018 PHOENIX, AZ Flying Burrito Fest
Mar 11, 2018 TUCSON, AZ Club Congress
Mar 13, 2018 DALLAS, TX Double Wide
Mar 14, 2018 AUSTIN, TX SXSW
Mar 15, 2018 AUSTIN, TX SXSW
Mar 16, 2018 AUSTIN, TX SXSW
Mar 17, 2018 AUSTIN, TX SXSW
Mar 19, 2018 BIRMINGHAM, AL The Firehouse
Mar 20, 2018 ATLANTA, GA 529
Mar 21, 2018 DURHAM, NC Pinhook
Mar 22, 2018 NORFOLK, VA Toast
Mar 23, 2018 RICHMOND, VA Stange Matter
Mar 24, 2018 WASHINGTON, DC Rock & Roll Hotel
Mar 26, 2018 PHILADELPHIA, PA First Unitarian Church
May 24, 2018 LONDON, UK Corsica Studios
May 26, 2018 BERLIN, DE Urban Spree
May 27, 2018 JENA, DE Glashaus
May 28, 2018 HAMBURG, DE Aalhaus
May 29, 2018 COLOGNE, DE Bumann & Sohn
Jun 6, 2018 BRUSSELS, BE Trône
Jun 7, 2018 LUXEMBOURG, LU Rotondes
Jun 9, 2018 BRISTOL, UK Louisiana
Jun 10, 2018 BIRMINGHAM, UK Hare and Hounds
Jun 11, 2018 MANCHESTER, UK Castle Hotel
Jun 12, 2018 GLASGOW, UK The Hug and Pint
Jun 13, 2018 LEEDS, UK Oporto

flappy bird, Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:02 (one year ago) Permalink

this rules. thanks for the tip

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 2 February 2018 21:46 (one year ago) Permalink

couldn't stand this, sorry

imago, Friday, 2 February 2018 22:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah very enthusiastic about them

KPH, Friday, 2 February 2018 22:30 (one year ago) Permalink

this is great

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 February 2018 22:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Kinda reminded me of early 2000s Of Montreal

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:03 (one year ago) Permalink

in that video at the top of the thread, they stop playing and the host starts talking about their intricate style, rhythmic aptitude, how their practices work - all stuff i would be interested in hearing about. but then he just never asks a question about any of that stuff and moves on to "did you record the Ep in Philly" and "how's the tour going?"

:(

alpine static, Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Would be fun to play in a band like this. Rehearsals would be cool.

Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:21 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZJlFIYV1Fs

flappy bird, Sunday, 4 February 2018 06:26 (one year ago) Permalink

p4k review maddeningly tepid. they gave it a 6.8 https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/palm-rock-island/

Similarly, Kurt will likely always sound a little like Avey Tare

accurate

(who, in turn, will always sound a little like Brian Wilson).

jesus christ why is this still a music crit crutch re: AC, neither of them sound anything like Brian Wilson

flappy bird, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:51 (one year ago) Permalink

the beach boys had an incredibly distinct vocal harmony sound, i don't think there's anything like it, the way they sang together and the blend of their voices

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:56 (one year ago) Permalink

right, so now anyone that uses multi-layered harmonies = sounds like the beach boys. this is a canard that has been parroted unchallenged for over a decade

flappy bird, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:58 (one year ago) Permalink

idk, on person pitch panda bear sounds like the dude who sang "sloop john b". a lot of that album sounds like a mirage of the verse of sloop john b

brimstead, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:01 (one year ago) Permalink

I've tried and honestly have just never heard the similarity, then again I saw the dress as white and gold and still do fwiw

flappy bird, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:03 (one year ago) Permalink

fwiw when this thread first appeared i went and listened to the first three or so album tracks and thought "sounds like ELO covering the beach boys"

budo jeru, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:07 (one year ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

I slept on this band all last year but I've had Rock Island and Shadow Expert on repeat the last few days. What a phenomenal, exciting band. The stuff they do with sound tickles all the right parts of my brain.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:18 (one month ago) Permalink

i really can't work out why this band pleases so many people in ways i can identify with, and yet the music utterly repulses me. it is a weird and unfortunate mystery and i think it must have something to do with their melodic choices

imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:26 (one month ago) Permalink

I quite liked their *sound* for a short time but there's little in the way of actual writing, all their tracks just putter along for a bit before unceremoniously ending

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 12 January 2019 19:50 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah i think it's the lack of variation, tunes or textural variety that gets me, comes off like irksome brash math-noodling with godawful tune-yardsy non-songwriting. the resultant limply hectic atmosphere may be enough for some of you (and the usually-imago-friendly max tundra, who called this his AOTY for some reason) but it falls on the wrong side of deeply infuriating for me and i struggle to see what new it brings to the table. it must be doing something right rhythmically - i guess i am quite resistant to bands whose shtick is polyrhythms - i wasn't convinced by horse lords at all, for instance - but this is like a sickly-sweet pop take on horse lords that accentuates everything i found unconvincing and ditches everything i found encouraging (for instance, horse lords at least develop their songs)

this sort of ogmor-on-mary-lattimore takedown is usually reserved for the 'dis hyped records' thread these days but i can't let palm be. my monumentally unpleasant take will doubtless deepen your collective determination to like this album but, as with julia holter, i can't let it lie as it's from a genre (experimental art-pop) that is supposedly my wheelhouse and yet each kudos it receives cuts into me like a personal affront

imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:48 (one month ago) Permalink

the resultant limply hectic atmosphere may be enough for some of you

this is why no one can stand you fyi

flopson, Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:51 (one month ago) Permalink

but fuck, i love polyrhythms in some contexts

*shrugs*

imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:51 (one month ago) Permalink

like who says shit like that? grow up

flopson, Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:51 (one month ago) Permalink

oh hi flopson. you're at least as big a cunt as i am fyi

imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:52 (one month ago) Permalink

I think Horse Lords bother me more because it's such a waste of a good band name when they're the musical equivalent of trying to eat like ten dry crackers at once

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:11 (one month ago) Permalink

everyone on this board is an intolerable elitist just roll w/it xp flopson

(ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:12 (one month ago) Permalink

for the record i don't _hate_ imago - he's good at championing a lot of music i like - but the aggrievedness, going on at length about not just a band but the absolute personal affront to music represented by anybody who likes said bands - yeah i definitely eyeroll about that.

being passionate about the music you like is a good thing. being as passionate about the music you hate is not.

Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:20 (one month ago) Permalink

this way we get everything out in the open and work through our issues. this will 75% end up with me loving palm in 2023

imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:22 (one month ago) Permalink

25% flopson and i meet to duel

imago, Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:22 (one month ago) Permalink

this way we get everything out in the open and work through our issues. this will 75% end up with me loving palm in 2023

― imago

but there's nothing here that needs to be "out in the open", you don't like palm, that's fine, i honestly don't give a shit about how you feel about them, i just wish you wouldn't go around to the palm thread and drop these lengthy rants about how much you hate them, jesus that's what rym is for.

Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:36 (one month ago) Permalink

If I'd known I'd spark an argument I would've help my trap shut.

(I like Horse Lords, too.)

*ducks*

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 13 January 2019 12:11 (one month ago) Permalink

Kept not help. Sunday, eh?

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 13 January 2019 12:12 (one month ago) Permalink

you didn't spark an argument, macdara, imago is always like this

Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 January 2019 15:31 (one month ago) Permalink

yet each kudos it receives cuts into me like a personal affront

― imago, Saturday, January 12, 2019 1:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you really need to stop taking other people liking things personally

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 13 January 2019 15:33 (one month ago) Permalink

I kind of appreciate that imago gets that invested in rock aesthetics and I do think he is coming from a place of wanting to challenge, engage, and appreciate. I'm loving this myself, though. Might try to explain later.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 January 2019 15:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Imago my man you know I got love for you but it never fails to crack me up when you get on your speak truth to power schtick as if you're standing up to the cultural hegemony of, say, the Beatles except it's always a band like Horse Lords who literally only like 20k nerds like us on the entire planet even know who they are....as if a man can't go down to the pub for a pint without some bloke jabbering on about Horse Lords

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 January 2019 16:23 (one month ago) Permalink

I want to go to the Horse Lords pub

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:07 (one month ago) Permalink

they only have a horse lords night once a month, the rest of the time it's all "dondestan"

"I kind of appreciate that imago gets that invested in rock aesthetics and I do think he is coming from a place of wanting to challenge, engage, and appreciate. I'm loving this myself, though. Might try to explain later.

― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r)"

it comes off to me as being in the grand tradition of the dave marsh school of criticism. i don't have any particular objection to dave marsh but i find his writing more valuable when he's talking about his favorite rock and roll records of 1962 than when he's attempting to review sparks records

Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Tbf imago hating Palm is more like Marsh working out why he doesn't like a 60s soul record when he lives for Marvin Gaye as opposed to Marsh bullshitting about latent fascism in every 70s prog record.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 January 2019 18:55 (one month ago) Permalink

macdara you certainly didn't spark an argument, i was just being an asshole

sund4r why do u like this then, what are some ways in

imago, Sunday, 13 January 2019 20:51 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm down with imago's takedowns fwiw

being passionate about the music you like is a good thing. being as passionate about the music you hate is not.

― Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Saturday, January 12, 2019 4:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if you don't hate anything, you don't love anything

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:15 (one month ago) Permalink

But there's nothing won't with a little filtering either. Unilateral negativity does tend to make the thread more about the poster than about the music.

enochroot, Sunday, 13 January 2019 23:27 (one month ago) Permalink

if you don't hate anything, you don't love anything

― Paul Ponzi

great words of wisdom. similarly, can one _really_ call oneself a pacifist unless one's killed something?

Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 00:44 (one month ago) Permalink

i enjoyed imago’s post.

i mean god forbid somebody expresses an opinion on something they can’t quite get into. the post was thoughtful i thought, and i def don’t get the condescending vibes some ppl are picking up on here.

also sund4r otm re: marsh.

also let’s be kind to each other please, imago’s post was sincere and coming from a place of love i think

budo jeru, Monday, 14 January 2019 02:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Imago, I'm trying to articulate it on a couple of listens. I was almost guaranteed to like something that got compared to both Mew and Horse Lords. I think a lot has to do with the way the tempo changes and stops and starts can feel almost viscerally jarring while the gentle, melodic vocal lines almost work like a balm. The guitar sound (with chorus, harmonizer, and short delay, I think, playing these mid to high-register staccato figures, with angular melodic choices) is really distinct and has similar sweet/jarring quality. They don't give you the kind of satisfaction in terms of formal development of songwriting that Mew do: they're doing something more aphoristic, like Wire did maybe?(Probably This Heat too but I don't know them well enough.)

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 14 January 2019 03:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Obv remains to be seen whether it stands the test of time but it is grabbing me rn.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 14 January 2019 03:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Tbf imago hating Palm is more like Marsh working out why he doesn't like a 60s soul record when he lives for Marvin Gaye as opposed to Marsh bullshitting about latent fascism in every 70s prog record.

― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r)

i can accept that, but there's still no actual answer there. god knows i've spent plenty of fruitless time trying to figure out systematically why i like some things and don't like others, because it would save me a lot of effort listening to music i wind up not liking. there's no answer there. a large percentage of music is music i don't particularly like, which doesn't make it bad, which doesn't make other people wrong for liking it. there are so many other things for me to be upset, offended, and enraged by that hating music, most of the time, just seems like a fucking waste.

Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 11:48 (one month ago) Permalink

TS: getting riled up from hating music vs. getting riled up by other people hating music

dorsalstop, Monday, 14 January 2019 12:24 (one month ago) Permalink

it's a fair cop, i've been extremely cranky and irritable ever since i gave up on arguing politics and i'm definitely taking out my repressed hostility on this thread

Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Monday, 14 January 2019 12:29 (one month ago) Permalink

been feeling a bit ashamed because the bit flopson picked on really was a little too much

imago, Monday, 14 January 2019 12:30 (one month ago) Permalink

I can kinda get imago's qualms. I have seen this band live twice and was utterly entranced both times, but when I try to listen to their records, I get bored. They are really good at building tension through repetition, and the tension seems to come across with much more power in a live setting.

days of being riled (zchyrs), Monday, 14 January 2019 16:42 (one month ago) Permalink

xp no it wasn't. good lord. i like palm (i think i started this thread) but i enjoyed imago's post. good points, thoughtful examination trying to work out why they don't like palm or horse lords. it's interesting. imago is not turrican. come on everyone

flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:43 (one month ago) Permalink

tbh i am also weary of polyrhythmic rock bands on record, and i much prefer palm & horse lords live (though i think they've made great records - i just don't find myself reaching for them very often. unlike Don Cab)

flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:45 (one month ago) Permalink

but maybe if i was around... wherever tf don cab were from and was able to see them dozens of times i'd feel differently

flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:45 (one month ago) Permalink

some of you are being way too reasonable to me haha, I should have toned my post way down while still examining my misgivings

imago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:46 (one month ago) Permalink

I can certainly imagine this lot being quite the force as a live band

imago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:47 (one month ago) Permalink

what's to tone down? god forbid someone disagrees or tries to figure out why they hate a band you like... honestly perplexed at reaction to your post.

flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:54 (one month ago) Permalink


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