"The Sound They Make At Night" - GROUPER - A|A (Dream Loss / Alien Observer) POLL

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at a loss for words. overwhelming, palliative, beyond categorization. an album i've listened to far more than almost all others. a peek into in-between worlds, into death. music that makes time stand still, music that holds my hand into the abyss. the songs on her records may blend together a bit for most people, and my favorite song changes frequently. i'm pretty burned out on alien observer, but dream loss has really been hitting the spot lately. right now i'd say 'atone,' so evocative and mesmerizing and of another place so familiar yet still inaccessible. this album will never leave my life.

Poll Results

Alien Observer 6
Come Softly 4
Vapor Trails 4
Moon is Sharp 4
Dragging the Streets 1
No Other 1
Atone 1
I Saw a Ray 1
Wind Return 0
Soul Eraser 0
She Loves Me That Way 0
Mary on the Wall 0
A Lie 0

flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 07:54 (eight months ago) Permalink


josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 3 February 2018 08:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

"Vapor Trails" has always been my favorite, tho I didn't vote for it this time, it's definitely a more accomplished and expansive piece than "Atone." The first side of Alien Observer is in my bones.

flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 21:15 (eight months ago) Permalink

I love both albums but I have *no idea* what the songs are called. For some reason this happens more often w/ me and Grouper.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 3 February 2018 22:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

there are maybe five Grouper songs I know the title of and none of them are on these albums but I still love them

ufo, Saturday, 3 February 2018 23:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

The songs on Alien Observer are much more traditionally structured & founded on recognizable melodic motifs & phrases, whereas the songs on Dream Loss are a little more amorphous & harder to grasp, although “A Lie” breaks that trend & works as a perfect transition into Alien Observer.

flappy bird, Sunday, 4 February 2018 00:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

this write-up of a 2009 show is really obnoxious but it does contain maybe the best description of A|A era Grouper I've ever come across: "4am in the middle of fucking nowhere."


flappy bird, Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

voted come softly bc it is v lovely and kind but i mean these are all my children m/l

Clay, Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

gonna take a spaceship...

J. Sam, Saturday, 10 February 2018 03:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

My boy, for years, woke frequently in the night; I'd go in and lie with him while he (slowly, very slowly) found his way back to the safety of sleep. This was often what I listened to. She's the soundtrack to those threshold consciousness states for me. A mystic of the night's narrow hours. I'm with Bateau in that I have no idea what the songs are called.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 10 February 2018 11:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

The AIA records taught me something fundamentally new about music. Don't make me choose.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Saturday, 10 February 2018 12:27 (eight months ago) Permalink

but you must

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 February 2018 17:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

imo Dragging a Dead Deer up a Hill is still her masterpiece though. It has more of a human touch to all of its songs, which I guess i prefer over AIA's otherworldliness (it's still amazing though)

josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 10 February 2018 21:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

also I didn't vote for it but props to anyone who votes for the devastatingly quiet Come Softly

josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 10 February 2018 21:27 (eight months ago) Permalink

Come Softly

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

dream loss helped temporarily suspend a bad mood swing last night, so thanks grouper

my vote's for "no other," which is pure suspension

lowercase (eric), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

that and "wind return" are the only tracks on A|A that are still formless and unrecognizable to me- I couldn't recall a melody for those, unlike all the others. but that took a looong time

flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

i haaate to do this but the best thing i ever read on "moon is sharp" was from piero scaruffi, who described it as "a slow-motion remix of Enya fronting the Cowboy Junkies in a cover of Blue Moon." still my favorite grouper track to just immerse myself in

austinb, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

wow i totally forgot piero scaruffi was a thing

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

lol you're not missing much

austinb, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 02:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

Don't remember where I read it (maybe a Paul Clipson obit), but Liz Harris curated or was part of some festival a few years ago where she played a programmed an evening of other media, anyway the movie she picked to show was Krzysztof Kieślowski's The Double Life of Véronique. I finally watched it tonight & even more than the Three Colors trilogy this was so close & so evocative of Grouper and this album in particular.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 06:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Devastating version of 'I Saw a Ray' at the end of this live set from last fall: https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?visual=true&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Fplaylists%2F460766655&show_artwork=true&dnt=1&secret_token=s-tHR28

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 March 2018 01:08 (seven months ago) Permalink

I've been waiting

for you to

come gently

to me

flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 06:24 (seven months ago) Permalink


flappy bird, Saturday, 24 March 2018 06:19 (six months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 1 April 2018 00:01 (six months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 2 April 2018 00:01 (six months ago) Permalink

all i am i am is a lie

flappy bird, Monday, 2 April 2018 01:46 (six months ago) Permalink

As feels appropriate for Grouper, I have only a vague feeling that I participated in this poll but I can’t recall if I did, or what I voted for.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 2 April 2018 15:18 (six months ago) Permalink

love these but I like the mirroring record a bit more, love the clarity in the recording and how their voices work together. it’s structured just like alien observer, almost feels like a do-over for that record kinda

sciatica, Monday, 2 April 2018 15:36 (six months ago) Permalink

I ended up voting for Come Softly but I still don't really feel like I know any of these as individual tracks very well

ufo, Monday, 2 April 2018 16:07 (six months ago) Permalink

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