Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

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Doctor Casino I feel this

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

Gish IS Vig-era!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link

the other version of Atom Bomb was a Machina b-side

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

Sund4r this is the greatest hits version, which has always seemed like the wrong version to my ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUklMu7H3I

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

Bolded ones are the ones that placed in the top 66.

Here's to the Atom Bomb (New Wave)
<b>Zero</b>
<b>Rhinoceros</b>
<b> Appels + Oranjes </b>
<b> Pug </b>
<b> Wound </b>
Jupiter's Lament
<b> Galapagos </b>
The Imploding Voice
Crestfallen
<b> Spaceboy </b>
<b> Beautiful </b>
<b> Bullet with Butterfly Wings </b>
<b> For Martha </b>
<b> Glass and the Ghost Children </b>
<b> Today </b>
Landslide
Tarantula
Jellybelly
Try, Try, Try
Let Me Give The World to You
The Everlasting Gaze
Dross
Medellia of the Gray Skies
The Pistachio Medley

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

Man, I can't do HTML to save my life

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

lol duh oops abt Vig. sub "SD era"

came close to this being my first ILM poll where my entire ballot placed. "This Time" at #25 (73 in the results) was the exception. "Rocket," my #1 made it to 13, and all of my top ten made the top twenty except for "Muzzle" which I had at #2 and "Where Boys Fear To Tread," my #5.

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

your HTML is fine but sadly ILX uses bbcode (trust that button next to "Submit Post" on desktop)

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

and let me also join the chorus praising the rollout graphics and typesetting.

Oh yeah this as well! Always really liked the band's choice of similar-but-different fonts across the SD/MCIS/Adore art so was really happy to see them being used on the rollout images.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Luna
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Galapagos
Meladori Magpie
Rotten Apples
Blank Page

1979
I of the Mourning
Snail
Jellybelly
Here is No Why
Hummer
X.Y.U.
Thirty-three
Rocket
Beautiful
Today
Cherub Rock
Vanity
If There is a God

Tales of a Scorched Earth
Hello Kitty Kat
Marquis in Spades
Wound

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

My list, bold didn't place:

Mayonaise
Thirty-Three
Whir
To Forgive
Perfect
Starla
Soma
Spaceboy
1979
Medellia of the Gray Skies
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Stand Inside Your Love
This Time
Tonight, Tonight
Cherub Rock
Galapagos
Luna
Pulseczar
The Imploding Voice
Silverfuck
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Cupid de Locke
Daydream
Bury Me
X.Y.U.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

84 Fuck You (An Ode To No One) 58 3 0
100 Landslide 34 4 0
120 The Everlasting Gaze 8 1 0

sadly not the locks on the top tier that some thought. who on earth voted for "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning"?!

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

no one else voted for Blank Page?

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

I like the cover of "Landslide" fine but that would have been a hilarious pick for a top 10 entry.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

Blank Page was 45

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link

blank page placed flappy

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link

Oh shit lol my b

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

Dang i must’ve missed that round

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

i even posted the live video in your absence

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

Ha, I actually prefer the GH version of "Atom Bomb".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

The GH version isn't horrible - it's probably just that thing about preferring the first version I heard of a song.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

i even posted the live video in your absence


thank you

blank page i think has his most beautiful singing on it of any pumpkins recordings

flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link

Whoa, that was a near-perfect Top 10. Only problem I have with it is 'For Martha' isn't in it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

To elaborate: the M2 version of "Bomb" feels like some heartsick, washed out, electronic end-of-the-world. It's as far removed from the band's beginnings as possible; it's barely human except for the singing, super programmed, cybernetic, weird. So when Corgan's voice cuts out at the end there it's as though he's been deleted, and the vocal or lack thereof becomes the gap he's been singing about for the length of that song (though the song itself seems to be about Corgan himself, or the persona he put forth, and being older but still kind of being the same outsider figure, etc). It's a quietly devastating ending to this song.

The GH version has this sunny, twangy guitar that lends it feel that's totally different and somehow less sad and final.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link

He's been deleted, or he's deleted himself - that's another way to think about it. This is probably the only Pumpkins song I've spent time overthinking this way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwWcO_oLLCM

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link

i associate "atom bomb" strongly with kid a and amnesiac-era radiohead bc i was listening to both a lot at the time so i definitely understand the "lead singer erasing himself" vibe you get from it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

Interesting angle - I wonder if Corgan was/is a Radiohead fan?

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

suspect he liked the records but hated their success. critics always putting him in the back.

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

Made a playlist of my ballot, which I think will be a v enjoyable way to listen to this band: https://open.spotify.com/user/1297256761/playlist/6EaySAiougJgnxwZdXSaiQ?si=UpkfjWPRT0OLWa92NJ7zDQ

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

think the only song i don't like in the complete results is the "dreaming" cover

Sorry, Brad.

1979
Zero
Galapogos
Thirty-Three
Muzzle
Tonight, Tonight
Once Upon a Time
Dreaming
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Cupid de Locke
Try Try Try
Here Is No Why
Jellybelly
Rocket
Clones (We're All)

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link

it's ok i just don't think the arrangement adds anything to the song. good ballot!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link

Thanks!

It's a radical enough transformation that I feel that it and the original come off as different songs, which happens far less often with covers than it should.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

true enough xp

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

oh what's everyone's favorite sp cover. i hate most of them but wow do i love their "never let me down again"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

As an aside, the other cover I voted for ("Clones") is one where I had never actually heard the original until very recently. I was surprised how faithful the Pumpkins version turned out to be. Never expected something so New Wavey from Alice Cooper!

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

I like "Girl Named Sandoz" but tbf I think I only know the two on PI + Corgan's version of "To Love Somebody". xp

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

the "dancing in the moonlight" cover was also the first thing i encountered that suggested thin lizzy had innumerable jams beyond "the boys are back in town." good choice and pretty faithful iirc

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

I like all of the covers on Aeroplane well enough, minus "My Blue Heaven," which is such an ill-advised mismatch of song and performer that it comes off as genuinely unpleasant, to me.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

Dreaming is my favorite cover of theirs. Had I woken up earlier I would've posted a fake #1/#2 entry for Jackie Blue/You're All I've Got Tonight

Fetchboy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link

the Landslide cover is classic obviously. Never Let Me Down is the best from Aeroplane. as far as live covers go the Space Oddity one they were doing a few years back was solid

I thought about doing a fake entry for United States in the top 10 but didn't have time to make an image for it

ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

'Never Let Me Down Again' is a great version which even got the seal of approval from Depeche Mode themselves. Their cover of 'A Night Like This', on the other hand, is fucking shocking.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

Should we have a separate covers poll?

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

Mayonaise
Stand Inside Your Love
1979
For Martha
Set the Ray to Jerry
Here Is No Why
Perfect
Soma
Behold! The Night Mare
Galapagos
Pug
Thirty-Three
Blank Page
Tonight, Tonight
Muzzle
Blew Away
Real Love
Geek USA
Hummer
Cherub Rock
Bury Me
I Of the Mourning
Go
Wound
Medelia of the Grey Skies

Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

Siva
I Am One
Drown
1979
Silverfuck
Rhinoceros
Bury Me
Starla
Eye
Frail & Bedazzled
Perfect
Set the Ray to Jerry
Rocket
Pissant*
Quiet
Suffer
Whir
Tristessa*
Hello Kitty Kat
Snail
Window Paine*
Soma
Landslide*
Mayonaise (sic)
Obscured

Obviously I’m a “I like their earlier stuff better” dummy (probably because I got Gish when it came out and it was the torpid meandering summer after high school and I played that mysterious cassette over and over until it disintegrated) but this rollout got me listening to the whole catalog again and finding all sorts of gems I’d slept on all these years. Thanks!

orifex, Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link

1. Hummer
2. Set the Ray to Jerry
3. Muzzle
4. In The Arms of Sleep
5. Blank Page
6. Frail and Bedazzled
7. By Starlight
8. Soothe
9. Appels + Oranjes
10. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
11. Farewell and Goodnight
12. Suffer
13. Starla
14. Glynis
15. Here Is No Why
16. 1979
17. Drown
18. For Martha
19. Love
20. Pennies
21. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
22. Obscured
23. Whir
24. Soma
25. Annie Dog

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 8 April 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link

Beautiful
Farewell And Goodnight
Shame
Tear
1979
Eye
Set The Ray To Jerry
Love
We Only Come Out At Night
The Boy
Through the Eyes of Ruby
Take Me Down
Daphne Descends
Believe
Apples & Oranjes
Blew Away
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Blank Page
Muzzle
Perfect
Galapagos
Pug
By Starlight
Bodies
Bugg Superstar

Didn't think I'd submit a ballot until the last day or so, and whether I'd submit a 2.5 song ballot or an all-James ballot, but ... eh. Always wish the Neu!-ish opening of "Cherub Rock" had breathed for a little longer ... flappy, I guess you're the person who'd know if there's a demo/live version around which does that? Glad "... Jerry" placed as high as it did!

etc, Sunday, 8 April 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link

I had:

01. (09) Starla - Gish Rarity
02. (01) Mayonaise - SD
03. (44) Glynis - SD Rarity
04. (19) Obscured - SD Rarity
05. (03) Drown - Gish Rarity
06. (04) Hummer - SD
07. (25) Whir - SD Rarity
08. (11) Set The Ray to Jerry - MCIS Rarity
09. (29) Snail - Gish
10. (05) Soma - SD
11. (24) Silverfuck - SD
12. (06) Cherub Rock - SD
13. (13) Rocket - SD
14. (59) Suffer - Gish
15. (27) Frail and Bedazzled - SD Rarity
16. (72) Tristessa - Gish
17. (18) Geek U.S.A. - SD
18. (30) Hello Kitty Kat - SD Rarity
19. (14) Today - SD
20. (102) Cherry - MCIS Rarity
21. (36) Quiet - SD
22. (67) Blew Away - SD Rarity
23. (81) Mouths of Babes - MCIS Rarity
24. (08) Rhinoceros - Gish
25. (126) Purr Snickety - SD Rarity

Soundslike, Sunday, 8 April 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

Was just sent this tweet from ex-ILXor (unless he's been posting under a new DN) N4te P4trin by my brother-in-law:

you either die a Cobain or you live long enough to see yourself become the Corgan

— Nate Patrin (@natepatrin) March 15, 2018

etc, Sunday, 8 April 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

beautiful

Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link


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