Beats Working For A Living - Sheffield Popular Music 1973-1984

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To mark the appearance of The Comsat Angels and Leeds bands threads being bumped, here is a poll of the free CD with Martin Lilleker's book chronicling the Sheffield scene of the late 70s and early 80s which also produced The Human League, Heaven 17, ABC, Cabaret Voltaire and later on Artery, Chakk, Clock DVA, Pulp, FON/Warp Records, etc.

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Beats-Working-For-A-Living-Rare-Forgotten-Demos-73-84/release/979990

This is a brilliant CD, if you can get your hands on it. If not, I put some tracks on this mix.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
They Must Be Russians - Don't Try To Cure Yourself 3
The Comsat Angels - Independence Day (Demo) 3
Artery - Into The Garden 1
In The Nursery - Witness To A Scream 1
Artery - Afterwards 1
Pulp - Death Comes To Town (FON Demo) 1
Vice Versa - New Girls / Neutrons 0
The Box - Big Slam 0
Dig Vis Drill - Fix The Kitchen 0
Stunt Kites - Home Sweet Home 0
I'm So Hollow - Touch 0
Graph - March Of The One State 0
Chakk - Out Of The Flesh (Demo) 0
The Extras - Playback 0
I'm So Hollow - The Triangular Hour 0
The Negatives - Money Talk 0
2.3 - All Time Low 0
The Past 7 Days - Raindance 0
Disease - Psychobin 0
Mau-Maus - Running With The Pack 0
Vena Cava - A Girlfriend Is. 0
Hula - Freeze Out (Club Mix) 0


mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link

Had no idea Comsat Angels were from Sheffield.

Anyway, gotta go with Afterwards, mainly because of this performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HummmFD3bjk

enochroot, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

Oops wrong link. Here's the Artery video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlR6POiqU9U

enochroot, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

HOLY SHIT I NEED THIS COMPILATION YESTERDAY

mfktz is my new favorite poster. sorry gerald, mcb.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

Apparently you can still buy it (with the book):
http://www.sheffieldvision.com/shop.php

enochroot, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

damn son where’s you find this

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

where’d

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

I only know about 7 or 8 of these but find it hard to imagine there could be a better song here than Don't Try To Cure Yourself.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

I found this when I was researching a blog about Pulp, the book is astonishingly detailed and covers more bands than you could imagine, including some famous ones (Def Leppard, Thompson Twins) who weren't part of the scene as such, best thing you could hope for when researching a scene. Martin Lilleker died in 2016 aged 62, he had another book about the years 1955-75, just wish he had lived to write another one about the late 80s / early 90s with FON/Warp etc.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

The more famous Sheffield compilation is Bouquet of Steel from 1980, it's a bit patchy though, came along a year or two too late.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

Anyway, here are a few things people might not have heard.

* 2.3 with All Time Low, an early post-punk act who only ever released this one single
* The Extras, a kind of pub rock Roxy Music, who were huge stars in the scene but never put out a single release before breaking up in 1979
* Artery, a huge name in the city, I have to vote for Into The Garden as it's one of my favourite pieces of music of all time, my challops maybe is that they were better than Joy Division, at least on the first LP.

And I just found some kind soul has put up the whole CD on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/YP0WgTNlpOU

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link

Let's try that again shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP0WgTNlpOU

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

mfktz is my new favorite poster. sorry gerald, mcb.

Oh, I see how it is. You look at every poll of obscure post-punk compilations while I wait on other threads...

Voted Comsat Angels, of course, but there's lots of good stuff here:
Love that They Must Be Russians track (which I first heard an an incredible post-punk rarity comp called '7" Up')
I have a good 2.3 single on the "Fast Product" compilation
Vice Versa, who were not very good, became ABC, who were for a while
Pulp were never my thing though they had their moments
The Past 7 Days single, all they ever did, is fantastic
In The Nursery I liked when they first appeared but their shtick got old quickly
Artery have a few tracks I dig but nothing more
I'm So Hollow were on another great obscuro comp "Hicks From The Sticks".

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

The Pulp track is an odd one as it's from late 1987, which is very much not 1973-1984, and it might sound familiar as a (IMO much superior) remix of it called Death Goes To The Disco was eventually used as the b-side of Countdown and was on various shoddy compilations put out by Fire in the 90s, also the sequel to it, Death II, was on Separations, and Death III was the working title of Countdown. Owen Hatherley wrote this about it:

“Listened to casually… …the song seemed to be matter of vengeful copulation, taken to the point of ridiculousness, much as you’d hear in a Different Class song like ‘Pencil Skirt’. It takes place in a similar space, as our protagonist ‘stalks these yellow-lit cul-de-sacs at night’, but – as you realise on third or fourth listen – the protagonist is death himself, and when he’s ‘taking’ all these people, he’s not showing them a good time. ‘I want your body and I want your soul’, he cries, but this revenge fantasy is more Carrie than Room At The Top”

Basically it doesn't fit on the compilation at all and I won't vote for it, but this was the first time it had been released, so Pulp people were a little excited to finally hear it - 'Rattlesnake' from the same session has since emerged, that's the real lost classic.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

Wish somebody'd compile the box material together in one place. Saw them a few times in the early mid 80s. Not sure if i knew about Clock Dva beforehand and i think they're basically the Thirst line up minus Adi Newton.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link

I bitterly regret selling all my Box records. I saw them one time too, maybe supporting Shriekback???

stirmonster, Thursday, 25 April 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link


Oh, I see how it is. You look at every poll of obscure post-punk compilations while I wait on other threads...

hey man, revive an adrian borland or romeo void topic and the championship belt is yours once again!

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

Listening to this comp in full really gives me an appreciation for the depth of the back bench in Sheffield during that era. Scenius!

That said, a lot of these bands are wearing their influences pretty flagrantly on their sleeve:

  • The Box -> The Birthday Party
  • Chakk -> Simple Minds
  • Dig vs Drill -> The Stranglers
  • 2.3 -> The Sound
  • Artery - Afterwards -> JD - She's Lost Control
(i'm awaiting the replies telling me which of those examples gets the chronology backwards)

enochroot, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

Also, that Pulp song does really stand out from the rest -- like Jarvis wore a day-glo jumpsuit to the goth club.

enochroot, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

Book arrived: It's big!

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

(i'm awaiting the replies telling me which of those examples gets the chronology backwards)

2.3 released their single in 1978, a year before The Sound formed.

Interesting to say that Chakk sound like Simple Minds, guess the singer does a bit? One of those groups I like more for being important in various ways than for their actual music most of the time.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

I was specifically thinking of 'Empires and Dance' era Simple Minds.

Mark G, check back in and let us know if the book is worth reading.

enochroot, Thursday, 2 May 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link

At first look, it's pretty comprehensive yes.

Mark G, Thursday, 2 May 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link

Well, "comprehensive" doesn't always make for an engaging read...
I just abandoned the 4AD book (Facing the Other Way) because it was so meticulously comprehensive, it felt like I was just reading Ivo Watts-Russell's journal.

enochroot, Thursday, 2 May 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

What's the other 4AD book? That were good.. And I'm not a 4AD fan by any chalkm

Mark G, Thursday, 2 May 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

I'll get onto it (the book) at some point, but I've got Mark S's book to finish, and the KLF novel next up, and I really should finish that Patti Smith one but it's mmm dull...

Mark G, Thursday, 2 May 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 4 May 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 5 May 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

Would have chucked Chakk a vote but I guess like most people I'm not familiar enough with a lot of these.

Out Of The Flesh is good (the demo doesn't sound all that different to the released version, if at all) but they rather lost their edge after signing to a major record label.

I remember seeing a video for OOTF on TV, was it on The Chart Show?

Armand Frippanino (Noel Emits), Sunday, 5 May 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link

Possibly you saw this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YKRHqxvrOY

Chakk's LP was half a decade in the works and is barely worth listening to, however they did build FON studios in Sheffield during the process, which led to House Arrest, Forgemasters, Warp Records and is generally massively important for UK electronic music.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 5 May 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link


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