Morrissey is a racist

See above.

who?

Morrissey

not ringing any bells

https://i.imgur.com/6pzFKLv.jpg

i still enjoy the music of morrissey and feel conflicted. has ilx ever discussed this sort of moral dilemma before?

no

he was in that one band, kind of like a goth Aztec Camers

Yes, he definitely is.

Bill Morrissey, as he is known professionally, is one of New England’s best singer-songwriters.

http://home.bt.com/images/terry-wogan-at-eurovision-136404222879110401-160223153133.jpg

thank you jim, you are the hero of ilx

I think he was Johnny marrs singer, aka the guy who played guitar for the the. I guess he had a band before that

Johnny Mars from Modest Mouse?

No, Johnny Mars from Motley Crue, iirc.

Great, You caught one.

Like shooting f ish in a oxygen bar,
re a lly.

Long Tim Jonze article in Guardian today

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/30/bigmouth-strikes-again-morrissey-songs-loneliness-shyness-misfits-far-right-party-tonight-show-jimmy-fallon

the url gives me the gist

Every time this happens there’s always a dozen articles with the title “bigmouth strikes again”, if only the smiths had done a song called “very stupid cunt keeps shitting himself let’s talk about it”

I'd gladly read that Tim Jonze long read if he was offering a $1 per word.

“the morrissey you, the further away i get”

xxxp it does. the article is 90% rehashing, but includes bits from a couple of interviews with Asian artists, also interesting to see how he has tried to manage all of this using lawyers but appears to have given up.

Around the time he sued NME, Morrissey forced the Word magazine into an apology over a review that said he was “paying lip service to anti-racism while talking like an old Tory immigration spokesman”

Why in the world would they apologize for that basic statement of fact

Because libel law in the UK is ridiculous and Morrissey likes to have his lawyers send out threatening letters and as far as editors are concerned it isn't worth the hassle?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/30/bigmouth-strikes-again-morrissey-songs-loneliness-shyness-misfits-far-right-party-tonight-show-jimmy-fallon

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, May 30, 2019 8:07 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am just so glad that Morrissey isn't doing Misfits covers.

Because libel law in the UK is ridiculous and Morrissey likes to have his lawyers send out threatening letters and as far as editors are concerned it isn't worth the hassle?

Obviously! Although the statement was about as inarguable as "Morrissey has hair."

why is it always the worst ones who have hair?

Wow at the idea that what's being criticized about "Bengali in Platforms" is its "tone."

very stupid (la-di-da da-da)
very stupid (la-di-di-daaa)

wins, I think this could work

why is it always the worst ones who have hair?

Moz pretty clearly tolerates a certain amount of immigration to his scalp.

Irish Hair, English Arsehole

Yes, but was he a racist?

Was, is, and ever shall be

The past is a different country, but Morrissey is still racist there.

I just feel bad for all the people who named their cats Steven Meowrissey

He has tweeted someone's blog post in defense of himself. It's all about veganism and shaking things up, you idiots:

In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection. He has long expressed how he is tired of the same two political groups running the game again and again, he wants to see a shake up in politics, as many of us do. Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds).

It goes on.

https://www.tremr.com/Fiona-Dodwell/the-guardian-and-the-morrissey-vendetta

“racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

Any actual Muslims support this non-racist, non-Islamophoboc party?

so wait, morrissey's argument here is literally "hitler was a vegetarian"?

what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?

Hitler was a lesbian.

Some guy named 4chan said Hitler did nothing wrong.

Also, can we start a new thread titled 'Morrissey is a fascist'?

He could say Hitler was right to kill the Jews and legions of his fans would defend him and claim he's misunderstood.

... and that's no joke btw.

ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it

what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?

Charming man

TS: Steven Patrick Morrissey vs Mikko Aspa

Godwin himself approves a common sense exception to invoking his law when ppl are discussing actual confirmed white supremacists tbfttl

By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.

— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017

so pleased to finally meet you Mike...I've invoked your name countless times on message borads over the decades....

... sounds like late period Beckett.

Try again. Fail again. Bulbous Salutation.

local charity shop had 3 copies of his penguin classics (wtf) book appear next to each other on the shelf within a few days of the britain first thing. wonder if they ever sold them

sorry it was "for britain" wasn't it

I wonder if Elon Musk will let Morrissey back on Twitter

He was always a Facebook guy. Just checked and figured he would still be there, but...no?

Maybe he's died?

Check the Rolling Obituaries thread.

He did die but is still alive

He should have died in about 1990.

would you kill baby morrissey

No, the world would be a poorer place without "Some Girls Are Bigger than Others."

He should have died in about 1990.

I'd say 2005ish. While I'm at it, Kanye should've died in 2010 after releasing My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.

I'd gladly forgo the solo material to avoid the descent into racism and self-parody.

is it bad for baby morrissey to see you masturbating?

his lyrics and mouth seem at odds
"In America
The land of the free, they said
And of opportunity
In a just and a truthful way
But where the president, is never black, female or gay,
And until that day
You've got nothing to say to me
To help me believe"

Imagine your girlfriend waking up from a coma and seeing this. pic.twitter.com/9qsuLMkXVO

— David Weigel (@daveweigel) November 4, 2022

I know it's over.

1990

MorriSSey

the morrissey, the less i want

and if a ten ton truck
crashes into us
to die by your side
I'd be amazed if the driver was white

Morrissey looking like Rollins in that shot...

Has it been confirmed that the tickets were donated to the raffle, or is it possible the group just bought the tickets themselves and put up the raffle partly for publicity?

I'm sure they bought the tickets themselves and are now raffling them off for publicity. The point is, VDARE believes that Morrissey and Morrissey fans are "their kind of people" (in as many senses of that word as you like).

Morrissey looking like Rollins in that shot...

i was thinking Richard Spencer tbh

A bit off-topic, but a childhood friend of mine went in big for the whole evangelical thing after we more or less grew apart, and that also hooked him into extreme right wing politics. He was one of the few people I personally knew from school who made it clear they voted from Trump on 2016 election day, but I didn't realize how deranged his worldview had become until he actually trashed a news report on Richard Spencer for using the term "white hate" - like everything actually important about that story didn't register a single word from him, he was only angry about that phrase as if "white hate" was inherently racist towards whites, and from his reasoning, I could only guess it was some Fox News bullshit he swallowed whole. That was around 2017, the last time I thought of Spencer.

*voted for

i was thinking about spencer yesterday; he seems to have really vanished.

another successful antifa cancellation

not so dapper now are we

https://www.nme.com/news/music/morrissey-cancels-los-angeles-gig-midway-through-very-sorry-well-see-you-next-time-3348538

What a dickhead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oqS-8voPFc

If this were the "Morrissey is a dickhead" thread it would be even longer and more disparaging.

maybe he saw a chinese person in the audience

the band had to go tell the crowd? you incredible wuss

sick of himself, at long last

He needs to retire in Florida

This is the funniest thing Morrissey has done in years

the singer was "too old" on stage

CNN mobile has these two stories very close together and it’s killing me:

https://imgur.com/a/Ss4Jprv

^I lol'd

Morrissey's tour manager shared emails with me showing a Secret Service official from the Protective Intelligence Division reached out in November 2017 to arrange an intv with the singer after he said he'd kill Donald Trump "for the safety of humanity"

2/https://t.co/aZWpUKv8Zu pic.twitter.com/LPClQ7O0RO

— Jason Leopold (@JasonLeopold) January 18, 2023

don't make me like morrissey again

I know, right???

there's a little yin in every yang

Probably related to Trump's diet rather than his politics

"bloke thinks he can get away w/ serving McDonald's, not on my watch"

Trump is often used by terrible garbage ppl as someone to distance themselves from to convince themselves and perhaps others that they are not actually terrible garbage people.

He's also exhausted: https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/official-manager-statement-regarding-morrissey%E2%80%99s-health-january-26-2024.151949/

Zurich is stained.