Underworld - Drift

it's available for order on vinyl with those tracks now too. Not too attractive

this remix of dark train is dope

degree to which it is dope because it is almost indistinguishable from the regular dark train: unknown

yeah, that is true

we spend a little longer on this train, even though it moves a little bit faster. Doesn't seem like it has any newly recorded elements though

The blurb on it suggests that it’s strictly Rick playing the song live-in-studio exactly as he would at a current-era greatest hits festival show, but with Karl’s vocals as one extra track.

I quite like Underworld, but as I've noted before, I just want the fucker to STOP. SINGING.

If we lived in less perilous times I’d FP you have that

xp - do you mean you'd like his voice to appear less, table? Or that you don't want him to be "singing" as distinct from saying things?

I've got a lot of time for Karl Hyde releases - which tend towards "singing songs" - but his voice/lyrics seem even more essential in Underworld tracks, which seem different than that.

hereby challenge table to not enjoy "Edgeland"

I do wonder how much I'd really like his voice if they hadn't been a monumentally important band for me since I was a teenager

I personally love his voice though I guess he does try to do more than he probably should sometimes

made a playlist for tonight and the two UW tracks on it are "JAL to Tokyo" and "Faxed Invitation" and I am immensely enjoying them both

I quite like Underworld, but as I've noted before, I just want the fucker to STOP. SINGING.

― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, October 29, 2021 4:15 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

What a ridiculous post lmao

Here comes Christ on crutches...

This could almost be a thread of its own: whether there is any contemporary dance music that is not apt to be described as insufferably middle class and conservative at this point.
Of course any such discussion would be more interesting if everyone agreed not to conduct it on the basis of not having had an original thought in over twenty years.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 26 October 2021

well, they are now, but they certainly didn't start out that way, more so idprole - which the British music media loved compared to the lumpen hooliganism of the nuum, and in some senses I can sympathise. It's just that underworlds form of vaguely class conscious dance music was always too 80s. Just perpetually stuck in that technopop average mean, never venturing into proper hard techno, gabba, psychodelic acidic mayhem, industrial freakbeats, dub abstraction, etc. But then despite liking pop in hip hop, rnb, new wave, 80s synth music, after the post-acid recalibration of the musical timeline I've never found dance pop all that appealing - even in the glory years of 91-92 'ardcore, to me, (in a reversal of reynolds judgment) it was the folding of pop into rave, not rave into pop.

not sure they've put much out since last time you said you didn't like them
― ufo, Sunday, 24 October 2021

Listen to Pearsall's rampage Turbo mixes, happy hardcore kids discover trance. You get extreme sickly sweet corney euphoria at breakneck 170+ tempos, what's not to like? best of both worlds. Underworld could only dream of. https://soundcloud.com/sonicrampage/sets/rampage-turbo

never venturing into proper hard techno, gabba, psychodelic acidic mayhem, industrial freakbeats, dub abstraction, etc

thank god

thank god
― scanner darkly, Friday, 5 November 2021

Reverse snob, I see.

everyone stop bickering and put on the Pizza for Eggs EP the first 8 minutes with "Food a Ready" and "Back in the Fears" is some of the coolest music on the planet

i like uncool music though. cool music is overrated. that's precisely underworlds problem.

Ok put on Ring Road then

"underworld are too cool" is not really a complaint i ever expected to hear

which of the songs on Drift are the coolest, Robbie?

& also particularly at odds with robbie's previous complaint, "ex-libertines fan discovers dance music, nme-approved trance" makes them sound pretty uncool!

mega mega cool

& also particularly at odds with robbie's previous complaint, "ex-libertines fan discovers dance music, nme-approved trance" makes them sound pretty uncool!
― ufo, Friday, 5 November 2021

You must not be aware of trance being the cool thing in the dance music press now. Lorenzo Senni, Evian Christ etc. We're even, shock horror, having a full on sasha and sewer-digging--crapshoot revival with the likes of Adam Pits, Lisene, and the australian lot, Guy something.

which of the songs on Drift are the coolest, Robbie?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 5 November 2021

All of them, where's the schranz? That's what would really make it great and uncool for me.

Hundred Weight Hammer is pretty rad

Ok put on Ring Road then
― frogbs, Friday, 5 November 2021

how about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JuLV93OQOs

dance music ilx really doesn't need a toxic psycho "gifted child" asshole right now imo, so i'm fp-ing and not engaging and i would encourage others to do the same.

i mean Underworld mk1 aka the uncool years... cmon?

Sorry to overstate with nasty pejoratives but this person is not a good faith actor

also true

Sorry to overstate with nasty pejoratives but this person is not a good faith actor
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 5 November 2021

No need to apologise, just have the balls to say it.

You’re not a good faith actor and you have terrible taste

You’re not a good faith actor and you have terrible taste
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 6 November 2021

I don't care, I do not believe in the irrevocability of the beautiful, unlike Kant and dance music ilx. Nothing wrong with the terrible.

No need to apologise, just have the balls to say it.

― RobbiePires, Saturday, November 6, 2021 1:05 AM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh this apology wasn't intended for you, believe me

oh this apology wasn't intended for you, believe me
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Saturday, 6 November 2021

Thank heavens for that. I would not like to be in your debt. Shame for the other poor souls, though.

You must not be aware of trance being the cool thing in the dance music press now. Lorenzo Senni, Evian Christ etc.

This was semi-true five years ago and Evian Christ probably peaked attention-wise in 2013!

This was semi-true five years ago and Evian Christ probably peaked attention-wise in 2013!
― mh, Sunday, 7 November 2021

As far as I'm aware the ritual backlash against trance hasn't happened though as one would expect it to. If anything, it's all over a lot of contemporary techno and house, see that Roza Terenzi album - sounds like a record which would have come out from the English prog superclub scene of the 90s.

It's possible you spend way more time thinking about trance than anyone else here.

It feels like this attempt to pin a particular musical trend or affiliation on Underworld. They’re electronic dance music for NME readers, they’re trance, they’re a crossover act. Sure, they’ve probably been all those things. I guess if any of those disqualify you from enjoying their music, then don’t bother?

It feels like this attempt to pin a particular musical trend or affiliation on Underworld. They’re electronic dance music for NME readers, they’re trance, they’re a crossover act. Sure, they’ve probably been all those things. I guess if any of those disqualify you from enjoying their music, then don’t bother?
― mh, Sunday, 7 November 2021

It's more that I just don't get the appeal. They had their 90s lager lout moments with the first album and born slippy - which I don't necessarily like but I can at least appreciate as a reflection of a particularly mid 90s British cultural moment. Now they just seem to be piggybacking over whichever populist trend will make them vaguely relevant, which is kind of sad and tryhard.

Which populist trend does each song on Drift piggyback over?

(also wouldn’t piggybacking on the trends be tryharder-y?)

i'm not going to listen to all 7000 minutes of that abomination to offer an accurate assessment. polemic is the spice of criticism.

appleshine continuum is truly funkless, though.

polemic is the spice of criticism

Ah, to be 19 again...

the nostalgic impulse is strong, is it not? I suppose if I was paid I could listen to the whole prog opus which would make Steve Wilson embarrassed with shame for his Porcupine Tree albums not being long enough.

“funkless” is a populist trend? when did this start? I

after 2011.