Rolling Global Outernational Non-West Non-English (Some Exceptions) 2020 Thread (Often African bands)

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This thread is mainly for polyrhythmic, international sounds that aren't big enough to get threads of their own. I lean toward south of the equator sounds here that are sometimes less club-oriented than those of artists highlighted on Afrobeats, dancehall, soca threads. Sometimes, but not always, the artists are older than those on those other threads. More old-school bands too.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

Here's last year's thread:

Rolling Global Outernational Non-West Non-English (Some Exceptions) 2019 Thread Once Known as World Music

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 January 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link

https://moroccantapes.com/about

Looks interesting. Listed by genre I think

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 January 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link

Not a fan of Egyptian rocker Ramy Essam who is touring US. Too bombastic arena style for me. I have read that he’s a left leaning activist but the music is not my thing.

Algerian Sofiane Saide and His Mazalda Cosmic rai Band are coming to the US too. I haven’t heard them yet

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link

That should say Saidi. He and his rai band are in DC Friday and Monday, and in NY Saturday & Sunday. Sunday at Globalfest

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link

Then back to France and North Africa

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link

Saw a bit of a YouTube video of Sofiane Saidi. Sounded good and looked lively

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link

Saidi album is good but not great

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 January 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link

Gonna splurge and see Mahmoud Ahmed, legendary Ethiopian singer Saturday night at the Ethiopian Embassy backed by a band led by the guitarist of the Roha band (Ethiopiques) Selamino

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 January 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link

ilmer crut turned me onto this guy from Morocco - kinda synth/psychedelic I really dig it:
https://abdouelomari.bandcamp.com/album/nuits-d-t-avec-abdou-el-omari -- I also love the description: "Abdou El Omari, the bachelor hairdresser, composer and organ player from Morocco..." bachelor hairdresser!

also I posted this yesterday to Hey Jews but i think ppl itt would be interested in it too:
https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/the-hidden-world-of-psychedelic-jewish-folk

Mordy, Friday, 10 January 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

Oh no, it's the late Abdou El Omari

curmudgeon, Saturday, 11 January 2020 06:09 (four years ago) link

died in 2010 at the age of 66,

curmudgeon, Saturday, 11 January 2020 06:10 (four years ago) link

System K, a movie doc about Kinshasa, Congo street performers is at the Film Forum in NY till the 14th. Hopefully it will soon be available elsewhere

curmudgeon, Sunday, 12 January 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link

i'd love to see that

Mordy, Sunday, 12 January 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link

Mahmoud Ahmed did 2 great hour or so sets Saturday night at the Ethiopian Embassy in DC. At 78 his voice still is mesmerizing.

curmudgeon, Monday, 13 January 2020 04:11 (four years ago) link

Opening act singer Abeba Desalegn was good too.

curmudgeon, Monday, 13 January 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link

Fado singer Lina Rodrigues and producer Raül Refree (who's worked with Rosalía and Lee Ranaldo, among others) have collaborated on an album that takes traditional fado songs and brings them into an almost Portishead-ish zone. I interviewed them both for Bandcamp.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link

Songlines 12 five-star African albums from last year:
https://www.songlines.co.uk/explore/guides-and-lists/the-12-five-star-african-albums-of-2019

Dawda Jobarteh - I Met Her By the River
Vaudou Game - Otodi
Ali Hassan Kuban - From Nubia to Cairo
Blick Bassy - 1958
Baba Commandant and the Mandigo Band - Siri Ba Kele
Mdou Moctar - Ilana: The Creator
Benin International Musical - BIM#1
Africa Express - Egoli
VA - Mlouk: Gnawa and World Music Festival
KOKOKO! - Fongola
Tinariwen - Amadjar
VA - Early Congo Music 1946-1962

cool list!

Mordy, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

Good stuff, Phil – the music and interview both. Thanks for the heads up.

xp

pomenitul, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 19:25 (four years ago) link

Xp— that Songlines list is good, I agree

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 January 2020 05:17 (four years ago) link

Loving this!!! If you have been fortunate enough to see either Fendika or PNL’s Large Unit, you know that them together??! Perfection imo.

https://paalnilssen-love.bandcamp.com/album/ethiobraz

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:32 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I'm including that ^^^ in my upcoming Stereogum column. It rips.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link

I interviewed Korean artist Eunhye Jeong, who combines traditional pansori music with free jazz, for Bandcamp. The album is wild.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 17 January 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link

Tony Allen and Hugh Masekela recorded an album together before the latter died; it's coming out in March. This is the first track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMOJg16oHdI

Also note that this is the first release on the relaunched World Circuit label.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link

Saw Tony Allen with a band live once and he was great. Hopefully that recording with Masekela will be great.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 January 2020 04:03 (four years ago) link

finally got a hold of that early congo music comp from that songlines list and if congolese rumba in yr jam (it's v much mine) it's really a fantastic document and i don't know a lot of these artists!

also enjoyed this MOGADISCO: Dancing Mogadishu (Somalia 1972-1991) comp - not sure we've mentioned it in any of these threads

Mordy, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link

That early Congo music release is from a Japanese label. Is any US distributor handling it?

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2020 04:51 (four years ago) link

Listened to the reissue of an Issam Hajali album today - Lebanese Acid Folk from the 70's with touches of orchestral pop, prog, bossa nova. Killer album, Habibi Funk is such a great label.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 24 January 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link

ooo good stuff thx for the tip

Mordy, Friday, 24 January 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link

The major keepers from globalFest imo were:

San Salvador: South France polyphony with drums... fucking volcanic live - https://soundcloud.com/lostintraditions/sets/san-salvador-live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt1Ok0Kvcsg

La Chica: Venezuelan French woman doing dope electro-pop - https://remezcla.com/features/music/la-chica-profile/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Q0YmCRa1Y

Ak Dan Gwang Chil: sprawling South Korean band with three lead female singers and killer style - http://sori.nyc/adgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krIHTd-7PGY

And, of course, Cheikh Lo was lovely as always

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 January 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link

Heard good things about Ak Dan Gwang Chil. They were in DC at Kennedy Center too, but just billed as a folkloric trad group and I missed them. Kennedy Center Millennium Stage 1 hour gigs are videotaped and archived -- will check that out as well.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 26 January 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link

Gregory Maqoma’s Vuyani Dance Theatre from South Africa did an intense performance last night @ Kennedy Center entitled “Cion: Requiem of Ravel’s Bolero.” Set in a graveyard , the singers/dancers combined mournful South African Isicathamiya a capella singing w/ beatbox rap & hiphop dance (both modern and popping and locking). A touch of Malathini in vocals via use of froggy voice megaphone, also traditional tongue clicking at one point. No video allowed last night. Too bad as the video trailers on Youtube are much more tame than what I saw. The NY Times profiled Maqoma and gave a fave review to their performance last weekend in NYC. South African composer Nhlanhla Mahlangu cleverly transposed Ravel's Bolero to a marching snare drum beat and via other ways as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGcOE7LamP0

curmudgeon, Sunday, 26 January 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

i'm enjoying this this morning (on spotify) - sorta Anglo-Scots/Indian folk fusion:
https://www.dominomusic.com/releases/yorkston-thorne-khan/navarasa-nine-emotions/cd

Mordy, Sunday, 26 January 2020 16:00 (four years ago) link

x-post

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/arts/dance/gregory-maqoma.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/19/arts/music/prototype-festival-opera.html

Maqoma's South African dance and song gets love from NY Times

curmudgeon, Sunday, 26 January 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link

Looks like Maqoma’s Vuyani Dance Theatre from South Africa have only 1 more US appearance - February 1 at Mass Moca

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 January 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link

Shows in New York:

Sat., Feb 1:
3MA, comprising Malian kora master Ballaké Sissoko, Moroccan oud expert Driss El Maloumi, and Malagasy valiha extraordinaire Rajery plays a FREE show at Public Records. Don't forget to RSVP!

curmudgeon, Saturday, 1 February 2020 00:10 (four years ago) link

Ulysses and Unperson should go to that.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

Unfortunately, I'm gonna be at the Jazz Gallery tonight.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 1 February 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link

i've had the flu for about a week - mildly unpleasant. more unpleasant has been taking care of 3 sick kids who also are sick and being mostly cooped inside. today i was feeling better but w/ some cabin fever so i took reggie for a long walk outside. it had rained in the morning and was still cold and the air was sharp but there were lots of birds and small mammals about. i listened to the new afropop worldwide episode about the field recordings of High Tracey who did a lot of fieldwork in traditional communities in Africa in the 1950s particularly in Malawi. i had not heard these before but many are extraordinary + strange lots of inventive vocal and instrumental sounds, some things that reminded me of reading feld's sound and sentiment, really some wonderful things to listen to and especially on a chilly, somewhat wet walk after spending all week ill and indoors.

Mordy, Sunday, 2 February 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

Hugh* Tracey but i guess that's a little easter egg there

Mordy, Sunday, 2 February 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link

Mordy, did you study ethnomusicology? Not doing so has always been a minor regret of mine. I did take an intro anthropology course and the prof would start each class by playing music and asking us to guess where it was from

rob, Monday, 3 February 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link

Sorta - I did a Performance Studies grad degree but worked with ethnomusicologists and on topics that had a lot of crossover so I ended up studying + reading a lot of ethnomusicology and took a few classes in the discipline. I was mostly interested in religious + liturgical music and wrote about Jewish music primarily but I also wrote about other things. I also did a course in Sound Studies that was very interesting.

Mordy, Monday, 3 February 2020 15:08 (four years ago) link

Ah that's interesting. A good friend of mine is doing a PhD in performance studies at CUNY right now and all his classes sound great--he's a playwright & director but is also taking a lot of music-related courses. When I worked in academic publishing I promoted ethnomusicology books but never had time to do much more than skim them (I wish I'd kept copies of them all now!). Sound studies is closer to my own academic field (media/comms) but I haven't had a chance to get seriously into yet.

rob, Monday, 3 February 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link

Shakira At Super Bowl halftime used the the Congo instrumental song Icha by Syran Mbenza. The guitar solo is by Lokassa Ya Mbongo I am reading on twitter. Colombian champeta is drawn from Congolese rumba in part.

She also drew a bit from her Lebanese heritage. Zaghrouta is the tongue thing she did.

curmudgeon, Monday, 3 February 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

Maybe some university classes are discussing that today!

curmudgeon, Monday, 3 February 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link

Plus the myriad other elements and the guests Bad Bunny & J Balvin

curmudgeon, Monday, 3 February 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link

I didn't see it, but that does sound like a rich text!

rob, Monday, 3 February 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

can't wait to talk about this w my students!
they love bad bunny

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

Would be interested in seeing that list - def know kino's name - feel like i maybe have the music but not listened but the texas background sounds interesting - shld check if i know who that is - but would be interested in seeing the list he he suggested

H in Addis, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

Kumera Zekarias of Kino Musica faves:

Artists Mentioned
Ali Birra-- Oromo singer, oud and guitar player. He's my biggest influence on current song writing
Tilahun Gessesse--the most famous Ethiopian singer among Ethiopians. He was my father's favorite singer
Yared Negu-my favorite contemporary Ethiopop artist
Galaanaa Gaaromsaa-my favorite contemporary Oromo artist
Abinet Agonafir-my favorite contemporary/2000's Ethoipian artist

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 November 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

I've got to listen to the above plus been reading about some new Awesome tapes from Africa releases and Sahel Sounds ones too

curmudgeon, Monday, 16 November 2020 07:03 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Saw someone mention Ustad Saami in albums of the year thread, but I think it was because he got a good Quietus review during the year but didn’t make their list.

The Hailu Mergia ep is a top 10 for me. Still thinking about and listening to others when I can.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

That was me. The new one from Ustad Saami is breathtakingly good.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

i'll agree on that mergia, would like to see it in more places

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

Siti Muharam
Siti of Unguja (Romance Revolution on Zanzibar

This taraab music album made the NPR album top 50 list . I forget whether someone had mentioned it earlier this year

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

Is it good? There was a taraab album on another list I saw (iirc either Gioa's or Songlines)

rob, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

Must admit I haven’t heard it yet

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

Heh no problem, I kept the Songlines list tab open for a day until I gave up on the hope of listening to it all. This year is beyond overstuffed.

I'm listening to Afel Bocoum's Lindé album right now, which is quite nice. I've been getting into Malian music in general this year, so the horn parts are a genuinely surprising flourish

rob, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

oh cool I didn't realize that it's Vin Gordon playing the trombone on this

rob, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

Didn't realize he's still alive!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

same! I guess he was only about 14 or 15 when he joined the Skatalites

rob, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

I am liking the Bocoum album too and the collaborators despite my concern that producers Nick Gold & Famon Albarn are trying to impose their hipster world music visions

curmudgeon, Friday, 4 December 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link

Damn autocorrect. Damon

curmudgeon, Friday, 4 December 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link

Nyege Nyege is doing an online festival today and tomorrow, it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyegeNyegeM

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

OOF, so embarrassing. Here's a better link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=featured

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

fuck my life

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

December 3 through 6 is Nyege Nyege fest and those YouTube links don’t seem to work

curmudgeon, Friday, 4 December 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

all the links are here on the Nyege Nyege Music YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClyGfHMQNG

this one's live right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c0gWTviskQ

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Friday, 4 December 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

“it” doesn’t do channel links apparently

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Friday, 4 December 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link

the live link works tho

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Friday, 4 December 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

Alas, most music critics included in year end polls discussed in that other thread aren’t listening to music on this thread

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

:-(

Notable that Duma, among some other Nyege Nyege-related artists, have made it onto many lists.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

That’s good . It’s beat driven and noisy enough. But others on this thread are ignored as they’re considered too traditional or too old ; or just ignored by folks just listening to only age 20-something artists from the genres of country, rap, chart pop, and rock .

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

...but not afropop

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

so it’s probably not so much age-related as geographical

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

Or maybe both. I see Jon Pareles of NY Times included Burna Boy in his album list, and a Tiwa Savage song in his song list. He has Bad Bunny and Lido Pimienta too. Other Times critics had no African music. NY Times jazz list had 2 South African releases though

LA Times song list I glanced at was largely US pop, rap, country with some token reggaeton

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

they are some of the exceptions that prove the rule unfortunately (I’ve been moaning about it on the 2020 end of year music lists thread)

fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 December 2020 07:52 (three years ago) link

I wasn’t clear enough. I agree with you that those are the exceptions.

Los Angeles Times top 10 album list with 10 more honorable mentions includes no African based acts. It does include Los Angeles resident ( via DC area) Kali Uchis new Spanish language release as its one exception to the rule.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

this list includes some thread-worthy selections:

https://thevinylfactory.com/features/best-albums-of-2020/

(apart from two Nyege Nyege Tapes releases, I glanced Groupe RTD -
The Dancing Devils of Djibouti at 41, Benin's Star Feminine Band - s/t at 36, and Siti Muharam - Siti of Unguja (Romance Revolution On Zanzibar) at 25)

im-polite-post-post-post-pomo (breastcrawl), Friday, 11 December 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

I finally listened to some of Siti Muharam - Siti of Unguja (Romance Revolution On Zanzibar). Hand slapped percussion with some traditional high-pitched female vocals, some jazzy horns, and high-pitched strings that all together evokes a mid-eastern, north African, and South Asian whirling Islamic feel

curmudgeon, Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link

Still more to catch up on here and on Afro Thread, dancehall, soca , Brazilian ones too

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 December 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

Majid Bekkas' Magic Spirit Quartet is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTFoqHJtap8

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

oh wow, the Siti Muharam albums RULES

loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

X-post - have only heard a little of Moroccan stringed instruments player Bekkas with his Scandanavian based band but I like it so far.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

I need to dig through that Ted Gioia critic’s list

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

Nomcebo Zikode - Xola Moya Wami [Feat. Master KG]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPDyF04DyOQ

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

wow, what's that language? those qh like aspirations remind me of Greenlandic

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 11:42 (three years ago) link

it’s Zulu (and she’s South African). the same people made one of the big global hits of this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCZVL_8D048
Master KG ft. Nomcebo Zikode • Jerusalema

obsessed with quality over quantity or the need to produce tracks (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link

excellent, thanks

Skeleton Move is one of my all time faves, but that's light on lyrics (although maybe that first phrase "uaneetamos"? is Zulu)

really like his/their melancholy/inspirational/banger vibe

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

In fairness, it's very hard to keep up with the ridiculously high volume of great music coming out of South Africa right now.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

we’ve got threads for that!

obsessed with quality over quantity or the need to produce tracks (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

Albums from Ted Gioia list I am curious about (with his little descriptions; artist name is listed on top):

Bab L’ Bluz
Nayda!
If Motown Had Existed in North Africa...

Chouk Bwa & The Ångstromers
Vodou Alé
Haitian Drumming and Singing with Touches of Electronica and Dancehall Music

Contours
Balafon Sketches
Gamelan, Percussion and Traditional Instruments Meet Synthesizers, Software and Pedal Effects

André Mehmari and Danilo Brito
Nosso Brazil
Mandolin and Piano Duet Performances of the Works of Brazilian Choro Composers

Penya (with Msafiri Zawose)
Penya Safari
East African EDM/Call-and-Response Tanzanian Pop

Various Artists
Apala Groups In Nigeria 1967-70
First Collection of Apala Music Released Outside Nigeria

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

more from Ted's honorable mentions:

Caixa Cubo: Angela
Electric Brazilian Jazz-Rock-Pop

Dumama + Kechou: Buffering Juju
African Traditional Song Meets Synthpop

Seu Jorge & Rogê: Night Dreamer Direct-To-Disc Sessions
Acoustic Brazilian Popular Music

Matthew Joseph: Mood Masala
Funk Influenced by Indian Music and Fingerstyle Guitar

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 December 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

the Bab L’Bluz is great, not sure what Motown has to do with it tho

I wish the movie doc Elder’s Corner was available for streaming. It is now only visible via certain movie festivals. It’s about a NYC based Nigerian who goes back home to find the old school musicians he heard as a kid

curmudgeon, Thursday, 31 December 2020 06:42 (three years ago) link

Gonna start a 2021 thread

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 January 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link


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