Better DCHC: Bad Brains or Minor Threat?

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Well, which is it?

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 30 November 2002 04:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Bad Brains, mostly because (a) they managed to cram in some spectacular guitar work (as in sound, not merely technique - see "Banned in DC"), (b) did the fast-slow-fast thing better than most other hardcore bands, and (c) I am not going to go into the whole "straight edge" thing but I think you get the gist.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 30 November 2002 04:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Word. Yes the Bad Brains were also more technically astute. Minor Threat did have the relentless polkabeat speed thing going though...

And with (c), yeah, but you know what, fuck it, because Frank saw Ian in a bar drinking a beer (and appropriatly bumped into him full throttle, and said, "Oh! EXCUSE ME, IAN!!", so the sXe thing ain't coming into play as far as I'm concerned. It's smash'em time.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 30 November 2002 04:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Bad Brains disqualified as they moved to New York.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 30 November 2002 05:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, yeah, I guess. Way to ruin my thread. And hurt a guys feelings. Friggen New Yorkers, so calloused and unfeeling.

On a side note, isn't it funny how HR went all crazy and now he's all rastaman to the max and just taunts all the punkers that come to SoulBrains shows and calls them "My Children". And he has parrots.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 30 November 2002 05:19 (twenty-three years ago)

What is this, Sophie's Choice?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 30 November 2002 05:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Heh heh. I'd probably say Bad Brains but I listen to Minor Threat a lot more.

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 November 2002 05:51 (twenty-three years ago)

C'mon, polyphonic, this has nothing to do with Sophie (Meryl Streep) being the survivor of Nazi concentration camps, who has found a reason to live in Nathan (Kevin Kline), a sparkling if unsteady American Jew obsessed with the Holocaust.

Like my Ctrl-C Ctrl V skills?

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 30 November 2002 05:55 (twenty-three years ago)

The book is better.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 30 November 2002 05:59 (twenty-three years ago)

by being occasionally way WAY better, bad brains got a free pass on many more lame recs/moves than minor threat

the contradictions in the MT sXe position are — if absorbed deeply and lived by — more likely to push u to somewhere difft than the contradictions in the BB position? (disclaimer: second par may not be true is it depends on assumptions about "depth" fandom which are themselves surely inherently contradictory)

cf: "of course the REAL fans aren't buying the record"

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:30 (twenty-three years ago)

as MacKaye has pointed out, his own (unfortunately movement-starting) position was only autodidactic: the line from the song goes "I've got the straight edge" (emphasis mine). People have extremely strong reactions to this stuff and so will often complain that modelling a position is the same as preaching it, but I'm not persuaded of that.

I'd rather listen to early Bad Brains but Minor Threat wins because MacKaye is on record as having said that his most important inspiration was a Ted Nugent show

J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Saturday, 30 November 2002 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Bad Brains, Bad Brains, Bad Brains.

Their worst was worse but their best was better. Jus a shame Bad Brains couldn't have mutated into a black Fugazi, now that would be something to see.

meirion john lewis (mei), Saturday, 30 November 2002 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm pretty sure they DID mutate into a black Fugazi...

Kris (aqueduct), Sunday, 1 December 2002 06:05 (twenty-three years ago)

four years pass...

It's occurred to me recently that Ian MacKaye's musical career was lifted from Bad Brains. Everyone seems to agree that 1980 BB was a direct precursor to Ian's early hardcore stuff, but after revisiting I Against I for the first time in a decade, it seems to me that Fugazi stole all their best moves from it. Does this make Bad Brains the most important -- if not most consistent -- punk band ever, in terms of ultimate influence? Quite possibly, yes.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

Bad Brains probably edge out Minor Threat in sheer musicianship, but I still prefer Minor Threat - a more consistent band with a more compelling sound, I think.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

I guess with Bad Brains it's more a trickle down theory thing, as opposed to Minor Threat where there's every fucking town has a band (in some cases a lot more) ripping them off with no disguise at all

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

Bad Brains, but only by a hair

latebloomer, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

or dreadlock or whatever

latebloomer, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

4,344 strong right now, better join up. Or go blow bubbles,

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=93269030062&ref=share

bendy, Sunday, 23 November 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)

They played DC election night (although according to this Washington Post review, HR was there in body but not exactly in spirit)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603683.html

Bad Brains

So, a freshly reunited, legendary, all-black, hard-core D.C. band plays to a sold-out crowd of rowdy punk rockers on the night that America elects its first African American president. How could this show be anything but jaw-dropping? When Bad Brains performed Tuesday at the 9:30 club, circumstances had aligned so perfectly in the band's favor that if guitarist Dr. Know merely showed up and strummed an open G chord, that alone would have been enough to send an unruly mob of fans spilling into the streets.

But what the band really needed more than a once-in-a-lifetime gig was somebody to make lead singer H.R. angry enough to perform -- somebody to jump onstage and pull his dreadlocks or give him a cheap kick in the shins. During the early '80s, when H.R. could still get his dander up, he was among the most unhinged punk-rock frontmen alive. But Tuesday night the singer defused the set by appearing positively zonked -- daintily wiggling his fingers in the air and mumbling inaudibly as the rhythm section chugged viciously, not to mention incongrously, away behind him.

To their credit, the other members of Bad Brains still tore it up, delivering precision takes of songs such as "Sailin' On" and "Re-Ignition." But with H.R. exhibiting all of the fury of a Carnival Cruise house band emcee, "Attitude" didn't really live up to its name. All said, when 2012 rolls around, maybe Bad Brains' people should start talking to Ashlee Simpson's people about acquiring that automated-vocal machine.

-- Aaron Leitko

curmudgeon, Sunday, 23 November 2008 03:45 (seventeen years ago)


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