Randy Newman - 12 Songs poll

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In honour of Mr. Newman's 79th birthday, and since he's never had a poll on here other than between a handful of songs, and since I had an irrational concern that the next we'd hear of him was an RIP thread: a poll of maybe his most-loved album.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Let's Burn Down the Cornfield 4
Have You Seen My Baby? 3
Old Kentucky Home 3
If You Need Oil 1
Lover's Prayer 1
Rosemary 0
Yellow Man 0
Underneath the Harlem Moon 0
Lucinda 0
Suzanne 0
Mama Told Me Not to Come 0
Uncle Bob's Midnight Blues 0


Halfway there but for you, Monday, 28 November 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

Looking forward to revisiting this weird & underrated album.

Haven’t listened to the whole thing in a while but a favorite has always been “If You Need Oil”, which is just a perfect summoning of the wonderful haunted lonely feeling of working somewhere alone late at night (in the pre-smartphone era at least), just staring off into space and wishing someone would visit. “How can you be sleeping when you know that I’m awake”… chills every time.

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 28 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

Have to go with Old Kentucky Home

piscesx, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

"Let's Burn Down the Cornfield" invents Rain Dogs-era Tom Waits.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 November 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

When I first heard "Let's Burn Down the Cornfield," it sounded like it could've been done for a lost Twin Peaks episode, even though it was released twenty years earlier.

birdistheword, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

“if you need oil”

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 04:59 (one year ago) link

"Cornfield" became a wild mini-standard at the time, covered by Lee Hazelwood, Sam "The Sham" Samudio, Lou Rawls, Long John Baldry, Etta James...

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link

I feel that this is his most listenable album, just in terms of setting a mood over and above the lyrical content. Maybe it's helped in that by the modest scope and simple arrangements of most of those songs.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

I really love the summery sound of this record. the songs are great too.

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

Cornfield for sure. Eerie as hell

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

This is my favorite Randy Newman album. Just perfect, and put together they all feel like character sketches occupying the same dark and twisted world.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

("they" being each of the 12 songs)

birdistheword, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

What about "Yellow Man"? Its placement right after "Underneath the Harlem Moon" seems significant, as if Newman wanted to create his own portrait of patronizing racism after performing a cover version. But I have to imagine that dealing with anti-Asian attitudes in 1970 would inevitably revolve around Vietnam... so is the idea that the character singing the song is, in his nominally "positive" portrait of the Asian (that he's "just like you and me"), expressing a humanistic and anti-Vietnam war perspective, but in the most fatuous and stereotyped manner possible?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 2 December 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 4 December 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 5 December 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

I guess not a lot of people listen to this?

Regardless, I wish more people did - most people I know hate Newman and they only know him through his movie work. They won't know a song like "Sail Away" or an album like 12 Songs, they just think he makes sentimental fluff for Disney.

birdistheword, Monday, 5 December 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link

I don't mind the sentimental fluff

but also wish I was more into his old stuff, great songwriter

corrs unplugged, Monday, 5 December 2022 09:50 (one year ago) link

As a film composer, he's not bad at all, but writing for Hollywood films - especially if it's for someone like Ron Howard, Disney, etc. - usually means he's got to lean hard into sentimentality.

To be fair, it's that element that makes some of his earlier records - Good Old Boys and especially "Sail Away" - all the more powerful. It can deconstruct the baggage that comes with those lush, romantic Hollywood orchestrations, and it makes the untrustworthy narration of something like "Sail Away" sharper and all the more effective, emphasizing the myth of the American dream that we shouldn't buy into. Greil Marcus nailed it in Mystery Train, what the narrator is selling is "what America would like to believe about itself, and what ten years of [the Vietnam] war across the ocean and ten years of bitter black faces will never let it believe, even in secret: that everything American did was for the good. Better than good: that God's work really was our own and meant to be. That we brought something new and precious into the world, a land even the most miserable slaves would recognize as Eden."

I still need to do a deeper dive into his earlier songs, when most of his stuff was recorded by other people. I know like a handful from albums I already own (Blood, Sweat & Tears' Child Is Father to the Man, Dusty in Memphis) and the Harry Nilsson album where he only does Randy Newman covers is one of Nilsson's very best (his other Newman covers before and after that album are consistently good). Ace in the UK also has two volumes of a compilation (all covers of Newman songs) that includes a lot of those early songs too.

birdistheword, Monday, 5 December 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

Those Ace comps are terrific, some really fantastic stuff on there

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 5 December 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

Misread that, thought it said “Those Ace doubles” and did an, um, double take.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

I hoped for 12 votes and got them.

I don't mind the sentimental fluff

I wonder if this is the only Newman studio album with no string arrangements?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 03:44 (one year ago) link


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