TS: Guns'n'Roses Vs McCarthy

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Don't ask me but according to Nicky Wire on yesterday's Mark & Lard show a discussion concerning the respective merits of both bands erupted into one of the bitterest and divisive arguments in the Manics camp. Apparently it lasted three days and resulted in James smashing a copy of 'Appetite For Destruction' in a fit of pique.
I wondered if there is some untapped well of strife between the two band camps, is there an unbreachable polarity here? Or something?
Probably not, not really, but we'll find out when we ask: Who is best?

― DavidM (DavidM), Saturday, 30 November 2002 14:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't ask me, I know very little about McCarthy. I (vaguely) remember the song 'Should The Bible Be Banned', one lyric went something like "my father hated me, he always took my brother's side/at Christmas he would get a car and I'd be given 50p", which was good/bad.

But on lack of evidence though I would have to go for G'n'R, if only for 'Sweet Child O'Mine'.

― DavidM (DavidM), Saturday, 30 November 2002 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

McCarthy are pretty good, you should try to track down the compilation "That's All Very Well But..." which contains pretty much everything you'll need. I'm not as fond of their post-c86 stuff.

The Manics' debate was less about the respective merits of the two bands than what they symbolized: politicized indie band with 30 fans that can say whatever they want because they won't be heard vs. non-politicized million-selling band that can say whatever they want because no one cares what they think. Also one could argue that Guns N'Roses were political in the same way that Madonna is political: people pay attention to them, they mess with people's minds, they're cultural/sexual/social signifiers in a way that McCarthy is not.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 1 December 2002 11:30 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, but even with their naive approach, mccarthy's political positions could change lives and attitudes in their (small number of) fans, and make them think in a different way, whilst g'n'r were completely harmless. they rocked, and that was it.
mccarthy rocked as well, and they had beautiful tunes away from that macho stereotype, and they made you look around and think.

― joan vich (joan vich), Monday, 2 December 2002 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

man, and i read 'mccarthy' as 'mccartney' and thought this was going to be a thread about _live and let die_. i'm so disappointed. GNR's version kicked paul mccartney's butt. oh yeah.

― kate, Monday, 2 December 2002 12:23 (twenty-three years ago)

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