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I was lazy and did not search if this has been done before (if so, sorry in advance)...anyway I really, really love them and only as of late have I been seeing their name around more and more...I am trying to get a hold of Union, (I know someone else that posts here is looking for it too) any thoughts?

ddb, Thursday, 12 December 2002 15:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

You probably know this, ddb, but I think they're classic. Also looking for a copy of Union. I've got Market Square and Historic 6th Ward, so if anyone needs copies, let me know.

Scorces (Christina and Heather from Ch.) are great too, anyone else heard 'em?

hstencil, Thursday, 12 December 2002 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

(I know someone else that posts here is looking for it too)

psssssst...hstencil, thats you!


how is market square? do you have that harmony of spheres, drunken fish box, it's pretty great!

ddb, Thursday, 12 December 2002 16:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Market Square is great, probably my favorite thing by them so far (although it's not the current line-up). Do you want a copy? Yeah, I've got that box too, forgot about that. Again, a very good track by them (and the contributions by the other bands/performers are really good, too).

Did you know that they've signed to Kranky?

(and ddb, are you going to see Coptic Light tonight?)

hstencil, Thursday, 12 December 2002 16:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

C - Being as Is, Market Square, "Naked in Our Deathskins," IN CR EA SE
D - maybe Sticks. kinda subpar. otherwise 'D' = N/A.

i can supply a copy of Union - pref. in trade for a copy of S/T, Slate Branches, Home, or Carter's 'Monument.' contact offline.

summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Thursday, 12 December 2002 16:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Man a copy of Market Square would really be great, I'd be in your debt...and seeing how you have all the records I own...you'll just have to settle for me buying you a beer next time I see you, which won't be tonight. It's a friends birthday, and I have to "show face", which sucks cause I'm not too crazy about the birthday girl, and I am trying to be an embassador of good will to cancel out the bad karma of throwing all those puppies in the river. And my suggestion of having a little celebration at the parkside lounge was totally thwarted...I'm sure the light will be off the hook.


-ddb

any other shows of note coming up?

ddb, Thursday, 12 December 2002 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Aw, fucker. Can't you make an appearance, then kindly duck out for the heavy rock? Don't choo wanna see Jon "Poodles" Fine rock hard?

Not anything else I know of this weekend, but next week there's the Panthers/Debut Battles show on Thursday (the latter is Ian Williams from Don Cab's new band), then Arthur Lee/Love on Friday. I think Test is playing the Sunday before Xmas too, I'll probably go to that. I feel like I'm forgetting something...

Your pals Black Dice at ze Swiss-beats Institut (fur Motoriken)?

hstencil, Thursday, 12 December 2002 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Marvy fun fab, this band. Even though their music sounds nothing like that description.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 December 2002 17:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

(I'll most likely be at Coptic Light--those bands Z's and Octis that they're playing with are really great, too.)

die9o (dhadis), Thursday, 12 December 2002 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's what I hear. Are you Diego? THE Diego? Saw you at the Merzbow show, brah.

hstencil, Thursday, 12 December 2002 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

That Scorces CD scared the living bejeezus out of me the one time I gave it a spin. In a good way, of course.

How about giving novices a li'l guide as to which $60 OOP Chalarmbides disc we wanna buy off eBay?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 12 December 2002 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Market Square shouldn't go for more than $20. Never seen Union up, so I'd imagine it'd be a doozy.

hstencil, Thursday, 12 December 2002 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Oh wow, the internet collides with real life. Weird. Guess I'll see you tonight, right?)

die9o (dhadis), Thursday, 12 December 2002 18:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Last time I noticed, copies of Union are going for $75 on eBay. Glad I got my copy when I did (it's still my fave release of theirs)

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Thursday, 12 December 2002 18:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

w3rd, di36o.

Can't stop the Poodles.

hstencil, Thursday, 12 December 2002 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

well, I've heard a track on the drug music update and it souds fab. but i never come across their recs in the shops in the UK. definetely something to search for.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 13 December 2002 04:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

I bought _Market Square_ from Rough Trade in Covent Garden, & they have had occasional other releases by them, but I mostly go for mailorder now where this band is concerned. Ed at Eclipse stocks pretty much everything when it 1st comes out (but they don't always hang around). Rod Goodway & Gayle Boa/Melody Bar over here in the UK occasionally have stuff by them.

Like the early records best, _Market Square_, _Historic 6th Ward_ or _Our Bed Is Green_, before they found their now signature sound.

Wondering Boy Poet, Friday, 13 December 2002 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
I got the (new?) Scorces LP on Eclipse today. the one with the french title. it's really gorgeous, obviously. i saw scorces play sometime near the end of last year & it wz really sexual and crazy. but awesome of course.

i fear that i'm going to spend too much money ordering things from eclipse tonight if i get more drunk (doesn't this belong in another thread??) ooooh lord. but i have mp3s of nearly everything, or i can get them.. so i can hold off on getting vinyl copies of things, but there's always the problem of the vinyl copies disappeaaring.

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 12 March 2004 07:21 (twenty years ago) link

what a nice thread, old times, etc.

Ian I was at that show, too. Didn't think Scorces were as good as times I'd seen 'em previously, but if was your first time seein' 'em, they weren't so bad (Jackie-O made me leave).

hstencil, Friday, 12 March 2004 07:30 (twenty years ago) link

also, i can make CDRs of the Charalambides Union LP if anyone is in need. most other releases by them/scorces/tom carter too.

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 12 March 2004 18:15 (twenty years ago) link

The first disc I heard by the 'Bides was something called Hand Held Live... a CD-R, I believe. In any case I'd seriously recommend searching it out. It's as good or better than their proper "albums."

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Friday, 12 March 2004 18:53 (twenty years ago) link

The intro to Market Square alone is worth anything you pay for it. No exaggeration, probably the creepiest, coolest intro to a record EVER!

Destroy the earlier stuff - Ash Castles, s/t CDr, etc - though 'destroy' is harsh - I LOVED them at the time, but they've come so far since then. Plus there's a really embarrassing pop song on on eof those that rips the Godz's "Ruby Red" note for note

Destroy Ash Castles on the Ghost Coast, for the most part. Zzzzzzzzz...

How much are Mike Gunn records going for these days?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 13 March 2004 00:38 (twenty years ago) link

Destroy Ash Castles on the Ghost Coast, for the most part. Zzzzzzzzz...

Hey, you're mean.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

well, to be fair - i only heard that CDr from about ten years ago. Haven't heard any new stuff. And Scorces is pretty cool

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 13 March 2004 00:58 (twenty years ago) link

Historic 6th Ward would vie for the most-spinned-ever spot out of my cd collection.

Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Saturday, 13 March 2004 02:37 (twenty years ago) link

i really like ash castles, but it don't sound a thang like charalambides to me.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 13 March 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago) link

I like everything by Charalambides I have heard, so classic throughout...

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 14 March 2004 02:38 (twenty years ago) link

AMG loves the new one

Not out until May. Has it leaked or have you heard it?

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 19 March 2004 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
Seriously, what's the verdict on Joy Shapes? I'm awaiting a job and subsequent paycheck to order a crapload of stuff from Eclipse, including this, since the local shops don't seem to have copies.

All of the reviews I've read allude to screaming vocals from Christina, which could be either really good or really bad. Does it sound cheesy or contrived, as sometimes these things do?

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 31 May 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

i'll listen to it and report back, if no one else does.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 31 May 2004 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Ian - buy it, it's genius. I'll post my YF review later maybe. Anyway, it easily tops everything else they've done

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 31 May 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I loved "Unknown Spin", and I am undecided about "Joy Shapes" after a couple listens. There is a lot of creepy, intimate tension with the vocals, but the "songs" themselves are a bit indistinguishable. I think I just need to be more patient.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

so basically it sounds like all of their other recent albums, michael?

(still haven't listened to it.)

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

the vocals are waaaay more upfront on Joy Shapes. Mr. Kranky called them 'the elephant in the room.' more wail, less caress; the first song is almost too much for me. the microtonal intimacy of the three guitars is in full effect though.

andybeta, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

YEs, the vocals are more up-front, but I wouldn't say she's 'screaming,' as it was characterized upthread. I'm down with Roger. Its very, very good stuff.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 3 June 2004 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I love it too, although it's burned onto the same CD as "Unknown Spin" so I have trouble remembering which is which. Either way, all of it is great.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 3 June 2004 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link

im on the fence about the first track (the banshee screaming is just unsettling and unpleasant to me so far) the rest is pretty great and hypnotic.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 3 June 2004 05:15 (nineteen years ago) link

i will have to look for this tomorrow when i go into the city where they have real record stores.

otherwise, eclipse it is. rahr

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 3 June 2004 05:32 (nineteen years ago) link

"I love it too, although it's burned onto the same CD as "Unknown Spin" so I have trouble remembering which is which. Either way, all of it is great."
How in the hell can it be on the same CD? US is at least an hour, and JS is a lobe-melting 75 minutes+.

andybeta, Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

mp3s are wonderful things.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

well duh that, but my impression was that they weren't labeled in any way.

andybeta, Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

what do scorces sound like?

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

imagine a vortex of both geechie wiley and patty waters...

andybeta, Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Scorces are less chimey more droney. I really like side B of their Eclipse LP, and they were good live.

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Historic 6th Ward is incredible. The homemade feel of the packaging suggests that it could be pretty rare -- is this true? I found two copies at the same store on the same day and bought them both.

Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Friday, 4 June 2004 01:55 (nineteen years ago) link

And the packaging is different on each one, I should add...

Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Friday, 4 June 2004 01:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, Historic Sixth Ward is pretty rare.. e-mail me if yr interested in getting rid of your other copy, actually; all I have is a lousy CDR.

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 4 June 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link

It's rare? How weird. I found my copy used too!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

eh, I could be wrong. it's out of print at any rate.

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 4 June 2004 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link

aside from Market Square and other Siltbreeze and Kranky titles, they almost always have that 'touched by the artist' aspect to 'em. Union has it in spades. my copy has a William Blake poem pasted to it.

andybeta, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Does "massdist" just mean Colin Langenus in some form? I know that is his label/email/twitter whatever, but dude is in like 5 bands. Which one is playing?

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's the Colin L Orchestra.

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

Col L. Orchestra is my favorite of his current bands, good deal.

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

Will be onstage tonight at 8:30.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

someone post how it was if attending.

very sexual album (schlump), Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

i really want to go to this but i have to do my radio show :(

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

i initially thought the show was friday -- friday was just the first night of the two day event

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

So there are at least two fundraising comps for Tom now kicking around:

http://featheredcoyoterecords.bandcamp.com/album/lunar-jams-for-tom-carter

http://musicfortomcarter.bandcamp.com/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

And on top of those earlier ones! United Bible Studies have just released a massive tribute benefit comp:

http://desertedvillage.bandcamp.com/album/for-tom-carter

Ninety-nine performers. Go nuts.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 August 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

wow, I will buy that as soon as I get home, thanks Ned

sleeve, Monday, 12 August 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link

whoah. that line-up gives me excellent terrastock flashbacks

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 12 August 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

tom's new one numinal entry is lovely

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

Man Tom has been on a crazy roll this year. I cannot wait to hear that new solo LP.

grandavis, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

This Tom Carter + Helena Espvall collaboration is so, so good.

cwkiii, Sunday, 5 October 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Tom Carter totally opening up a universe of sound both solo + in a trio with Chris Corsano (!!!) and Carter Thornton here:

http://www.nyctaper.com/2015/12/tom-carter-chris-corsano-carter-thornton-december-5-2015-trans-pecos-solo-and-trio-sets/

I mean Tom's new record on Three Lobed is heavy as hell and just gorgeous, but live he is just knocking it out of the park these days.

grandavis, Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

Man, Tom's solo set is so good. Damn:

https://soundcloud.com/acidjacknyc/sets/tom-carter-live-at-trans-pecos-2015

grandavis, Thursday, 10 December 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

picked up two vinyl reissues of 2007 cd-rs of 90s material at the (mind boggling) show last night--glowing raw and strangle the wretched heavens, on drawing room records. very attractive, sound great so far.

adam, Monday, 7 March 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link

those are both great, I have the CDr versions. Emerald Message is v good as well imo.

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Monday, 7 March 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link

is there a tour or was this a one-off show?

ryan, Monday, 7 March 2016 15:31 (eight years ago) link

just a one off for now looks like. tom playing a couple dates soon, another in nyc and one in MA

adam, Monday, 7 March 2016 15:54 (eight years ago) link

Hope someone recorded that Charalambides show, would love to hear it.

grandavis, Monday, 7 March 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

looks like they're playing at the Empty Bottle in Chicago and with The Renderers in LA later this summer! too far away but jeez.

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Seen this on Twitter a couple of times recently - new Bandcamp page https://charalambides.bandcamp.com/releases

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

huh all I see there at the moment is one album? would love to hear the earlier batch of CDRs, I don't know some of them

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

Aye. Assume they'll gradually populate it? Hope so.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

The Charalambides page only went online two days ago or so; Tom has been gradually populating his own Bandcamp page for a while now, so yes, there'll be more.

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

excellent news

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

four more albums up now, just in time for the Bandcamp sale!

sleeve, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

oh hey cool, vinyl versions of some CDRs - I really liked these two in particular

https://drawingroomrecords.bandcamp.com/album/strangle-glowing-raw-2-album-set

sleeve, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Tom Carter has launched a yearly subscription

https://tomcarterguitar.bandcamp.com/subscribe

Dinsdale, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

oh my god

https://charalambides.bandcamp.com/album/charalambides-tom-and-christina-carter

sleeve, Monday, 20 August 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

What you do for money, what you do for rent _ take a look inside, are you all that’s spent

Ross, Monday, 20 August 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

xpost Marvelous album, already gave it an ear.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 August 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

tom carter subscription is a good time (though not the sheer onslaught of music that is the kevin drumm subscription)

adam, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

Cor! And they're playing Cafe Oto in November...

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 20 August 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

Oh man I hope I get to catch a date on this tour. Playing with Loren Connors in NYC, but unfortunately do not think I am gonna get to that one.

grandavis, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

aw man, no West coast dates at all.

sleeve, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

Tom Carter subscription essential for anyone that bookmarks this thread. The recent track with Susan Alcorn is great.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 06:05 (five years ago) link

yes! i would listen to a quadruple lp of that vibe

adam, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

Burner of a solo show from Tom last night at Union Pool in Brooklyn. There's an instagram video at https://www.instagram.com/p/BnEODCnFNSQ/

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 30 August 2018 04:11 (five years ago) link

Tom is operating on a very high level solo right now. I can't even really tell how he does it, just masterful tone wrangling.

grandavis, Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

yeah it's the tone, I agree but can't explain it any better than you.

I really need that double LP from a few years back

sleeve, Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

It is a wonderful record. I just jammed it a couple of weeks ago.

grandavis, Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Just discovered them live at their gig last night, truly remarkable music. got their last record, Exile, Tom seems like a real nice dude.

They used to be three?

Van Horn Street, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link

They've just been a duo for a while now, since A Vintage Burden or even earlier. Exile is amazing, enjoy.

probably my favorite band of the 2000s

sleeve, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

Their new album is in the mail to me right now, can't wait. I just got the Bandcamp download today, so I get to listen tonight.

sleeve, Friday, 12 October 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

missed the nyc show last weekend but am ready for the new record. i sprung for the bonus cassette too

adam, Friday, 12 October 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link

looks like the cassette is not included in the download, fwiw. listening for the first time now, about to get on the living room couch and give it my full attention.

sleeve, Saturday, 13 October 2018 00:02 (five years ago) link

This is wonderfully mellow so far.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 13 October 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link

agreed except i just listened to side B at 78rpm accidentally and i thought dang this is wild

adam, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link


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