The New Standards

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Which pop songs from the last 20 years or so have become (or are on their way to becoming) "standards"? Or has the term lost all meaning? If it's dead, who killed the Standard?

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

"The Greatest Love of All" -- performed at Every Wedding, Talent Show, and Singing Audition Ever.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Although I don't know if that counts, since the original was done in the '70s.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

It became a Standard in the last 20 years, so yeah.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Really it's anything that's had a few cover versions?

"Number One", "Cars", "Tainted Love", "I Feel Love"


phil jones (interstar), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, "Tainted Love" is from the '60s. I think a Standard should not only be recorded many times, but become well known in a few different contexts. Did "Cars" or "I Feel Love" make any real impact aside from their original versions?

"The Greatest Love of All" works b/c the song took on a life of its own, and really does crop up on places where "Yesterday" or "Bridge Over Troubled Water" would have 25 years ago (High School choir recitals, etc.)

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

"New York, New York" just misses the cut but it’s only 25 years old, no?

scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

"We are the World" is pretty much sung to annoy anyone in the room, at any given time.

"Maneater" is a common song sung about relationship problems.

"The Final Countdown" by Europe is similar to the first song in nature.

well, i suppose in my reality, these are the new standards.

gage o (gage o), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

"The Wind Beneath My Wings"
"Heaven" (Bryan Adams)

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Wonderful Tonight" aggh

Tom (Groke), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did "Cars" or "I Feel Love" make any real impact aside from their original versions?

I don't remember either version ever being covered, and I don't think the songs are that significant outside of the usual circles of disco/synth nostalgiacs (e.g. bridge & tunnel brats who dance at Polly Esther's) and/or people who closely follow the history of pop music.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 December 2002 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Smells Like Teen Spirit" (Abigail, Moog Cookbook, dsico, Tori Amos, Moulin Rogue)

scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 30 December 2002 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

(rouge)

scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 30 December 2002 15:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's from the '70s so it shouldn't count, but punk bands are fond of covering "Blitzkrieg Bop."

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 December 2002 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

How about "Gin 'n' Juice"? There's the Gourds, Sissy Bar, and at least a couple of other artists...

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 December 2002 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

i thought "standards" were pop songs covered by jazzbos, ie warne marsh doing "the way you look tonight" or more recently miles davis covered that scritti politti song

maybe instrumental abstraction of original makes the original a standard and maybe the addition of vocals counts (if they're used instrumentally) so to use another numan example, 'freak like me' wouldn't count, but that's a ripp off which probably counts more than someone merely covering and resinging

but then the replicants only do covers of well-known songs, so maybe they believe they're the new interpreters, but to me that's just their angle, even if the songs they covered could be called 'classics' (again, does numan represent classic or oddity?)

yeah i think cats wigging out on pop songs (standards) is different to covers bands using songs that will work for a pub audience (covers)

george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 30 December 2002 15:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Herbie Hancock did a version of "Smells Like Teen Spirit"...if anything is a 'standard' these days, it's that song.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 December 2002 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Baby, One More Time" has been covered over and over again in just the last 4 years. But is it old enough to be considered a standard yet?

paul cox (paul cox), Monday, 30 December 2002 15:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

It misses the deadline for the thread, but "Baby, I Love Your Way" is creeping up the cover version charts, and is threatening to overtake "Yesterday".

dleone (dleone), Monday, 30 December 2002 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is an interesting thread. "Baby, One More Time" and "I Try" are definite future standards.

Adam A. (Keiko), Monday, 30 December 2002 18:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I Will Survive"

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 02:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Terrifying thought but I read Celine Dion 'My Heart Will Go On' is a popular choice at Dutch funerals.

stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 03:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
This thread deserves another look.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

what's scary is probably the most Standardized band lately (if we're going by george gosset's standards, which i agree with) is Radiohead

JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Mark are you trolling for material on a piece about standards today, or what?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

Surprised this thread fizzled out. Anyway, I was thinking of Kool & the Gang's "Celebration," which was 1980 but still inconceivable at this point as anything other than a ubiquitous popular standard that you always hear at public events and, well, celebrations. What else has had its wedding band status solidified in the past couple of decades? I have a hunch "Uptown Funk" will stick around for parties and cover bands. I heard a cover band play it in a park the other day and the crowd immediately perked up and started dancing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 June 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link


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