Battle of the glamstomp queens: Joan Jett vs Suzi Quatro

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Doesnt Suzi Quatro present a show on Radio 2? or is it Radio 4?

I'd go for Joan Jett but I havent heard too much Suzi Quatro stuff.

Michael Bourke, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Suzi Quatro is still alive?? I thought she was dead.

Ally, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

SuzyQ has two great songs: Joan Jett has 222 (I didn't count) + the greatest croak in rock bar none. I kinda fancied Suzy somewhat when I was 13: she still has a nice smile. Since I saw the photo of JJ on the back of the Runaways first LP in 1978, I have been her, to the soul of my soul, a meaningless, stupid, enraptured identification with — what? Absolute lonely dissatisfaction: something like that. The other four Runaways pictured — four happy Cali-trash chancers — want fun-love-money, dancing, fame, boys: the usual, bah. JJ's pic is grainy, almost black and white, and she gazes west out of Foley's tacky rubbish-world, pensive and sour, towards the icy end of all division, and of everything else. Julie Burchill had a phrase, in a piece on Joan Jett now 24 years yellow and tattered: "beyond gender trivia..." I haven't the slightest idea at this distance what JB thought she mean by it: I know exactly — impossibly — what I took it to mean: the change in the world which would never be, and had to be. This is mad, but that doesn't mean I didn't feel it, or that I can quite escape the shape it made me.

It's just a picture. Maybe she had tummyache.

mark s, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

But the Runaways? Identifying with Joan Jett in that context is complex, it's like identifying with . . . a member of the Monkees . . . those girls barely even existed. Kim Fowley made them up; it would be great to have been him rather than them. He said that they needed to be tough on stage and during their practise sessions would throw things at them . . . he was Joan Jett!

So what, I guess! I loved Morten Harkett (Aha - remember?) when I was 12 - he was my formative experience.

Maybe there aren't any Natural girls in rock because rock isn't real for girls . . . they aren't raised to sneer and adopt some kind of Nietzschean ultra self (as embodied in Iggy Pop or whoever) - so maybe my implicit suggestion that we should search for a 'real' female rock figure is misguided.

Maryann, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

you know what tho', maybe the way things went for the runaways wasn't that atypical for a young rock band at that time (or any time?) (in that part of the world anyway). i mean the exploito angle is only the famous thing about em 'cause they were teenage gurlz & he was *the famous con-man Kim Fowley*. Joan Jett wtd. pretty bad to be a rock star, prob'ly woulda done it with or without...

duane zarakov, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Joan Jett bar-none. Hell, Lita Ford over Suzi Quatro.

JM, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Joan Jett. First album is a knockout, especially with tbe bonus tracks. She loves Tommy James and she loves Rock and Roll and she loves Gary Glitter and you don't own her. Also, her cover of Everyday People. The best thing to happen to gender in rock, ever.

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Joan Jett - icon, role model, great tunes, legend, but Suzi Quatro had a better ass.

tarden, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

"Glamstomp queens" = cool phrase. Quatro is fully gone from memory so Jett wins by default and, yeah, wins anyway. "I Love Rock'n'Roll" is, fuck, not many people have a single that good. Lita Ford had a good arse, too (I believe it was the "featured performer" in most of her outfits) and beats Jett from 1987 through 1990's Stiletto (better than Jett's The Hit List shocker from that year; someone mic the fucking guitars!). Lita's "Back To the Cave" vies with "I Love Rock'n'Roll" as best thing ever by anyone associated with the Runaways, including Fowley, anything he's touched and, err, lots of stuff I've never heard. Jett easily beats the Bangles (band w/ bass player from Runaways) who I did kinda like, "Hazy Shade of Winter" anyway. Jett also = coolest eye-shadow in rock.

AP, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Joan Jett as well for me, based on the omnipresent and utterly glorious "I Love Rock and Roll" (everywhere on the radio by the time I got my first actual radio) and her pretty damn cool show I saw her do in 1988. Though Suzi did have a great moment in one _AbFab_ episode as the nurse Edina hallucinates. "I'm from Detroit and I don't mess around! Now waddaya need, sex, drugs, rock and roll?" Don't remember her from _Happy Days_ at all, though.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Suzy Q played 'Leather Tuscadero' - sounds like a member of the Revolting Cocks - a hard-rockin', female version of The Fonz (surprise!) Pretty tepid stuff sadly, as is Suzy's Radio 2 show (lots of pointless anecdotes about meeting B.B. King or whoever backstage at a Detroit show in early seventies when Suzy ruled the world etc. etc. Cue next record chosen by the producers...) Still, Chuck Eddy is right to rave about 'Primitive Love' from the 'Can the Can' alb (73) - Jungle-Stomp!

Andrew L, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Funny you should mention "Hazy Shade of Winter" coz I have that 7" (From some soundtrack or another) and who should be on the flipside but Joan Jett? And guess which side rocks harder? Right!

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

That would be from the "LESS THAN ZERO" soundtrack, where Robert Downey Jr commits his private life to film.

I will always love "Hazy Shade Of Winter", if only because the extended version has a 20 second bongo solo stuck in the middle of it. Joan Jett may rock harder, but I've never heard her fuck up some bongos!

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I think actually seeing _Less Than Zero_ these days would be amusing. Especially how they tried to turn it into an anti-drug tale. They did get one thing right, though -- film the flashbacks in black and white, which is always how I envisioned it.

My first CD purchase, after our family got a CD player in early 1988, was in fact the soundtrack to said film. Interesting way to get introduced to Public Enemy, Poison and Slayer all at once.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
If I had to choose between Joan and Suzie as which was the queen, I'd say suzie. Here is why. Suzie started in a group called the Pleasure seekers. They did a song called What a way to die. Folks, hands down, do your self a big favor and buy a comp with this song on it. It says everything. The runaways, Joan Jett etc. never matched this yet, but you have to admire Joan Jett. I mean God bless Joan Jett. It is sad to see Suzie as a plumper and Joan with a bald head, but this is my opinion, and rock on!!!

Julie Prescott, Tuesday, 14 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Suzi Quatro and the Pleasure Seekers RULE over the Runaways, Joan Jett, and Kim Fowley (he's full of crap and always has been!). "WHAT A WAY TO DIE" has got to be the best song by an all-girl band ever! And they were kickin' it out long before Joan Jett ever picked up a guitar.

Little Richard, Wednesday, 15 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I have met both of them and seen Joan Jett live too, but SUZI is the one! You know Joan used to be Suzis biggest fan from U.S.A. years ago and she imitates all Suzis live style. regards Harri from FINLAND

Harri Asikainen, Sunday, 4 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

But do you prefer Leather Tuscadero -or- Michael J Fox's sister?

Dave225, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Suzy Quatro is very much alive & well. She lives near us & her kids go to the same school as my son Stephen.

Daytona Demon, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Yeah,I just remembered that bit in the Barney Hoskyns book Glam! which mentions the Suzi Quatro poster that got stolen from the English Disco in LA by one Joan Jett.Is Joan Jett her real name?

Damian, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Actually, Jett is her real last name. It's her mother's maiden name. She changed it from Larkin when she joined the Runaways. Although Joan is my #1 riot grrl, I sometimes wonder if the others, Joan included, would have had the exposure they experienced had it not been for Suzy to cut the path for them. My favorite Suzy Q album is called simply: Quatro. It was her first solo as far as I know and was produced in 1974 by Bell Records. Yup, I've got one.

Larry, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

"Suzy Quatro" aka "Can the Can" was actually first by one year. I thought it was her second. Whoops

Larry, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I am in shock that I didn't answer this question origianlly! Suzi Quatro is killer, both her first two albums are brilliant; not just hard rocking, but amaaing, catchy songs all the way through. I played her all the time when I used to DJ. The Best Of on Razor and Tie is the one to get if you're only gonna get one; plus it has a few non-lp singles that are just astonishing. Search: Daytona Demon. Plus, I met my ex online cuz he had the screen name Pinky Tuscadero. *cries*

Mmmm, but yeah, as an overall career, Joan Jett's better. Search: Fake Friends.

Sean, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Suzi Quatro, all the way. Never heard much from Jett, but Suzi had the power of Chinn and Chapman behind her. Even the funk record "Your Mama Won't Like Me" still brings me a few smiles. Suzi's the best music to play in a bar.

Brian MacDonald, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

My fav is "Wiser Than You"- nice riff at the end The album "Quatro" has some great songs on both sides

Larry, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
Suzi Quatro is the winner, the real Queen Of Rock. Just seen her live in Germany last week , the Bitch is Back......look out

New Album release in March 2002

Rocker, Sunday, 2 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

jocelyn howe, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Suzi all the way. What a bassist.

electric sound of jim, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
Without Suzi, there would have been no Joan, obviously. That said, you have to look at the big picture. Suzi had those first two albums, Glam Pop classics, but never really went beyond them.

Joan had the Runaways, who, despite circumstances, managed to be groundbreaking, and still influential all these years later. She then had her 80s hit making years, and was sort of the den mother of the riot grrl schene in the 90s. Plus, she has the distinction of producing the Germs classic first album, and Bikini Kill's best single.

Eric Bailey, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...
Suzi Quatro and Joan Jett should both be admired for there guts. there aren't any girl rockers around like then two. I would absolutely pay anything to see the two of them do a recording would blow the charts and teach some of todays teeny boppers a lesson on how to really rock.

allan, Monday, 9 December 2002 14:26 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

with me it's a gener''i'' thing, admittedly

t\'\'t (t''t), Monday, 9 December 2002 15:28 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Suzi Quatro is still very popular in Europe and she is on the road all over the year. I saw her a couple of weeks ago and she still rocks the house like just a few others can. And mind you her audience are not squealing teenagers who swoon at the sheer sight of their idol. She sure can create that magic Rock'n'Roll feeling and she certainly does not run out of hits and excellent song material old and new. And above all she is a fantastic musician and the hell of a good bass player. And for Americans I would like to add that Suzi is not at all well projected by that Happy Days character she played. Suzi is a performer of unbelievable intensity and emotion. She is my all time favourite! Joan Jett is no longer heard of this side of the Atlantic but I do like "I love Rock'n'Roll".

Hans Peter Bauböck, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:24 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Suzi all the way. Joan Jett is not a patch on her. Joan Jett had one good single I LOVE ROCK AND ROLL, which so sounds like Suzi it cancels out eh?

Suzi to me is all growl, stomp, and plays no victim. In fact, if you want the blueprint for a Gay rockstar [not the disco bunny, emtional histronics of the Pet Shop Boys or Jimmy Sommerville, don't even think Melissa Etheridge] Suzi is it.

Rock Hard!

Tony Nicholas, Saturday, 14 December 2002 12:17 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I still think what i said above. Seach: Suzi's first two album covers--wow! She's amazing. But Joan still gets the nod. Luckily I don't have to make such a decision... I play 'em both!

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 14 December 2002 22:37 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Who is Jett? Is it a name?

VIK, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 23:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Joan wins w/longevity points. Suzi, however, ROCKED those leather pants.

matt riedl (veal), Monday, 3 February 2003 21:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I love them both, but I'd say Suzi wins 'cuz she did it first (and I *love* a good Chinn/Chapman choon!)

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 3 February 2003 23:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
Suzi Q still has it !!! svelt sexy and sassy, we saw her last year play to a full capacity audiance. In a skin tight lycra outfit...still stompin'screamin' and havin a ball on stage..@ 53 she's got IT

nev c, Sunday, 25 January 2004 06:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i'm going with suzi too, though i love em both heaps

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Sunday, 25 January 2004 07:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...
Is this discussion still alive?...

In case a visual impression might be useful here (what with a picture saying more than 1000 words...), I'm showing some fairly recent photos of Suzi Q on my website,

Gunta Andressen, Sunday, 21 November 2004 00:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Can't say, cos haven't heard enough Suzi (Sherilyn Fenn, of "Twin Peaks", is her niece! But don't know if the mother is the one who was in Fanny, who should be remembered dammit, at least for CHARITY BALL, in what, '74? '73?! Also, they had a brother Mike, who had the Mike Quatro Jam Band in early 70s. Never heard it, but he looks kind of like first-album Jim Morrison). Joan and Suzi should tour together, even if they weren't on stage at the same time (like Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth), or were but didn't acknowledge each other's presence (like Brooks & Dunn). Jett is her mother's maiden name? Wonder if she's kin to Bobbie Jett, mother of Hank Williams'(legally acknowledged)singin' daughter (see Anybody who likes Joan and/or Suzi should check Texas Terri Bomb!('s) YOUR LIPS...MY ASS! (despite the title)

don, Sunday, 21 November 2004 07:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Why would you want to choose?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 21 November 2004 08:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Suzi was the first and the best. Joan Jett is a copycat, hell her biggest hit, I love rock and roll, isn't even her song, it was done by the Arrows back in the mid 70's, and most of her other songs are old Gary Glitter tunes.
Go out and buy the old Suzi Q albums ( Can the Can, Quatro, Your Momma Won't like me, Suzi and other four letter words and rock Hard are the best ones to get), sit back and listen to real, raw pub rock, Suzi is a legend, the first female queen of rock, joan jett is a pretender

changa, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 04:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

In terms of hard rock, Joan Jett made better albums and more of them. Only the first two Suzi Quatro records kick up much hard rock dust.

"Can the Can" was the high point for that sound, as electrocuted and hysterical as Quatro got. However, it is unfair to compare her with Joan Jett who, as far as I can remember, always said she drew from Suzi. By dint of the advance of time, she sounds harder by default. Had she been making records at the same time Suzi Quatro started, it's quite likely she wouldn't have sounded any heavier.

Suzi Quatro did go out with early Aerosmith in the US and her band would have to have been pretty tough-sounding in person to compete.

After "Suzi Quatro" and "Quatro," the records went notably soft and I lost interest. She and her band could do nice rockabilly and thumping boogie but the only songs I come back to for their oomph are "Devil Gate Drive," "48 Crash" and "Can the Can." "The Wild One's" good for nostalgia, too.

Good ear, Don, re Texas Terri. Usually, everyone is so obsessed with calling her the female Iggy Stooge, they miss the better complement
to SQ and JJ, which connote tunefulness and a certain swing.

George Smith, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 06:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Terri's more of a tunester than Ig, and having Jack Douglas as producer probably doesn't hurt (plus her Tinsteltown underdog musos). As Frank Kogan said of her previous album, it's also kind of like Johnny Thunders' Heartbreakers (*if* they were ever wound this tight, I'd qualify)

don, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 07:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Kim Fowley would love this lot (perhaps). Heard it on John Peel.

6060842, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Not bad. "Knuckles" on drums. I can get behind that. Fowley'd insist the bald guy be dumped, though.

George Smith, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 21:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
Hello Suzi Quatro
My name is Kristina,i am from Sydney.I am nine years old and l am fan for you.Love 48 crash.if you can't give me love and heaps of other songs.When you came this year you were at Hornsby RSL and l live in Mount Colah so l told my parents and they rang up and they said that children could not come so l was a little up set.I became one of your fans when my dad put one of your songs then l liked it so much and so then l kept putting your songs on.I would like to tell you that if you can send one of your photo's so l know how you look like.That would be nice.So when you get this letter please write back to me.Bye Love Kristina

Kristina Duchon, Sunday, 31 July 2005 02:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
Well what can one say, I think Joan Jett has a bigger profile than Suzi in the sense of more websites, that is only in the states though. As an artist Joan is good, but Suzi Quatro is undoubtebly the more classier entertainer. Suzi has rocked the world since 1973, and has had hit after hit until 1980 where it unfortunately slowed right down.

Suzi's albums like Suzi Quatro (can the can Australia/NZ)Quatro, Your mama won't like me, Suzi and other four letter words, Rock Hard and the new album out this year 2006 Back to the drive thru EMI are all great albums.

Joan unfortunately did not have as many hits as Suzi, but to give the girl credit she is still rockin and keeping people happy the same as Suzi is doing.

But all in all Joan Jett was obsessed with Suzi Quatro when she saw her in Japan in 1975 and wanted to be just like her.

Scotty, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 06:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
i think suzi quatro is great havent heard much joan jett but im guna go get some of her music asap. Suzi Quatro rocks shes the greatest leather clad woman in rock!!!

Sugar Karis, Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Suzi Quatro Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XxX anyone who is a fan of suzi feel free to email me x

Sugar Karis, Thursday, 4 May 2006 11:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

four years pass...


The Beatles are not pizza!!! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 4 July 2010 13:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

todays treats :

suzi quatro - debut cd + bonus tracks
the runaways - debut + queens of noise.

going to be a great weekend.

mark e, Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:40 (two years ago) Permalink

Fer sure.

I way prefer Suzi to solo Joan, fwiw, but Joan is still great.

Lisa Welchel's Madcap Macrame Adventure for Windows 2000 (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:44 (two years ago) Permalink

I've tried for years and years to really get into Suzi Quatro, but apart from a few songs early in her career, there's not really much there there.

Loving Joan is effortless.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:08 (two years ago) Permalink

i only got suzi qs debut which is the one that has the classic early stuff on - loving what i have heard.

very rarely see any joan jett albums on cds in the racks these days.

mark e, Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:21 (two years ago) Permalink

Joan Jett is a copycat, hell her biggest hit, I love rock and roll, isn't even her song, it was done by the Arrows back in the mid 70's, and most of her other songs are old Gary Glitter tunes.

Some Jett-slamming from 11 years ago, but Bad Reputation really opened my eyes to Gary Glitter, Lesley Gore, Wind (!). That record is a fantastic bubblepunk hit parade.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 15:50 (two years ago) Permalink

^ Yeah that was an odd point to make in Quatro's favor since Jett wrote/co-wrote "Bad Reputation," "Fake Friends," "The French Song," plus of course "Cherry Bomb" and several other great Runaways songs whereas Quatro I don't think has ever written a hit song

Josefa, Thursday, 25 February 2016 16:18 (two years ago) Permalink

if a song is covered by joan jett it's a demo imo

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 25 February 2016 16:23 (two years ago) Permalink

She wrote loads of b-sides though, xpost

Mark G, Thursday, 25 February 2016 16:47 (two years ago) Permalink

Suzi Quatro, easily.

The Dave Grohl of ILX (Turrican), Friday, 26 February 2016 21:35 (two years ago) Permalink

having listened to the three albums (2 runnaways, 1 quatro) i aint so sure

mark e, Friday, 26 February 2016 21:50 (two years ago) Permalink

joan jett, easily. this is one of my favorite album cover photos, though:

lute bro (brimstead), Saturday, 27 February 2016 00:22 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

what is going on in the lyrics for "can the can"?

Well you call your mamma tiger
And we all know you are lying
And your boyfriend's name is eagle
And he lives up in the sky (high high)
Watch out the tiger don't go claw the eagle's eye
But let the eagle take the tiger by surprise
Scratch out her eyes

So make a stand for your man, honey
Try to can the can
Put your man in the can, honey
Get him while you can
Can the can
Can the can
If you can
Well can the can

Well your sister's got the feline touch, she touches up your mind
And your eagle lover likes his little bit of evil loving all the time
Don't let the cat get into the eagle's nest at night
Because the eagle could say "yes" without a fight
Scratch out her eyes

So make a stand for your man, honey
Try to can the can
Put your man in the can, honey
Get him while you can
Can the can Can the can
If you can
Well can the can

Ooh can the can (Can the can honey)
Ooh can the can (Can the can honey)
Uh uh can the can (Can the can honey)
Ooh can the can (Can the can honey)
Ooh can the can (Can the can honey)
Ooh can the can (Can the can honey)
Honey, honey
Honey, honey, honey
Make a stand for your man, honey
Try to can the can
Put your man in the can, honey
Get him while you can
Can the can
Can the can
If you can
Make a stand for your man, honey
Try to can the can
Put your man in the can, honey
Get him while you can
Can the can
Can the can
If you can
Make a stand for your man

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 09:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Heart the random googlers from the past. Who is Jett? Is it a name?, indeed.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 23:13 (one year ago) Permalink

hello michael b!

i... don't know

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 December 2017 11:40 (one year ago) Permalink

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