Most irritating cliche/phrase/expression

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What are people saying over and over again that is driving a craw up your ass?

― Calamari, Monday, 6 January 2003 20:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

sorry seems to be...

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

my favorite cliche/phrase/expression is "driving a craw up your ass."

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Describing some sort've artistic advancement as "taking things to a whole`nother level!" has *GOT* to fuckin' stop.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

my favorite cliche/phrase/expression is "driving a craw up your ass."
Yeah, I'm adding that to my vocabulary, right next to "Grabasstic!"

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Alex, you watch too much VH1's 100 Greatest ______ ....

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Describing some sort've artistic advancement as "taking things to a whole`nother level!" has *GOT* to fuckin' stop.
Emeril Legasse to thread...

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

"And just like that ..."
It's used at least once in the narration for every frigging episode of "Sex In the City."

Not that I ever watch that show.

― Jim M (jmcgaw), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

You're right, dave.

That, and their overuse of "diva," "booty" and "mojo." All three words need to be swiftly retired.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, there's lots...

"...go ahead and..." (as in "Can I just go ahead and clear these plates out of your way?")

"Enlighten me" (I posted this on another thread: "It sounds so passive-aggressive, as if they're saying 'I'm second-guessing that you think I'm really ignorant, and you're obviously much smarter than I am, oh ho ho, so please, oh wise one, share your bounty of knowledge.' Why does a request for information have to be so loaded with cynicism?")

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

But how will they explain J.lo if they can't say that her mojo is in her diva booty?

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Push the envelope" or "pushing the envelope." Not quite as au courant as "'nother level," but it makes me want to take that envelope (whatever that means)and push it up the speaker/writer's ass.

― Lee G (Lee G), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

in a work context: "how easy would it be to [insert time-consuming yet brainless task here]" - yes, mr mcgillicuddy, counting this tractor-trailer full of ball-bearings is a job any fool could do - it will be done by lunchtime!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

The prefix uber- is quite irritating.

― jot eff pe, Monday, 6 January 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmmm. Interesting point. On the other hand, I've never heard anyone ever use unter- in a review.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

What about Richie Unterberger?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Avril is the current Queen Of Cliche it would seem, all that crap about 'i'm so lucky that i get to do what i do and show the world how i feel about stuff and touch the fans with my music' - shut the fuck up harpy!

also, award winners who thank God (how the fuck do you know he wanted you to win?!)

also, DJs who like to take people 'on a journey'

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

also, award winners who thank God (how the fuck do you know he wanted you to win?!)
Yeah, you'd think somebody...anybody...would thank Satan for a change.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

"the best band/DJ/album/MIDI/rapper/subwoofer/singing saw you've never heard"

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's a free country.
In my humble opinion.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

I find the word 'abstract' to be especially annoying in music writing.

And 'cinematic' is a close second.

― Arjun Mendiratta (arjun), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

"keepin' it real"
"Knowhum'sayin'?"
"I ain't feelin' ______ [insert object of derision here]"
"Holla!"

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

"recent events" (i.e., Sept 11, 2001)

"you can't tell me not to [x]"

― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

"A soundtrack for an imaginary movie" for every dowtempo crappy record..

― snowballing, Monday, 6 January 2003 21:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

This isn't really a music-related cliche, but simillar to Amateurist's message, I'm really tired of people referring to September 11, 2001 as "Nine Eleven". I don't know why it bugs me. Why do we (or perhaps the media) feel the need to make a catchy soundbyte out of it?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes there is something about "nine eleven" that seems to distance the event, make it this thing that happened and is over and done with, everyone knows why it happened and what we have to do about it.

I can't stand it when something is referred to as a "soundscape." (Reminds me of when people say a film is "like a painting.") Does this just mean, little melody evident? Many overdubs? What?

― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Horny middle-aged people talking about getting "a lil' sumpin' sumpin'". God, what a turnoff.

― Arthur (Arthur), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

incendiary, as when articles on newer acts start off by telling me that band x have "built their reputation on a series of incendiary live gigs." (and not to be a nitpicking weenie, but aren't gigs by definition live?)

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 6 January 2003 22:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Arthur, what if the object of their desire is a midget named Sumpin Sumpin? Hmm, that didn't help at all.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 January 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

You could have a studio gig.

a midget named Sumpin Sumpin

Shit, where did you get David Lynch's new script?!

― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 6 January 2003 23:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

"if you don't like it, don't listen to it"

― Evan (Evan), Monday, 6 January 2003 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Jesus Christ, you are hot. Can I sleep with you?"

Gets so old.

― Trip Fontaine, Monday, 6 January 2003 23:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

"your mileage may vary" was useful for a while but is now completely burnt out.

― Aaron A., Monday, 6 January 2003 23:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

'Nuff said! AARRGH.

― original bgm, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 00:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

"The value of your ______ can go down as well as up"

― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 00:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ladies leave yo man at home
The club is full of ballas and
They pockets full grown
And all you fellas leave yo girl
With her friends
Cause its 11:30 and
we're chasin' Sumpin Sumpin

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 00:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

i've said these before but i can't stand the overuse of:

"basically"

and

"to be honest with you".

― michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

"You know?" = AARRGGGGHHH!

― El Jefe (js williams), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

I remember someone on one of the dance messageboards I read was moaning about DJs "taking the crowd on a journey" as opposed to "just lashing it out". I kinda think it's ok to use the phrase, the fact that dance is often so deintellectualised makes it an easier target. I do think the two things above are just different peoples ways of describing their fun, I've seen people describe a shit set by saying "oh he was into this taking the crowd on a journey" crap. The problem is there's so much pr fluff (maybe needs scare quotes, but it genuinely is PR FLUFF) in the magazines that all these phrases are joined together and so you get "clubbing experience of a lifetime as Sasha takes the crowd on a journey".

I do hate "clubbing experience", it's always used for those massive trance arena (barn) dances that are on in Dublin like Gods Kitchen 2003 or whatever.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh God, where to begin? There are days when I want to flush the entire English language down the commode just so people will finally quit torturing it.

My most hated phrase: "Just wanted to touch base with you."

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

'If you don't like it you don't have to listen to it' and all its variants are the spawn of hell. If all the TV channels in the world changed their output to permanent 24 hour slow motion replays of the World Shitting Into A Cup Championships there'd still be some fucker saying 'well nobody's forcing you to watch!' Also I think I've mentioned 'A (positive premodifying adjective) (object of derision)? Snort. Surely that's an oxymoron.' as well. Gah.

― Ferg (Ferg), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 11:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Groundbreaking" when applied to anything besides shovels. "Positive" when applied to anything except sub-atomic particles (maybe "chaos" should go be in that category too). "Boring" when applied to anything besides huge fucking drills, when used by anyone who's dumber than me

― dave q, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 11:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

The way some people (not any of YOU guys of course...) abbreviate first names when casually referring to someone is starting to get on my nerves. I hate anything that looks like an in-joke but isn't really.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 11:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey, just! did you leave the key under the mat? hurhur.

― michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 11:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Prefixing the word "so" in front of some other stupid bit of nonsense:
I am "so" gonna kick your ass!
You are "so" not going to get any booty tonight!

Keep it real; keepin' it real

Peace out!

Cutting edge.... especially when something is "so" not cutting edge.

― Blackmarket Tarbaby, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 12:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

(and not to be a nitpicking weenie, but aren't gigs by definition live?)
Welll, gigs by a band fronted by Jerry Garcia were called "Dead Gigs...."

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you watch a lot of TV or hang around in malls, you'll soon discover that a lot of overfed, middle-aged, suburban women say "Fabulous" a lot. I fuckin' hate that. It used to just be a gay thing - it was cute then.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

'Nuff said! AARRGH.
Yes. This only works if you end the review with the phrase "Exselsior! True Believers!"
My most hated phrase: "Just wanted to touch base with you."
Just wait until music reviewers start trying to "maximize their synergies and empower their client base."
Prefixing the word "so" in front of some other stupid bit of nonsense:
They are sooooooo much more irritating when they add extra o's to it.

Also, I'm amazed no-one has mentioned "n'est pas?" to this list. Ick.
I think they need to add "Grabastic" to their vocabulary. For a week. No more than a week. After that, I wouldn't be "cute" anymore.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

"n'est pas?"

n'est-ce pas, even.

― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Argh.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 13:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

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Jody's right about "overrated."

There's a recent trend in speaking where people say questions directed at themselves out loud and then answer them. "Did I expect Justin's solo record to suck? Basically. Did I love it anyway? Absolutely ."

It's not the most irritating verbal mannerism, but it is kind of annoying.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 07:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jody's right about "overrated."

See, I don't think "overrated" has to be a criticism. I can acknowledge that the Strokes are overrated (they are -- I mean, they just are, and there's no way in hell they could have been as earthshatteringly good as the critics/publicists promised), while still admitting that I enjoy Is This It. "Overrated" isn't really about the quality of the music; it's about a lot of external factors that rightfully shouldn't get in the way of your relationship with a record.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 09:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hate underrated much more than overrated. Underrated just sounds so clever-clever.

But my hatred of both is as naught (argh) compared with that of (argh) "deplaning" and my current bugbear "personal belongings".

― Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hate "overrated" because who knows where this "rating" is coming from, someones friends? Their big brother? Their dad? It also implies there is some fixed rating of something out there somewhere and that's lame too. There is no way it can be used properly unless someone says "overrated by the NME/those fatcats on ILM/whatever"

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

JBR that is grebt! "This potato chip is one of the most effective chips I've had the pleasure of ingesting." Either a parody of upper-class britishisms or a ROBOT!
Yes: Chippy, the Pringlebot 3000 is working within established parameters.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree that "overrated" is a pretty lame criticism. In the first place, it's not your reaction to something at all, it's a reaction to other people's reactions to it. Which is fine, but come out and say so: don't take your resentment of, uh, Q magazine and their ten "The 100 Greatest Things EVER!!!" lists a year out on some poor album.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Two words: two words.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah it sucks if its not immediately followed by:
"...I think you hear Tom knockin, and I think he's comin in...OOOOKaY!"

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 20:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

_____ is the new ______.

_____ is back!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 20:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Has anyone gotten sick of "All Your Bass Are Belong to Us" yet?

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 20:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

If they're gonna do a "Zero Wing" joke why not go "Release Album...for Great Justice!" while they're at it?

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who in this bitch likes the California Razizans?

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I was flipping through the channels when I came across (insert television show person is too embarassed to say he/she watches regularly.)"

― Mentiroso, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON.

Expressions like:
One beer short of a six-pack!
The light's on but no one's home.
He's not the sharpest knife in the kitchen.
He's not the brightest bulb in the house.

Using the word "gay" to mean uncool.

Using the word "fag" to describe a person as uncool.

Throwing your arms and/or legs out and/or making contortionist quality hand gestures every time your lips move ala RAP artists/hood rats, especially when the closest you've been to the hood is when you watch re-runs of YO! MTv RAPS.

Lame metal bands thinking acoustic sets of their horrible songs will make those songs somehow sound better.

― SWORDFISH, Thursday, 9 January 2003 00:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Throwing your arms and/or legs out and/or making contortionist quality hand gestures every time your lips move ala RAP artists/hood
rats, especially when the closest you've been to the hood is when you watch re-runs of YO! MTv RAPS."

Oh amen, amen, amen. SWORDFISH is so OTM, he's positively a PROPHET!!!!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 9 January 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Has anyone gotten sick of "All Your Bass Are Belong to Us" yet?

No, that DJ Virus track is still in my playlist, why?

― Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 9 January 2003 01:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Get my/your groove on."

"You just don't get it." I usually get it but either don't like it (if it is music, a movie, book or something else) or don't think it is funny (if someone is telling me a joke that I think is lame.)

― Illich, Thursday, 9 January 2003 06:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I read with interest ..... "

.. I think the "with interest" is implied if you spent the time to write a letter about it...

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

and for that matter, "I read..." is a given if you're bothering to reply.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

"You just don't get it."
To which I respond. No...I did "get it", I just didn't WANT it.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Thursday, 9 January 2003 14:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Getting back to the ever-tired "keepin' it real" shit, can we finally fuckin' officially retire it now that Coca-Cola is using it in their latest ad campaign (as sung by Mya & some gent with a floppy hat....Common maybe?)

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 17 January 2003 06:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I am all about [...]"

"I'm not really about [...]"

― Captain Sleep (Captain Sleep), Friday, 17 January 2003 10:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Let's not reinvent the wheel" - when referring to something that is not a simple machine, but rather, a very complex abstraction.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 17 January 2003 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

When people talk of "owning" emotions. Owning a thread's OK, though.

― Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also really sick of: "I'm really feeling this album" or "I'm not really feeling that..." etc.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 17 January 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Just out of curiousity, what exactly is a craw, and what would you need to drive it up there?

― TMFTML (TMFTML), Friday, 17 January 2003 17:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree with "It's all about...."

and

"Its all good"

― insectifly (insectifly), Friday, 17 January 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

people on ILX say "clearly" way too much, i don't like it

― duane, Saturday, 18 January 2003 08:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think I'm guilty of that. Sorry, Duane.

Words I use far too often on ILM: Irrefutably, Moot, Disquietingly, Worryingly, Rocktastic, Implausibly, Indefensible, Killing, Joke, Honor, The and Fire.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 18 January 2003 09:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

"moving forward"
"depth of flavor"

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Saturday, 18 January 2003 10:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

words alex in nyc doesn't use enough anymore: PABULUM!!

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 18 January 2003 12:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha I was about to say that mark!

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 18 January 2003 12:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Knew that was going to come up. What can I say...I think I exhausted it to the point where it lost its magic for me.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 18 January 2003 12:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Irrefutable pabulum.

― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 18 January 2003 13:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Emperor's New Clothes

as in: I don't like [X] that everyone seems to be raving about - oh, it's just emperor's new clothes (ie: all the others are weak minded fools and only I can see the truth)(ie: I'm a pompous twit).

― DavidM (DavidM), Saturday, 18 January 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Irrefutably MOOT pabulum.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 18 January 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like "to the next level" because a lot of bands have a leap in quality between albums and its a fun, silly way to express that. I'd never do that in print though. Except for humorous purposes.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 18 January 2003 21:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

"X is OTM."

No he isn't on money, he is on crack!

― , Saturday, 18 January 2003 21:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

basically using any quotation from anyone ever (including the dictionary) to sum up the point you think you're making. a lot of people said a lot of things! some of them are even official, ooooh! so what?! they don't provide that last f'in nail in the coffin of your arg or whatever, like we're so dazzled with this AUTHORITATIVE coup de grace that we just sort of topple over sideways and whimper "you win, you win..." i love a good quote but ONLY if it's docu-historical or like, informational. or fictional.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

When people talk of "owning" emotions. Owning a thread's OK, though.
What if we 0wnz0red it?

Just out of curiousity, what exactly is a craw, and what would you need to drive it up there?
A craw is a weird vegetable that Victorians used to boil mercilessly. What was odd about this -- now extinct -- vegetable is that it was part of the life cycle of a form of crayfish. This is why a crayfish that has given 'birth' to a craw is called a Crawdad.
As for how something can get 'stuck in yer craw', this has something to do with a perverse party game practiced my members of the Naughty Hellfire Club back when there still were craws to use in this twisted game. Lets just say it involved sticking things into a craw...and leave it at that.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

To answer TMFTML seriously, craw = throat I think.

― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm pretty unimpressed & bored with the whole "GREBT" thing too.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

(blank) is in the house
or in da house
unless someone is actually in a house, then it's OK
"Where's Bill?" "Oh, he's in the house." That would be fine.
Also, this is more sports related, and it may be a local phenomenon, but "Do it like you can." Here that a lot. Fills me with barely controlled rage.

― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Sunday, 19 January 2003 00:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

rawk

― Evan (Evan), Sunday, 19 January 2003 00:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

(blank) is in the house
or in da house
unless someone is actually in a house, then it's OK
"Where's Bill?" "Oh, he's in the house." That would be fine.

Post of the day.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 19 January 2003 00:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Post of the Month, I say. I practically spat coffee all over my keyboard in utter, unhomogenized mirth.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 19 January 2003 19:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Where's Bill?" "Oh, he's in the house." That would be fine.
Naw, it still wouldn't be complete unless its a relentlessly white insurance salesman with thinning hair and owl-like spectacles saying it...and ending the statement with "Yo". As in...
[WHINY HONKEY]"Oh, he's in the house, yo."[/WHINY HONKEY]

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 20 January 2003 14:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh NO....

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 January 2003 14:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

nineteen years pass...

People who last week couldn't find x on a map are now all of a sudden an expert in y

― anvil, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 17:48 (two years ago) link

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...also, when people say it was yay big, in stead of this/that big etc. What about elitist twats who refer to The Guardian as The Grauniad?? I'll stop now as I'm only winding myself up...
― Jez (Jez), Tuesday, January 7, 2003 3:46 PM

I suppose that nineteen years ago this person not understand that “yea” in this context does not mean “this/that” but approximate? Perhaps enlightenment has come and their irritation has subsided.

― Kim, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 18:40 (two years ago) link

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