Shuggie "Luaka" Otis? C or D?

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A lot of my anti-dance-music friends are super into it. Is it just acid jazz for the literary set, made acceptable by dint of some assumed veneer of back-in-the-day authenticity? Am I missing it?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I heard one of his songs on the radio for the first time last week. I liked it. Sounded pretty psychedelic and had lots of swooshsome sounds on it. It was like something that might have been off of Todd Rundgren's "A wizard, a true star". Didn't sound like acid-jazz anyway.

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i've had it for about a month now. last night, i decided to make my final judgement on it.

it's certainly ahead of its time and, yeah, in many ways, it does presage prince, except shuggie is nowhere near the melodist. the sound is fairly uniform, like a mixture of fresh sly and shaft ike, that is primitive drum machines, wah-wah, and subtle cinematic flourishes. since he was west coast based, there's some psychedelia and warm keys.

it's downfall, for me personally, is that it plays well as an album. and i can't tell you the last album i listened to from beginning to end. my guess, though, is that it's a warm weather album, a line of thinking encouraged by the gorgeously balmy "island letter." since i'm told that warm weather is on the way, i've decided to hold onto it. at least until autumn. not a classic, not a dud, though closer to former than to latter. apparently, there are no REAL unknown geniuses left out there for david byrne to lionize.

fred solinger, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What really irked me about the marketing campaign for the Luaka Bop reissue is that they carted in all these indie rockers and had that roundtable discussion about it. "This instrumental sounds like Cabaret Voltaire and ESG, no?" I would've been MUCH more interested to hear what the likes of D'Angelo, Maxwell, or even Prince would've had to say about it -- you know, the one-man shows who followed Otis (and Stevie Wonder, of course) much later on. But then again, young fans of those artists aren't exactly apt to buy obscure records from the mid-'70s.

Despite the hype, despite the odd marketing, despite the RIDICULOUSLY over-the-top statements about it (it's not really ahead of its time), it is a thoroughly fantastic record. It's slightly shambling and psychedelic in the best ways possible. I was completely oblivious that it was Otis who wrote "Strawberry Letter 23" (big influence on "Raspberry Beret," no doubt). Loved it the first time I heard it via Tevin Campbell (!), loved it even more when I became familiar with the Brothers Johnson version, and totally flipped when I heard the original. (That song is actually a bonus track, having appeared on an earlier record of his.)

The comparisons to There's a Riot Goin' On are pretty accurate, sound- wise. Otis uses that drum machine and has some really warped arrangements, but they're probably more a result of staring at the sun too long than a mirror with a big pile of coke on it. No politics, though -- very warm, personal.

Another bone to pick with the reissue is how the record's been repackaged to be more 'hip' and 'attractive.' Having seen a copy of the original, it's too bad they didn't just go with that. The new design makes it look kinda kitschy -- irritatingly so.

Andy, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It does seem to be extremely over-hyped but I'm really happy I bought it. The quotes at the LuakaBop web site from Tim Gane and Sean O'Hagan are what really drew me to it but don't hold that against me! At least 2 of the instrumentals could fit easily onto a Tortoise cd - so, at least in that way, it's ahead of it's time. Or Tortoise are backwards looking creeps. Or something. Have to agree with the person who talked about the lack of melodies - they certainly don't stand up against those created by Stone, Wonder, Withers, et al.

philT, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three months pass...
"Inspiration Information" is very good. Also, did you know that Shuggie Otis played bass on Zappa's legendary "Hot Rats" album when he was 16 years old? True story. I think he played on "Peaches En Regalia."

Jack Redelfs, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

five months pass...
He was first introduced on Al Kooper's "Kooper Session featuring Shuggie Otis". It's great blues, gospel and psychedelic rock.

brian, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

> Also, did you know that Shuggie Otis played bass on Zappa's legendary "Hot Rats" album when he was 16 years old? True story. I think he played on "Peaches En Regalia."

Yes, Shuggie Otis did play bass on "Peaches En Regalia."

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Peaches en Regalia has gone overlooked as a refrigerator tune for FAR TOO LONG.

Tracer hand, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
i give it a 1000000 out of 1%....


neat. it's late but neat.

gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 31 August 2003 07:44 (twenty years ago) link

I now love Shooey Otis, he's great although it only happened for me recently and I've been trying on and off since this thread started.

Keith Watson (kmw), Sunday, 31 August 2003 08:14 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...

"inspiration information" <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

strgn, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 06:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Peaches en Regalia has gone overlooked as a refrigerator tune for FAR TOO LONG.
-- Tracer hand, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (5 years ago) Link

What's a refrigerator tune?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 09:39 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Side two of the Freedom Flight LP is kind of like a Sandy Bull record. He's not only this great virtuoso, but his playing is very much about tone, too.

The bass solo on "Purple" is incredible.

timellison, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link

The two other tunes from that album that weren't on the Inspiration Information reissue, "Me and My Woman" and "Someone's Always Singing," are really good, too.

timellison, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link

What is a refrigerator tune?

GLOWER METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably something by Main.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

A tune you hear when Pee Wee opens the fridge and the peaches are all ice skating around wearing little crowns.

wk, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link


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