stardust - the music sound better with you video - what are the names of the fake pop bands

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the ones who are competing for no.1 against stardust on the telly while the boy is making his model plane

minna (minna), Friday, 10 January 2003 11:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

one of them was Boogie Brothers, then there was Monstarr or Monster Mash or something but i dunno if that was a song

this is yet another reason why all Michel Gondry videos should be released together on DVD (sigh...)

stevem (blueski), Friday, 10 January 2003 11:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

thank you stevem!

i love all the michel gondry videos i've seen (that i know of)
how does it feel like is beautiful

let's turn this into a gondry appreciation thread

what else has he done other than kylie (i haven't seen that yet)

minna (minna), Friday, 10 January 2003 11:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hot Lipps was another.

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

thnx siegbran!
hypothetical top 5

1)boogie brothers
2)hot lipps
3)monstarr
4)????
5)stardust

we still need the number 4

minna (minna), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Gondry videography

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Even better: this

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

ok, he's done....

Bjork 'Human Behaviour', 'Army Of Me', 'Isobel', 'Hyperballad', 'Bachelorette', 'Joga' (all works of genius and all on her DVD 'Volume' - hurray!)

Lenny Kravitz 'Believe' (dont remember this one well so can't point out the cool gimmick involved tho i'm sure there was one)

Sinead O Connor 'Fire On Babylon' (rotating houses symbolising paralle worlds in which a young girl is abused by her mum, i think)

IAM 'JE Danse Le Mia' (Gondry pioneers the 'morphing zoom' camera view effect, in which a still frame blends into the next via zooming in or out - the track is ace French rap too)

Lucas 'Lucas With The Lid Off' (great track, Swedish rapper i think - black and white video filmed in London in which Lucas travels around town singing the song along with various other people...more interesting than it sounds thanks to genius camera movements and early use of Gondry's model replica techniques with mirrors etc.)

Terence Trent D'arby 'She Kissed Me' (moving photographs, the subject of which escape into the real world i think)

Rolling Stones 'Like A Rolling Stone' (more morph-zoom effects)

Neneh Cherry 'Feel It' (never saw this one)

Black Crowes 'High Head Blues' (or this one)

Massive Attack 'Protection' (one of Gondry's best works - ONE shot takes us on a view of different rooms in a tower block revealing the lives/states of the numerous tenants, including Tracey Thorn and the band themselves. Brilliantly, the 'tower block' set is actually built vertically on the ground, allowing Gondry to achieve false gravity effects using periscopic mirrors and such. best of all, his treatment for this video included constructing a model of the set out of Lego to show how he wanted to do it :)

Cibo Matto 'Sugar Water' (classic split-screen with one side going forwards and the other going in reverse, both leading to the same 'conclusion')

Sheryl Crow 'A Change Would Do You Good' (strange choice for Gondry, here he displays various characters' lives within a spinning Viewchanger type device, the story based on people fed up with their lives and wanting to change, and Sheryl acting the wishmaster)

Daft Punk 'Around The World' (music box choreography - excellent costumes and dance steps as envisaged by Gondry to fit with the simple music...the inspiration for The Avalanches 'Frontier Psychiatrist' too no doubt)

Beck 'Deadweight' (the one where Beck and his shadow swap roles...lots of amazing 'role reversal' effects in general)

Wyclef 'Another One Bites The Dust' (Wyclef crawls out of your Tv set and other predictable tho well executed gimmicky effects, not one of Gondry's best but still impressive)

Foo Fighters 'Everlong' (confusing, but memorable for Dave Grohl having an enormous inflatable white glove with which he bashes a bunch of guys trying to move in on his wife)

Chemical Brothers 'Let Forever Be' (Gondrys combines all his trademarks in one video here, multiple people playing the same role, miniature replicas of larger objects, kaleidoscopic effects, Super 8 footage and a neat little story too)

Radiohead 'Knives Out' (if ever a director suited a band...here Gondry appears to capture the hallucinations of Yorke's mind to striking effect - with a big skeleton with a heart for a head amongst other things - very nice)

White Stripes 'Fell In love With A Girl' (amazing effects based on Lego models of Jack and Meg - this was handled by Gondry's brother's effects company. i think it was a combination of them building Lego models of EVERY FRAME of the original film shot by Gondry, and a 3D effects plug-in that makes captured video look like Lego, but dont quote me on that)

Chemical brothers 'Star Guitar' (astonishingly complex photo/video collaging designed so that the visuals match the musical score - seen from the view of a passenger seat on a high speed train so rail girders are snares, opposing trains are arpeggiated synths, vocal bits are people on the platform etc. - mind blowing)

Kylie Minogue 'Come Into My World' (there's a thread on this video for info)

he also did adverts for SMirnoff, NIke Cross Training and GAP - you can probably tell which ones they were if you think back a few years

stevem (blueski), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Don't forget his feature debut Human Nature, which was the best movie I saw in 2002.

JoB (JoB), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

swiped most of that from the director-file site which does give better commentary on the videos, especially the Bjork ones

i didnt know Gondry had done 'Dead Leaves...' - great video

and i forgot Donald Fagen's 'Snowbound' video which was quite radical at the time (and even today) - little metal people in Noddy style cars living out a grim existence as downtrodden hive-workers in a big city...extraordinary considering you'd get no idea of that in the song!

stevem (blueski), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

When I interviewed him, he maintained that the video for Army Of Me marked the first ever attempt to utilize a rotational axis and multiple viewpoint cameras - an effect which The Matrix later popularized...

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

is that interview online Mark?

stevem (blueski), Friday, 10 January 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Star Guitar video is absolutely amazing.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

JEM is better. Didn't mean to be, though, unfortunately, which means it doesn't count.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

No stevem, unfortunately it's not. It was more a research thing than for a proper story.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also, search: Max Tundra - "Gondry"

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

does anyone know much about Andrea Giacobbe, a director with a similar style to Gondry (specifically his style on 'Knives Out'). she directed the brilliant videos for Garbage's 'Push It' and Death IN Vegas 'Dirt' - not noticed anything else she's done but would love to know

also, what about Seb Janiak - photographer who directed the AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING video for Daft Punk's 'Burnin' which was extremely Gondry-esque!

stevem (blueski), Friday, 10 January 2003 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Foo Fighters 'Everlong' (confusing, but memorable for Dave Grohl having an enormous inflatable white glove with which he bashes a bunch of guys trying to move in on his wife)

IIRC, the wife in this video is actually played by the Foo Fighters' drummer. I seem to recall watching a Gondry interview on cable and him saying that there was a woman lined up to play Dave's wife, but she fell ill a day or so before filming was to begin, and Gondry said something along the lines of "Well, the drummer looks pretty, so we'll have him as the woman".

White Stripes 'Fell In love With A Girl' [snip] i think it was a combination of them building Lego models of EVERY FRAME of the original film shot by Gondry, and a 3D effects plug-in that makes captured video look like Lego, but dont quote me on that)

I remember only one bit of the video looking like the result of a 3D effects plug-in - the part towards the end where you see Meg looking over her shoulder and miming a lyric. Pretty sure that was treated video as it suddenly looks a lot more detailed than all of the other shots.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Friday, 10 January 2003 20:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

six years pass...

Alright, look folks. This is really bothering me. This Stardust song right? It has a sound to it that some other song I heard before has. What did they sample? Is there something on the first Basement Jaxx album that has this goddamn sound? (I really don't wanna have to rip the whole damn CD to my iPod just to find this out thanks) Come on, man. This is going to drive me nuts. What other song has that damn sound?

Disruptor of Morals (Bimble), Saturday, 25 April 2009 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link

guitar sample is from Chaka Khan's 'Fate'

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Saturday, 25 April 2009 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, that's a good start, thanks very much! But I think that whatever I'm looking for must be something else that sampled that.

Disruptor of Morals (Bimble), Saturday, 25 April 2009 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, I give up, this song is still amazing.

Disruptor of Morals (Bimble), Sunday, 26 April 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

James Mitchell, Sunday, 26 April 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Late last month, the band’s members returned to the studio to work on a remastering of the track ahead of its 20th anniversary digital release, marking the first time it will be available on streaming platforms. Talking to Billboard in Paris after the remastering session, Braxe and Diamond admitted to feeling a little uneasy about Stardust’s return to the studio (Bangalter, best known as one half of Daft Punk, declined to be interviewed for this piece).

“You don’t know how it’s going to go,” says Diamond. “It’s a special work to do so I was a bit anxious.”

“I was a bit anxious too,” adds Braxe, “but a month ago I had a listen to the song and I felt like, ‘Wow, it sounds a bit old now.’ It sounds good, but compared to today it sounds a bit old, and I thought it’s a good thing to try and update it." Nothing too crazy, though: “We did some very subtle compression, it sounds a bit like on the original 12-inch.”

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/8459696/stardust-music-sounds-better-with-you-interview-remaster

maura, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

That track is now 20 yrs. old? OMG

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

In the UK we had a show imaginatively titled "The Chart Show" which was the greatest music show ever made - better than Top Of The Pops or Jools Holland. It played music videos instead of live (or, "live") performances and instead of a presenter it just used graphics to cut between videos, based on a Play/Pause/Fast Forward interface. It was great - rock fans might care about the authenticity of performance but as a pop fan I prefer the spectacle and imagination of a promo video. The show seemed to pick songs at random to play in full so watching it you'd be exposed to lots of strange and now-forgotten music by lower-tier acts. It wasn't all great but it had a really big influence on my own tastes, and given this was the mid-90s not a lot of people (me included) had access to cable TV and channels like The Box so it was really the only chance you got to see music videos. If at ten years old you could have convinced me I'd have a device in my pocket that lets me see music videos at any time, I'd have had to assume I was making Bill Gates money.

When the show was cancelled in 1998 to be replaced by another TOTP ripoff, this song still didn't have a video. So the producers of the show played the song and showed archival footage of the different graphics and displays the show had used over the years. Then when the video came out it was actually based around a chart rundown which felt deliberate, even though it clearly wouldn't have been. So for me "Music Sounds Better With You" has become a song about how music is presented and packaged and how the artifice of pop performance can enhance a good single, and its nostalgic "love might bring us back to together" hint of memory grows stronger for me the older I get and the more The Chart Show feels like a relic. I really love it as a song and I really love it as a memento of my first experiences with being a fan and consuming pop.

boxedjoy, Friday, 15 June 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

I mean it's just a banger too isn't it

boxedjoy, Friday, 15 June 2018 09:28 (five years ago) link

Boxed otm that pick up by koze is a lot like this track

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link

Great long post

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link


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