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Anyone remember Wire's Invisible Jukebox with the Roi of Pere Ubu, David Thomas? "I think only Americans can rock, it's in our genetic makeup. Europeans have no right to it, what they do, it's not rock, it's something else." Any comments on this?

tarden, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Actually I think hes got it backwards. Europeans and Brits are always more into it. there are no Boomtown Rats in America

-- Mike Hanley, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Could you explain that further to this American?

Kerry Keane, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, I remember that. He was listening to Roxy Music. He said it wasnt exactly rock n' roll more English music hall vaudeville. then he said if he was stuck on a desert island he'd rather listen to a Mellancamp record than a Smiths one cos its more rock.

Michael Bourke, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Taking sides: Paul Thompson as drummer who rocks vs Chris Cutler as drummer who rocks

mark s, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

if he said roxy "weren't rock" it can't've been intended 100% as derogatory. wouldnt you figure early roxy (& eno's "warm jets") as being in the earl pere ubu's top 3 or 4 influences? (in fact you wouldnt really have to figure it for yourself, i think it says so in a couple of well known books about american punk rock). So he must actually like them.
Mark - Paul Thompson.

duane zarakov, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This is what he sez: The track he was listening to was "The Bogus man"..."I liked their first album a lot. then i started to very quickly lose interest. There were a lot of ideas on the first album, but to me this is too distanced from reality. It was always too intellectual, too forced, too distanced"...later on he sez.."It's a desert island question...whichever Smiths album you consider the greatest, or the Mellencamp album you consider to be the greatest, i have never met anybody who woould take the Mellencamp album except for myself. But I would kill myself if I had to live on a desert island with a Smiths album. I think ultimately there is a basic blood difference in that Mellencamp in his blood has the music, but Morrissey doesnt. It's not his fault, he's got something else. It doesnt mean he is a lesser human being, it just means he is not American"

Michael, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mellencamp had the chlorestoral in his blood as well as the music, hence his heart attack.

Nicole, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I suspect the same will happen with David Thomas. He is enormous. It's no coincidence he shares the name with the owner of Wendys.

Steven James, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Easy pop quiz: which two rockin' Jehovah's Witnesses have — completely independently — written, recorded and performed songs with the title "Thriller"?

(Actually one of them is called "Thriller!", I think...)

mark s, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I know of one, but then so does the rest of the world's population.

C'mon Mark, stop being such a tease and tell us.

Nicole, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Clue (as if anyone cares): he is to this thread as the one of which you speak, Nicole, is to all pop.

mark s, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well obviuosly these things are opinion Kerry, but if you ask me British people feel less inhibited to get really into rocking because British people feel they NEED to rock. AMericans already are inmmersed in rock. On second thought, this whole thread is ridiculous. I'm sorry I posted.

-- Mike Hanley, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link


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