The Album As A Historical Document

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are there any albums you own which can be regarded as historical documents in their own right?

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Julian Cope's "Peggy Suicide" inspired this thread, with its pictures, lyrics and sleevenotes detailing the opposition to the Poll Tax.

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:10 (twenty-three years ago)

would field recordings belong here?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Last year someone uploaded a collection of atom-bomb-themed songs from the 40s and 50s - mostly country, some blues and pop - and while not an album they were absolutely fascinating as historic artefacts (and often grebt as songs too!)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Somehow, Marley's original "Zippo'd" Catch a Fire gatefold belongs here.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Celebrity charity songs like "We Are The World" and "What's Going On 2001" work as a little "who's-big-in-pop-THAT-year" audio time capsule.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan Akroyd...popstar?

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Certainly "paradigm-shifters" like Sgt. Peppers and, uh, Masters of Reality stand as something hysterical, er, historical

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I think of most albums I own as historical documents of some sort or another. It'd be kinda impossible not to.

hstencil, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Muhammed Ali's album I Am The Greatest serves as historical document, almost more than anything else.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan Akroyd = pop culture star.

hstencil, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Blues Brothers had hit records, so Dan Ackroyd = pop star, no culture req'd.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan Ackroyd = pop star, no culture req'd.
None offered, Hah, hah.

Would Big Star's Sister Lovers be considered historical, since according to everything I read about it it demonstrates the increasing acrimony between the band members. Likewise maybe Let It Be?

And add Metal Machine Music as a paradigm shifter.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.folkways.si.edu/images/45060.jpg

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah fuck you (er, sorry for the coarse language) Amateurist! I really want that record! Lost an auction of it the other week.

(I'd also say that maybe recordings of animals are ahistorical documents?)

hstencil, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:16 (twenty-three years ago)

the ilx compilation!!

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Auction? It's out on CD--and I helped transfer the frog sounds.

Not ahistorical, because many of the frogs recorded on that album are extinct.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahistorical, but not paleontological or zoological or something. Frogs don't have history.

CD, schmeedee, I want the vinyl.

(do you work at a studio or something in Chicago? If so I know a lot of your peers.)

hstencil, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Whoops I meant apalenotological or azoological, but you knew that.

hstencil, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

No, I worked at Folkways for a summer. One gets very tired of frog noises, very quickly.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)

You might, but I wouldn't.

hstencil, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Moby's new LP is built on samples from this very record, so be careful lest your frog noise obsession quickly become passe.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:07 (twenty-three years ago)

old blues didn't become crap just because Moby sampled it. And since I avoid Urban Outfitters, I never have to hear his music.

hstencil, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:27 (twenty-three years ago)

You're right. And you'll probably enjoy the sequel, Jesus Christ Will Those Chickens Stop That Infernal Clucking.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Moby's sampling the frog record? Sigh.

I played the frogs for a friend, who grew despondent. "Those frogs make better music than I do!"

Anyway, aren't some of those frogs a bit endangered? That seems to add some historic quality right there.

Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 16 January 2003 04:20 (twenty-three years ago)


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