Christine Mcvie

"...and if I needed whiskey, he could serve it to me neat."

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Gold Dust Woman! Rhiannon! Silver Spring! Go Your Own Way! That news song that starts Rumours that goes b'gow b'gow b'gow... How can we deny ourselves these pleasures just for "You Make Loving Fun (not that you can hear it in my voice)"

Dan & Alex in NYC in AGREEMENT SHOCKER!!!!

But no, she is in no way as good as Nicks I'm afraid ("Dreams", "Sara" and "Gypsy" are some of the greatest songs e-vahhhhh!!!!).

Most non-intuitive great sequencing decision ever: opening _Tusk_ with "Over and Over."

Please tell me that changes your answer, Dan!

(BTW, I say that "Hold Me" cuts "Little Lies" any frickin' day of the week)

My feelings on this matter evident here - Lindsey Buckingham: C o' D?

I swear to god. I mean, that's it. I've heard probably 10,000 albums and then some at this point. But THAT song. It's arrangement, production, performance ... nothing has stopped me in my tracks, compelled repeated re-listenings, enraptured me ... nothing has bewitched me like that damn "Hold Me". The funny thing is Christine didn't even write it entirely; some LA-lifer named Robbie Patton helped her. Whatever. I love her voice too. So so good.

Also she apparently has a new solo album coming out in June!! I read this on some other message board! ILM is behind!

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It's the coolest goo-goo love song I can think of.

i fucking love you christine

everyone knows I'm a christine mcvie junkie here, so I'll take offense at this provocation.

In the meantime, Mr. Creme1, I had earlier predicted you to be Max instead, and I claim my 500 pence if that isn't what you are. Cheers.

I bought the double-disc comp over Xmas just so's I could own the remastered hits. I must say, "Love in Store," which I never really cared for, sounds great in this context.

"Over and Over" takes it for me. But I'm still taking Lindsey Buckingham, way before either of the chicks.

What a weird thread...unless I missed something it's as if she joined the band in 1975 or something. Her only real flaw is her consistancy.

My favorite video of Christine McVie and Stevie Nicks blasted all the way to mars pic.twitter.com/dpFloDpemo

— erb (@bentleyliz2) November 30, 2022

Xtine kinda stuck with organ and piano, huh? does anyone know if she fucked with synths on any of the records? Seems to me that the intros for "Little Lies" and "everywhere" would be Lindsey or Dashut or someone like that? Or am I wrong?

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She's definitely playing the handful of synth parts on the 1975 album and Rumours, probably played less of the programmed stuff by the time of Tango.

― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, December 1, 2022

She's credited with ARP as far back as Heroes Are Hard to Find.

She could also kick out the jams on accordion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5HQ2sEqZZE

Steve Winwood on FB:

“Christine was a lovely lady. I knew her briefly in the early days of the blues and folk scene in Birmingham, then later in the mid 80s when she lived in L.A., and shortly after I was lucky and privileged to play on one of her solo albums.

She had a beautiful alto voice that had elements of blues and church choral music, which in many ways set her apart from some of her melismatic contemporaries. Her beautiful, syllabic style was a joy to listen to. Together with her engaging, heartfelt songs she will be greatly missed. R.I.P. Christine” - SW

...some of her melismatic contemporaries OTM. Listening to the Christine Perfect album yesterday for the first time in a long time, it struck me that while she was of the British blues boom, she's never exactly emulating Etta James or Tina Turner on the songs of theirs she covered. She replaced the overemoting of many of her contemporaries with a sort of "coolness" that served her well as Mac became a pop band.

That's the best thing Winwood's ever written, including "Valerie."

There are definitely some good tracks on Chicken Shack's "Blue Horizon Sessions" collection.

I've always thought Christine's take on "I'd Rather Go Blind" was very beautiful and definitely shows the laid back coolness of the delivery. I got to think she liked some Dusty Springfield and maybe in a different set of circumstances, you could see some US label signing her like they did Rod Stewart out of that scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao9HpsXfuzY

I remember Sony sneaking that track on to The Best of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac CD from 2002. A cheat, but a welcome one.

Lindsey has now posted a handwritten message:

Christine McVie’s sudden passing is profoundly heartbreaking. Not only were she and I part of the magical family of Fleetwood Mac, to me Christine was a musical comrade, a friend, a soul mate, a sister. For over four decades, we helped each other create a beautiful body of work and a lasting legacy that continues to resonate today. I feel very lucky to have known her. Though she will be deeply missed, her spirit will live on through that body of work and that legacy.

rip :(

so sad :'(

My obit: https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/christine-mcvie-dead-appreciation-fleetwood-mac-1235179553/

Erin Osmon with some grand thoughts

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2022-12-01/fleetwood-mac-christine-mcvie-stevie-nicks

There's a picture in that LA Times article of Christine onstage in 1977 playing a tom-tom, what song could they be performing?

That's a good question. Supposedly Atlanta GA, 1977. She would step out front for World Turning, but usually with maracas.... for the jam sesh portion Mick would come out with a talking drum or whatever so that's my first guess- an unusual jam part of World Turning.

My only other guess is it could be a proto Sisters of the Moon.... what? I looked for some more pictures of this show by the same photographer, and one of the results is a shot of Lindsey with short hair and no beard, playing a Les Paul. He went with his new look when they started Tusk in 78, but stopped playing Les Pauls by 79, IIRC. Assuming the city is correct this could be from 8/29/78. Sisters is the only new song in that setlist and it is a song that Stevie holds a cowbell for. Maybe C hadn't worked out her part yet?

the 16 songs she takes lead vocal on (15 of which she wrote) from their 1971-1974 period would make a classic double LP.

probably someone more knowledgeable than me might know this: how often did the band revisit those tracks after buckingham/nicks arrived? so many of those tracks could have fit in beautifully on the s/t or rumours or tusk. it remains sort of a lost era (for the entire band, really.)

There are live takes of "Why", "Spare Me A Little of Your Love" and "Station Man" (among other early tracks) on the deluxe S/T album box, but I think the Christine stuff from that era didn't last much longer as concert material once Rumours came along.

Hadn't seen this before. Paul Bartel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnuKxTff55s

Even for 1984 that's a lot of makeup.

I love when Fleetwood Mac (as a band and solo) goes country.

I saw that in 1984 on my local video show! Obviously someone thought that it could be of interest to an audience of 12-year olds. That was before the advent of "mature" rock videos for older artists and audiences.

If you can believe it, "Got a Hold On Me" was in heavy rotation in early 1984.

Even for 1984 that's a lot of makeup shoulder pads.

It was either make that video, or do a six episode arc as Lady Christine Thistlewick on Dynasty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjH84W_-V1c

Bob Welch w/Christine & Mick in '81

Brown Eyes is the best FMac song

I recoil from that breathy tone Welch uses.

Yeah, Soto otm re: Mick's gifts. And John, he's pretty great, too, of course; iirc Mike Mills had a "what would John McVie do?" maxim. I think in their case as a rhythm section, it could be the result of all those formative years woodshedding, which helps them swing and shuffle through stuff like "Over My Head."

I missed this good bit from the L.A. Times obit:

Her grounding presence was a welcome contrast to Nicks’ nymph-like persona, not because it positioned the two against each other, but because it offered two very powerful frameworks for womanhood and female friendship within the same chart-topping band. The idea that women must choose — that one is either a Christine or a Stevie — is an outmoded and reductive binary in the year 2022. Instead, the fruitful pairing of McVie and Nicks, how their writing and personalities elegantly commingle and reflect back on one another, offers an antidote to the notion that women can be only one thing.

Nice

And yet, they sure didn’t seem to work together much the last 25 years.

And where were all these Nicks/McVie partisans when Behind the Mask came out?

Blasting "Save Me."

Or, like Rolling Stone, saying "the addition of Rick Vito and Billy Burnette is the best thing to ever happen to Fleetwood Mac".

This is my favorite song from the 1988-1990 era. Nicks, McVie, and the ringers harmonize well, and the woozy synths complement them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAFOlNSDP8

I feel like I said this somewhere else but man, “Prove Your Love” is a terrific song. The wordless refrain with the sawing violins is just magic. Anyone who thinks she needed Lindsey never heard this.

i don't hold you down, maybe that's why you're around

this line sticks with me as cuttingly as if someone had once said it to me

christine mcvie otmfm

“Think About Me” is such an underrated song, one of the best examples of the deceptive lightness that Christine often brings to the table.

More broadly I think she’s clearly the MVP on Tusk - the only songwriter on the album who doesn’t miss her target even once.

She's the least ambitious of the three, though, and I'd call "You'll Never Make Me Cry" banal even by her own standards.

In the context of Fleetwood Mac -- its rhythm section, Buckingham's production know-how, Nicks' weirdness -- McVie didn't need ambition, man.

“Brown Eyes” is perfect

McVie didn't need ambition, man
yeah, i think she found the perfect sweet spot between the hyper-emotionalism of nicks and buckingham — mcvie songs always feel like welcome moments of serenity in that context.

"Think About Me" might be in my top 5 of the Buckingham-Nicks era.

She's the least ambitious of the three, though, and I'd call "You'll Never Make Me Cry" banal even by her own standards.

― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, July 18, 2024 9:45 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Maybe it reflects that I came to this album two decades after its release and I'm totally wrong about this, but I've always heard the above song as being an in-character performance of the lies we tell ourselves and others when we are trapped in emotionally abusive / dependent relationships.

(assuming that's correct) I can't think of many prior precedents for that off-hand (maybe "As Long As He Needs Me" from Oliver), and I'd certainly not call it banal.

i.e. it tackles implicitly the issues which "Little Lies" later rendered explicit.

McVie didn't need ambition

So her weakest songs are likely to be boring instead of eccentrically manic or self-absorbedly brooding.

I've always heard the above song as being an in-character performance of the lies we tell ourselves and others when we are trapped in emotionally abusive / dependent relationships.

OK, but this is the theme of almost half of McVie's catalog - even the quote from "Think About Me" that started this revive is a lot more poignant. It's hard to invest if I find the melody uninteresting.

Brilliantly sequenced, though. Maybe I wouldn't have liked it much on Rumours... but maybe i would've, Lindsey's arrangement is flattering. But those two minutes of sweet Christine softness between the Peter Green fade-out on their eeriest song and another dose of manic Lindsey: perfect!

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