Will the Brits Lifetime achievement award skip a generation?

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Once all the obvious old timers run out (and that is surely pretty soon) who are they going to give this award to? Will we
see U2`s british counterparts-the Cure, Depeche Mode - being recognised, I`m sure their record sales are considerable and both bands are still knocking around right? Or will that generation be shunned (apart from maybe the Pet Shop Boys, after all they had quite a few No.1s and previous Brit awards)in favour of the next generation of obvious candidates Oasis/Robbie Williams/Kylie et al?

Fran, Friday, 17 January 2003 12:09 (twenty-three years ago)

What? You mean U2 HAVEN'T won a Brits lifetime achievement award yet?!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 17 January 2003 12:13 (twenty-three years ago)

U2 have won, i think 2 or 3 years ago.

Fran, Friday, 17 January 2003 12:17 (twenty-three years ago)

It's about time Depeche Mode won something...but as they're on an independent, of course they'll get overlooked.
Apparently Kate Bush was offered it (another artist who should have had the award), but she turned it down as she'd have had to perform a medley at the ceremony.

Also, Pet Shop Boys are long overdue. Siouxsie, too.
Maybe even Morrissey/Marr, Vince Clarke, Annie Lennox and Marc Almond.... all artists still artound, and selling records, today, 20 years on from their career start.

russ t, Friday, 17 January 2003 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Iron Maiden should get one.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 17 January 2003 12:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark E Smith should be next. or Slick Rick.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 17 January 2003 13:07 (twenty-three years ago)

as usual I agree with jel

geeta (geeta), Friday, 17 January 2003 13:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Fran makes a good point...the Spice Girls have already won a Lifetime Achievement award at the Brits which suggests that the likes of Morrissey and Robert Smith will indeed not get a lookin. Perhaps New Order will get one next year - after that I'm pretty sure its gonna be Robbie Williams or Oasis.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 January 2003 13:11 (twenty-three years ago)

additionally, it seems the Q Awards now cater for the middle-tier rock establishment. John Lydon and Kate Bush won lifetime type awards with them last year - i expect The Clash will get something this year if they havent already...then there's Peter Gabriel, Mozza, The Cure, New Order, Mark E Smith, Siouxie and Paul Weller sorted too.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 January 2003 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Regarding the Q awards, its all well and good that it provides some recognition for indie-granddads and other acts lacking high mainstream profiles, what it doesn`t provide is the exposure and career boost/rise in back catalogue sales that a similar Brit award would..that seems to me to be the whole point of the Brits exercise. Its curious that the "music industry" or whoever decides on this award keep choosing acts who don't really need the boost ie. those who have sold and continue to sell shitloads and do in fact have considerable mainstream profile.
The likes of Morrissey and New Order who seem to me like natural and deserving candidates for a Bruts LAO , probably wouldn`t accept one anyway.

Fran, Friday, 17 January 2003 13:46 (twenty-three years ago)

how much power do the Brits have anyway? if someone wins a couple of awards at it is there a considerable sales boost for them the following week? if it wasnt for the hype generated by Radio 1, ITV and the major music mags who over-value the show (perhaps often against their own beliefs and principles) considerably but hype it up to the level by which it seems to gain some kind of self-assured importance.

I dont seem to mind magazine awards half as much...the Brits gets the stick cos its more of an industry thing, thus totally evil obviously.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 January 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)

The KLF should get one, but after their 1992 Brits performance with Extreme Noise Terror, sheep's blood etc., have probably ruled themselves out.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 17 January 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well they won Best Group and Best Album that year tho they had to share it with Simply Red which is extraordinary

stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 January 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

the Stereo MCs winning the following year is another indication that the Brits were actually more progressive, innovative and interesting TEN years ago!

stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 January 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

It's dominated by the Streets and Ms Dynamite this year, which strikes me as being as creditable and progressive as the Stereo MCs. Remember the KLF had hit after hit after hit, so it wasn't hugely daring including them.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 17 January 2003 20:16 (twenty-three years ago)

yes but getting nominated is easy enough (hello Big Brothas!), its WINNING thats the tricky part, and altho Miss Dynamite is virtually guarantedd Best British Female, The Streets is not actually the favourite in any of the categories he's in

i think people expect urban pop/dance to dominate proceedings now but you wouldnt have back in 1992/3...it was definitely considered somewhat controversial to award the KLF and Stereo MCs Best Group in their respective years...if anything because with the KLF they were sharing it with Simply fucking Red (whose 'Stars' album was then the biggest selling album by a British artist in the UK ever) and the Stereo MCs won without having one top ten hit which was unusual then and is now.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 January 2003 21:52 (twenty-three years ago)

more than "Brothers In Arms", even? what about "Sgt Pepper"?

the Stereo MCs actually won in 1994, and the 1993 awards were generally regarded as an all-time nadir (even the Sunday Times TV critic took the piss saying that the best male artist list looked like "oldest male artist", and they were essentially the sort of paper who would have endorsed those nominations). they were forced to make a few tokenistic changes after '93 because the whole country was laughing. kind of like Radio 1, really: it is not surprising that Simon Bates appeared in the TV coverage of the '93 awards.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 17 January 2003 22:48 (twenty-three years ago)


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