What was the last GREAT album you bought?

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It occured to me that its been quite along time...probably years...since I bought a record which was truly great. I don't mean 'very good' or 'great compared to the other crap that's out there' I mean a great album - something that will stand the test of time and will go down in history as one of the best of it's genre.

Off the top of my head I can't really think of anything that falls into this catagory...The Roots "Phrenology" comes close, but ultimately falls short IMO (although still very good!). The last Queens of the Stone Age album was one of the better albums in a long while, but again its not quite an instant clasic. Rival Schools put out an awesome debut album, but I doesn't stand up to something like Pet Sounds (not really a fair comparison, but I hope you get my point).

What was the last GREAT album you bought?

Just curious because I'm a little tired with my CD collection, but I don't see much better out there and I'm looking for stuff to buy - any genre, although I tend not to like mellow music (Radiohead, Coldplay, Sigur Rós etc) or indie rock (lots of exceptions but I'm not into stuff like Modest Mouse, Silver Jews etc).


CretanBull (CretanBull), Sunday, 19 January 2003 07:47 (twenty-three years ago)

something that will stand the test of time and will go down in history as one of the best of it's genre

I know there are some detractors around here, but I'm almost certain I'll still feel the same way about the Walkmen's Everyone Who Pretended To Like Me Is Gone in a few years as I do now. It's not attached to any movement as such, and it's pretty hard to pigeonhole into a timeframe of relevance.

I got that during summer of last year, though. I'm trying to think of a GREAT album I've heard or bought since then, and I'm drawing a blank.

paul cox (paul cox), Sunday, 19 January 2003 08:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Um, I picked up some used vinyl copies of John Fahey's "Volume 1: Blind Joe Death" and "Volume 2: Deathchants, Breakdowns, and Military Waltzes" in the past day or so...(the ones on Takoma circa '67) and I'd certainly call those GREAT, by your definition. I think the CD issues for those are available, with the original versions from late 50s/early 60s.

(I don't know if these qualify as "mellow" or not, but seeing that you consider Radiohead "mellow", I dunno...)

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 19 January 2003 08:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Triple R, Friends. gets better and better w/every spin.

M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 19 January 2003 08:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess I would have to say it was another compilation of 60s garage music (I don't want to say which one for complicated reasons). I've bought a lot of other things, though. Everything else is too close and real - or too boring. I still find 60s garage music great for the sweet, idiotic humour, the simple lines that you can read unlimited meaning into, and because it's at the intersection musically of baroque and simple rock - no wonder it's such a fertile period.

maryann (maryann), Sunday, 19 January 2003 08:26 (twenty-three years ago)

capt beefheart alb: lick my decals off, baby.

but i bought some new recs yesterday so that might change.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 19 January 2003 11:25 (twenty-three years ago)

They all suck.

, Sunday, 19 January 2003 12:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Daft Punk - Discovery : This will always be for me the best album of 2001 and the best album of the decade so far.

Panagiotis Pileidis (Panagiotis Pileidis), Sunday, 19 January 2003 12:31 (twenty-three years ago)

everything i buy is great.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Sunday, 19 January 2003 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)

something that will stand the test of time and will go down in history as...
uh-oh

zebedee, Sunday, 19 January 2003 13:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Albums as a format haven't been around long enough for any of them to have stood the test of time yet, sorry.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 19 January 2003 13:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I think most albums I get are great for a few months. Stood the test of time, hmmm, I'll specify that as 5 years...Dinosaur Jr - Where You Been.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 19 January 2003 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I bought sparks "Kimono My House" thee other week. I was expecting a coupla good tracks, & some filler (I bought it b/c I wanted to hear "This Town ain't Big Enough For the Both 0f Us") Thee whole elpee is great, and *everything* on it is good. I recommend you buy that.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 19 January 2003 14:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Blues and Ballads -- Lonnie Johnson

Jim M (jmcgaw), Sunday, 19 January 2003 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

the whole sparks island 3 album set is hilarious, all recommended, my favourite track right now "Without Using Hands"

i got some classical stuff too

oh, and the two dexy's midnight runners albums have been really taking me back

george gosset (gegoss), Sunday, 19 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Junior Wells-Hoodoo Man Blues. I've had it a few years now, and I'm convinced it doesn't get much better.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Sunday, 19 January 2003 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Air, '10,000hz Legend'. I wrote about it on the 'Byrds vs Zombies' thread, logically enough.

dave q, Sunday, 19 January 2003 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)

buy? lol..... buy? lol.

maria b (maria b), Sunday, 19 January 2003 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)

the album: c.1948-2001? RIP

the rationale for the LP as a format — a historical market convenience adapted to and exploited by musicians able to find a use and a power in a very specific length* cut up into however many sections of whatever lengths (songs/tracks/cuts) — has been dissolving for several years

the sheer over-production of strategies to exploit it has surely drained it of more than nugatory value: and the world of MP3 exchange and random-order play is any way the format open to creative exploitation, potential, play, power-to-be-found

*(as if ALL books had to be between 350 and 400 pages long)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 January 2003 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been thinking the same for a bit. In the 136 list I ventured a guess it'd be going, I didn't realize how quickly that might come about. I also didn't realize how much the focus would be on free stuff. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 January 2003 16:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Tyrone Davis - Turn Back The Hands Of Time LP

Paul (scifisoul), Sunday, 19 January 2003 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

heh...I didn't read cretanbull's intro, I just ans the question. and it is flawed.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 19 January 2003 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Hot Hot Heat.

Vilcata, Sunday, 19 January 2003 18:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm assuming you're asking for new music. Bob Dylan's Love and Theft. Or, tho I assume you have it, Stankonia.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 January 2003 19:17 (twenty-three years ago)

New music: Clinic, Walking With Thee. Yes, I know, there's no "Goodnight Georgie" and the cover's not as cool as That Other, Previous Clinic Album. I don't care. Shut up. (No, not you, that guy.)

Old stuff: I bought Tubeway Army's Replicas yesterday and have listened to the first five tracks or so. If the rest of the album is that good (and I sure as shit know that "It Must Have Been Years" is), then yeah, easy classic.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 19 January 2003 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm tempted to say BLACK DICE by the Division of Laura Lee, but I'm afraid the jury's still out.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 19 January 2003 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll second Sparks - Kimono, Junior Wells - Hoodoo Man Blues and Gary Numan - Replicas - not that I don't agree with the others (that I've heard) but dem 3 got me excited just to see em mentioned!

Paul (scifisoul), Sunday, 19 January 2003 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

MOISTBOYZ III

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 January 2003 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I still like albums. In fact I like 'em more than ever. I don't download music. Am I a luddite?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:09 (twenty-three years ago)

no, you're just not a thieving sonofoabitch

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:10 (twenty-three years ago)

albums rock u r all gay

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:10 (twenty-three years ago)

It's not that Jim, it's that we're just dial-up at home and I'm 'not allowed' to d/l at work. Plus no CD burner at work = seems pointless.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:14 (twenty-three years ago)

APOCALYPSE DUDES.

matt riedl (veal), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:15 (twenty-three years ago)

ah i see

to be honest i tried downloading and got sick of it once i realised that i never once listened to anything i downloaded.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:16 (twenty-three years ago)

i never listen to my lps either

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)

why, is your record player broken?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:49 (twenty-three years ago)

that I've listened to: Rolling Stones' Beggars Banquet. that I just bought and have big hopes for: Redd Kross' Neurotica.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 January 2003 23:54 (twenty-three years ago)

that I listened to: Chicks On Speed Will Save Us All (thank you Ally!); that I actually went out and bought: Daft Punk's Discovery.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 20 January 2003 00:23 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm with paul cox. the walkmen album contains some of the best music i've ever heard. usually with a favorite albums, i tend to resist the urge to listen to it all the time (so as not to burn out on it). but with the walkmen, i'm completely powerless. they're just so goddam stunningly perfect that after listening to them, there's nothing else in my collection that will please me.

juice (juice), Monday, 20 January 2003 02:53 (twenty-three years ago)

That I first heard in the past five years or so...

The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
The Streets - Original Pirate Material
Coldplay - Parachutes
R.E.M. - Murmur
Love - Forever Changes
The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
Radiohead - OK Computer
Pink Floyd - The Piper At the Gates of Dawn
Ween - The Mollusk

Flawless stone classics the lot of them.

I've always liked singles a lot more than albums because I rarely have the time anymore to listen to an album from beginning to end with no distractions.

Evan (Evan), Monday, 20 January 2003 05:54 (twenty-three years ago)

the idea of a concept record, a record that's more than the sum of the songs parts, that makes overall art out of the songs as angles or pieces -- or perhaps its an identity, stance or allegiance thing, like liking the [x] group or groups of [x] genre groups or styles -- people like to consume music in this way -- the idea has crossed to CDs which have always been a random access device and have been used with multi-disc players for years -- song based music is an added feature but the set of songs idea, the album idea wasn't thrown out with CDs and y'know people still say "radiohead made an important new album/cd" type stuff

before vinyl albums there were collections on tapes, but way before then there were song cycles and masses, and i think the album, the cd, the collection of short stories for instance, essentially the old song cycle art form has only been strengthened by the thirty years of albums and CDs -- if it goes back to 45 after 45 type song based stuff then i think a few things that albums of songs do well will be lost culturally, and i think that ain't going to happen because it seems lots of musicians like to work in that format and lots of people process music that way

george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 20 January 2003 06:36 (twenty-three years ago)

"before vinyl albums there were collections on tapes": are you sure george? tape as a technology within radio goes back before the 33, true, but not as a medium on-sale to the general public (and it was really only used in pop radio) (and in fact recording onto shellac transcription discs was much more common)

music-for-tape as a project (which spanned everything from Fontana Mix to Kontakte) came into being at more or less the same time as album-as-organisation-of-shorter-pieces, ie the early 50s: the main reason avant garde electronic music was wary of the record-as-medium was that it demanded very fixed lengths of composition, and composers disliked being dictated to by the market

obviously the "song cycle"-as-expanded-by-album-practice won't totally go away: but it'll fall back from a 99.9% dominance of all music back to a smaller presence, and long ago retreated from being the primary cultural expression

"45-after-45-type song-based stuff": why would it go back to this? it's like saying, "seeing as the newspaper is no longer the most dynamic or progressive publishing format for political struggle, everyone will turn back to the satirical cartoon posted in the printer's shop window"

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks for the suggestions everyone....I've heard alot of what has been mentioned, but there's a few that I'll look into - I'm curious enough about the Walkmen to check them out (although I didn't like Jonathan Fire Eater AT ALL I'll give the Walkmen a chance!).

CretanBull (CretanBull), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

buffy the musical!

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 20 January 2003 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

buy? lol..... buy? lol.

If you don't buy albums from bands that you like, how to you expect them to be able to afford making good music?

CretanBull (CretanBull), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)

i am repeating myself but it is nothing but the truth:

montgolfier brothers - the world is flat

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Phrenology...I don't agree, I think it's a muthafuckin classic if there ever was a classic.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)

If I were king, I'd put a copy in every home: Circulatory System "Circulatory System" (Cloud Recordings). Melancholy pysch-pop ensemble with simply brilliant instrumentation. Lush. So lush.

nader (nader), Monday, 20 January 2003 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)

obviously the "song cycle"-as-expanded-by-album-practice won't totally go away: but it'll fall back from a 99.9% dominance of all music back to a smaller presence
to be replaced by what (in the marketplace*, I mean)? Music on demand? I keep hearing this is coming, but it never seems to arrive.

(er, if you answered this earlier mark, it wasn't clear)

*or is the market dying too?

Jeff W, Monday, 20 January 2003 16:06 (twenty-three years ago)

''"45-after-45-type song-based stuff": why would it go back to this? it's like saying, "seeing as the newspaper is no longer the most dynamic or progressive publishing format for political struggle, everyone will turn back to the satirical cartoon posted in the printer's shop window"''

I think george mentioned this because you suggested thiat we are returning to 45-after-45: by going forwards towards MP3s (the future!) we are destroying the album (R.I.P).

its still CDs only round here I'm afraid. I am too incompetent with all this internet stuff.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 20 January 2003 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)

i've no idea jeff, media's internal hierarchy of relationships to the (ahem) means of production is in extreme turmoil at the moment, a protracted war for dominance within the "multi" of "multi-media", and i wd hesitate to speculate on who's winning

(the "the making of" section of DVDs is totally wide open for creative exploitation, at the art level and the prankster-pop level) (power puff girls DVD has fun with it, though it wears thin quickly)

(DVDs are not a settled medium, i think, too baggy still)

when the vinyl 33 appeared, it was an up-scale marketing tool for uninterrupted classical music in hifi repro, no one predicted the album's emergence (via rock, w. outlier precursors elsewhere) in the form as george g. celebrates it — i don't believe in the calm unsettled continuity forever of something just bcz lots of people still like it (cf vinyl)

the market may well be dying but that's not what i'm counting on

mark s (mark s), Monday, 20 January 2003 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Phrenology...I don't agree, I think it's a muthafuckin classic if there ever was a classic.

Its very close....probably the closest to what I've been looking for - its a 9 out of 10 ('Things Fall Apart' is also a 9 IMO).

I can't think of too many 10s..."Pet Sounds" (Beach Boys) is definitely my favourite album. The Who "Live at Leeds" is a close second. From 1966-72 The Rolling Stones put out some of the best albums ever - I think "Between the Buttons", "Beggar's Banquet", and "Exile on Mainstreet" are all 10's - their other albums from that era are all 9s or 8s at worst. Its kinda cheating becuase its a compilation, but I've been listening the Buzzcock's "Singles Going Steady" for about 15 years and I still think its awesome.

CretanBull (CretanBull), Monday, 20 January 2003 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

i think Cassette Boy's 'Parker Tapes' counts

stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 January 2003 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

While I doubt anyone here will agree with me, I personally consider Toxicity a classic, without a dizzoubt.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 20 January 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Beth Gibbons - Out of Season
Alison Moyet - Hometime
Bent - Programmed to Love

Sparks - how awful is the remixed Best of Plagiarism? I bought it - and found it totally pointless...why tamper with perfection?

russ t, Monday, 20 January 2003 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

The Roots' Phrenology. Even deaf people should own this album. I haven't bought the Cody ChesnuTT record but when I do, that'll be the LAST great album I bought.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 20 January 2003 18:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Last month i finally found Barkmarket's last outing, L Ron, of which i can recommend it highly (i just last week got Queens of the Stane Age -- and yes, near instant classic. ¥

christoff (christoff), Monday, 20 January 2003 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Tomorrow the Green Grass - Jayhawks

Rommel Cox, Monday, 20 January 2003 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)

(nathalie has obv. confused her choice with christoff's purchase of last week)

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 20 January 2003 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Various Artists - Wow That Was The 70s

Tom (Groke), Monday, 20 January 2003 21:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Last albums I bought that were REALLY good:

- Shellac at Action Park
- Slint - Spiderland
- REM - Murmur
- Poster Children - Junior Citizen
- Ben Harper - Fight For Your Mind

if you're a indie fan, go for it...

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Monday, 20 January 2003 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, and about ripping and burning CD's off the internet... Well, I have fast access at home, but my collection of original CD's hasn't stopped growing... I really like having it all: the music, the artwork, the box... (It's a bit hard on your wallet, but I get it all back on satisfaction, when I behold my collection... ;)

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Monday, 20 January 2003 23:27 (twenty-three years ago)

i wish radio shows could take back audience from tv -- who is the orson welles punk of radio ?

tapes, i suppose they came in lot's of competing formats, but since they're most definitely non-random-access i think people used them to collect things in an orgaised way, as people try to do with their video collections (will the industry try to kill that way of doing things)

i think it's good that the recording industry doesn't know arthur from martha right now -- this is the sort of kick up the arse that bands like the clash provided in the late '70s, which worked

bands have to be sticky again (like web-sites)

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:28 (twenty-three years ago)

The Delgados - Hate
(Thanks to Mr Swygart for persuading me...)

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 25 January 2003 20:18 (twenty-three years ago)

songs for the deaf is an easy classic....
missy: under construction ..i'll still be wiggling to this in 5 years..

best album from last 2 or 3 years
dj marky " the brazilian job- movement 2" very funky D'N'B mix

toe-foo (toe-foo), Sunday, 26 January 2003 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Manu Chao Clandestino would be GREAT if it did not have that monkey song on it!

Randy Farang (TOOTHFANGCLAW), Sunday, 26 January 2003 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

songs for the deaf? are you kidding me? yuck yuck yuck, its terribly disappointing!

now the walkmen, thats classic. its so different and fresh and good. rue the day!

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 27 January 2003 06:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll third (fourth?) Daft Punk's Discovery. I finally broke down and bought this a month or so ago (it was always so expensive!) and it's a total classic. Like a progressive disco record or somethin'. Like whoa.

Isis' Oceanic is also pretty close. But I damn near killed it from playing it so much, so I'll have to give it another listen after a breather.

original bgm, Monday, 27 January 2003 06:30 (twenty-three years ago)

The Walkmen are crap.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 January 2003 15:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Grand Buffet - Sparkle Classic

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 27 January 2003 19:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the true test of the album's longevity will be seen when we reach the point where buying 10 songs costs exactly ten times the price of buying 1 song. At that point, we will see whether people still see value in buying the set of 10 songs.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 27 January 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I second the nomination of Buffy - The Musical. I am proud of that assertion - it wipes the floor with so mamy recent releases.

paulc, Monday, 27 January 2003 20:36 (twenty-three years ago)


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