charlemagne palestine: c/d + s/d

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Yestrday I finally found a copy of Charlamagne palestine's 'Four manifestations on six elements' and I really enjoyed the whole thing, especially the cascading piano drones (?!) on the fifth track ('sliding fifths').

Any other recommendations?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 19 January 2003 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

there's a good tom piece on cp somewhere in the archives. are those really golden ratio drones?

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 19 January 2003 17:41 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, I have read that a long time ago. as i recall it was him attending a gig and writing abt this rec. the only time I have ever read him on this sort of music.

''are those really golden ratio drones?''

er...yes!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 19 January 2003 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

See him live. See him. See him. See him LIVE.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 19 January 2003 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)

OK! OK! OK! OK I WILL!

whenever he comes here, of course (just like borbeto).

In the meantime, gimme some recommendations.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 19 January 2003 18:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Julio there's a great 2CD set on Durtro (David Tibet's label) called Karenina. It's CP's elegy to his dead dog, or something or other. It's a beautiful harmonium drone with Charlemagne singing five or six notes over and over in a falsetto. I know it sounds lame, but somehow it's haunting, creepy, and compelling.
Another great Palestine CD is Schlingen-Blangen, a beautiful 70 min organ drone (one chord with incredible shimmering overtones) which just washes over you. Very soothing!

― Dan Siedler, Sunday, 19 January 2003 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Strumming Music.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 19 January 2003 19:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Jamaica Heinekens in Brooklyn, then. Wherein CP mixes a drone piece with audio captured while he slowly wandered around the Jamaica Day Parade: the sublimity of holy minimalism 'infected' by the secular, or the slightly uncomfortable reunion of two long-lost cousins of religious ritual. It's almost half-baked, since the two have nothing to do with each other and never really 'gel' but the piece builds in dynamism once CP starts getting closer to all the blasting Carribean rhythms.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 19 January 2003 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

You should be more lucky than I am at seeing him live, though, since you're in the UK and hence are closer to CP than I am (he now resides in France if I remember correctly). I only saw him once in 2000 at the Dia Arts Center: he played piano and the air thickened with sound.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 19 January 2003 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I think he actually lives in Belgium, so close enough (for us Americans). I'd love to see him live.

Recommended stuff:

Strumming Music (Shandar) LP - extremely difficult to find on LP, there's a CD version floating around, but that's tough to find too.
Schlingen Blangen (New World Records, 80578-2) CD
Four Manifestations on Six Elements (Barooni, BAR 014) CD
Karenina (Durturo, no number) 2CD
Jamaica Heinekens In Brooklyn (Barooni, BAR 021) CD
Schlongo!!!daLUVdrone (Cortical Foundation, organ of Corti 23) CD
Alloy (Alga Marghen, plana-P 13NMN.035) CD
Continuous Sound Forms (Alga Marghen, plana-P 14NMN.036) CD
Music for Big Ears (Staalplaat, std 156) CD

also Godbear, I think it's on Barooni (need to get that one, myself).

If you're ever in NYC, you can see/buy videos of him from the 1970s at Dia.

― hstencil, Sunday, 19 January 2003 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)

thanks to all!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 19 January 2003 21:47 (twenty-three years ago)

The collaboration with Pan Sonic is good.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 20 January 2003 06:51 (twenty-three years ago)

i started a thread on this before!!

julio - i have several of his cds so we should talk.

also i still only have a cut 40min version of strumming music. grr. it's completely classic, though.

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 January 2003 07:06 (twenty-three years ago)

''i started a thread on this before!!''

oh...I did a search and didn't find anything. I might have mispelt his name.

''julio - i have several of his cds so we should talk.''

heh. I'm listening...

''also i still only have a cut 40min version of strumming music. grr. it's completely classic, though''

I know what you're feeling. There are some clicks and cuts in the last 10 mins of my copy of skullflower's Xaman (becauz of cd-rot).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 20 January 2003 10:23 (twenty-three years ago)

charlemagne palestine C/D (sorry, i have forgotten how to do links and can't be arsed to look it up).

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 January 2003 10:38 (twenty-three years ago)

thanks. andrew L's account of the gig makes me terribly jealous.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 20 January 2003 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)

hey, do urls automatically get converted to html links on nu-ilx?! cool.

i really really want to see him live, too.

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 January 2003 10:50 (twenty-three years ago)

yes they do. now you mention it I did the copy and paste URL thingy and it got transformed (by magic, or graham's miraculous skillz).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 20 January 2003 10:53 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought strumming music was terrible aimless drivel and REALLY BADLY ENGINEERED to boot. I LOVE a lot of his other stuff - manifestations especially.

― bob snoom, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 11:18 (twenty-three years ago)

is someone going to make the Charlemagne Israel joke?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 12:38 (twenty-three years ago)

''really badly engineered''?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)

maybe he means mastered? Dunno, my vinyl copy of Strumming sounds great.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

''Strumming Music (Shandar) LP - extremely difficult to find on LP, there's a CD version floating around, but that's tough to find too.''

but i have. and fantastic 50+ min piece it is as well. my room was filled with lovely sound. don't know abt 'really badly engineered tho', but i do have athreshold for bad recordings but it sounds good to me.

got jamaican heinekens but haven't listened to it yet.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 16 March 2003 20:33 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

Yestrday I finally found a copy of Charlamagne palestine's 'Four manifestations on six elements' and I really enjoyed the whole thing, especially the cascading piano drones (?!) on the fifth track ('sliding fifths').
Any other recommendations?
-- Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:38 AM (5 years ago)

^^^^^^^^

― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 03:47 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

Tired of everything, looking for something different. Downloaded Four Manifestations and Strumming--very nice.

― clemenza, Sunday, 2 February 2014 15:12 (twelve years ago)

(It was a link from Ward Fowler on a movie thread that led me to them--had never heard of him until yesterday.)

― clemenza, Sunday, 2 February 2014 15:15 (twelve years ago)

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